What do you all think of the New York Times Book Review

Bourgeois middlebrow shit for upper middle classmen who want to roleplay that they're still in college and anyone gives a fuck that they have a critical opinion on shitty contemporary non-books like Jonathan Franzen's "The Corrections" while they waste their lives crunching numbers and sucking cocks for the machine

>>8917915
fp=bp

prefer london review of books

>>8917906

Wow, only one book by a white male! How diverse and progressive.

It focuses too heavily on forgettable tripe, books which are popular for the wrong reasons and which have nothing to really offer. It's the perfect guide for a complacent pseud living in the bicoastal cities.

>>8917906
>Colson Whitehead
Trash

>>8917948
Your insecurity is showing.

>>8918224
Of course he's insecure, the white male demographic is being actively persecuted and suppressed by the media-academic complex. Things are the opposite of stable and certain for white men; if you are a white man and you are not insecure then you are either stupid, blind, or both.

>>8918236
How very 2016 of you but if you don't recall that sentiment started to collapse with Brexit and finally died with Hillary.

>>8918243
>because the media-academic complex is incredibly incompetent and catastrophically failed to achieve its political aims, it is therefore no longer persecuting and suppressing white men
Doesn't follow, champ

>>8918264
So it's incompetently persecuting and suppressing white men? Doesn't sound like something to feel insecure about.

I think maybe the reason white men aren't getting published is because they, like you, believe that they know a lot more than they actually do.

>>8918277
>I think maybe the reason white men aren't getting published is because they, like you, believe that they know a lot more than they actually do.
No group on earth has the artistic pedigree of white men. Literature is tyrannized by these coastal degenerates and it's no coincidence that the entire field as an artistic medium plummeted into the fucking gutter as soon as women started to compose the majority of those employed in publishing houses/literary agencies. It would not surprise me if more than 95% of these literary gatekeepers voted for Hillary Clinton. Fucking Blood Meridian with its hypermasculinity and problematic depictions of non-whites wouldn't be picked up by these gutless, testosterone-deprived, cosmopolitans if Cormac McCarthy was some no-name trying to get it published today.

I look at the horse shit winning awards today and there are unedited trainwrecks in critique threads on /lit/ with greater demonstrations of artistry.

>>8918243
>blaming Brexit and Hillary on white men

You are a despicable racist.

>>8918333
This.

>>8918333
I for one will never get tired of these posts. Meme on, friends, meme on.

>It would not surprise me if more than 95% of these literary gatekeepers voted for Hillary Clinton.
Dude, it wouldn't surprise me if it was 100%. Sometimes an agent will have a link to her twitter account on the agency website and I'll click it just out of curiosity: it's always wall to wall anti-Trump invective. I attended a seminar with an agent about how to get published and he cracked jokes about Trump in front of the whole class.It's not just about them being wrong -- don't they realize how unprofessional that is? I guess they just assume that anyone soliciting them will agree 100% with all their political views. Just goes to show you what a bubble they live in.

The greatest outpost of provincialism in New York.

>>8918333
>No group on earth has the artistic pedigree of white men.

This is exactly the problem I'm talking about. Perhaps white men try entering onto the literary scene by the pedigree of their race and gender alone, rather than any demonstration of individual talent. I would honestly get tired of people who try to fly by the retired myth of the hero artist and instead elect to publish those who are dedicated in their approach to writing and who are willing to actually do the work (that would fall on anyone not white or male since they feel they have something to prove). 99% of the 'geniuses' on this board can't write at all; they just want to be writers to flatter their yet-unchallenged egotism.

>Corncob Tortillas YeCarthy

>>8918675
>Perhaps white men try entering onto the literary scene by the pedigree of their race and gender alone
These are non-words signifying nothing.
>rather than any demonstration of individual talent
Talent means nothing when you consider the shit winning awards, earning the big deals, and making "Best of 2016" lists. The literati neither want nor recognize talent.
>I would honestly get tired of people who try to fly by the retired myth of the hero artist
More non-words.
>and instead elect to publish those who are dedicated in their approach to writing and who are willing to actually do the work
What work? They kvetch about whitey for 300 pages in dull, artless prose and wait to collect their Pulitzer.

>>8918333
Let's look at the NY Times bestseller list to see just how truly oppressed white writers are.

>http://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/?_r=0

>John Grisham
>W. Bruce Cameron
>James Patterson
>Nicholas Sparks
>David Baldacci
>Fucking Bill O'Reilly and Martin Dugard
>Bruce Springsteen
>J. D. Vance
>Michael Lewis
>Ron Chernow
>Brian Kilmeade and Don Yaeger
>Daniel James Brown

In fact it's easier to list authors here who aren't white or male.

So who is living in a bubble? I think you forget just how 'normal' Middle America actually is.

Identity politics really ruined this site, huh?

>>8918689
>These are non-words signifying nothing.

Perhaps you should learn how to read then. Maybe you'll become a better writer and you can get published!

>>8918710
It's invaded a lot of the net lately.

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>>8917906
>reading the New York Times

>>8918702
>Let's look at the NY Times bestseller list to see just how truly oppressed white writers are
None of those people are writers. They're either brands or celebrities. We're discussing literature.

>>8918728
I hope at least you were convinced by this argument.

>>8918721
t. redditor

>>8918710
Identity politics are and always have been present in every political stance whether you wore blinders or not.

>>8918732
It's not an argument. It's pointing to non-authors writing non-literature and thinking this makes some statement.

>>8918753
>The media-academic complex punishes white men
>Celebrities and brands aren't the media!

No you're right. You can leave the thread now.

>>8918752
Do you think threads like these accomplish anything?

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>>8918774
tfw white men still make it to the top despite discrimination :^)

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>>8918774
>>8918790
You guys are deliberately misinterpreting his post. It's extremely difficult for white men to be published if they aren't already celebrates and don't pander

>>8918790
In the 18th century the French believed their population was shrinking despite that not being the case.

>>8918792
It's not like the women and minority writers aren't pandering either. White men aren't exceptional.

>>8918805
>White men aren't exceptional.
But they are. I truly think that we'd have a literary renaissance if affirmative action was removed and there were more literary agents that actually gave a fuck about literature. Most women and nonwhites can only write about sexism and racism.

>>8918810
>Most women and nonwhites can only write about sexism and racism.

No, like I said, they're pandering. They won't get awards if they don't write about these subjects, but there are definitely women and minority writers who write about other things.

>we'd have a literary renaissance if affirmative action was removed

Even if this was affirmative action at work,I doubt it. The general consumer isn't well-versed in literature and judging from the quality of writing and reading comprehension in /lit/, neither are those who consider themselves 'literary-minded'.

"We'd be great if it wasn't for x" is what garbage thinkers say. The real world is far more complex.

>>8917915
me irl

>>8918776
They sometimes help radicalize white men to support their own self-interest