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How do I write female characters?
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>>8915624
By writing me all up in that ass.
(real answer: write a character before you consider its sex)
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>>8915624
Firstly you think of a manthen you give him a woman's name
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>>8915624
>it's another thinly veiled /pol9k/ thread
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Shakespeare Reading Group Week One: Hamlet, Prince of Denmark 2017-01-02 01:42:06 Post No.8914519
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Shakespeare Reading Group Week One: Hamlet, Prince of Denmark
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Since there was some expressed interest in a Shakespeare reading group, I think that it would be good to organize into one thread.
For each week, we will read one of Shakespeare's plays, starting with the tragedies, then the comedies, then romances, then his histories. A week may seem like a long time, but these threads are for discussion as well as reading, and some among us have not read The Bard's work. If you have already read the week's play, feel free to discuss it with others.
This week's play is his most famous and most beloved, Hamlet, Prince of Denmark. Next week will be Macbeth. Feel free to leave suggestions, post discussion, discuss commentaries, talk about Elizabethan England, post and discuss performances, and generally participate in discussions about The Bard's works.
Also, feel free to discuss sonnets and poetry from the man himself.
>Complete Works of William Shakespeare: http://shakespeare.mit.edu/
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Lit is rejuvenated. Thank god.
I just finished Hamlet today, actually. I found it sort of interesting how the very first line was "Who's there?" simply because it serves as the basis of meaning through the entire play.
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>>8914541
>Lit is rejuvenated
2017 year of the reading groups?
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>>8914543
let's hope. I think they'll offer actual discussion and discourage memes. This board kinda needed something like these.
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ITT: Your Mom's favorite book
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this is very mom-tier but also god-tier desu
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>>8913457
My diary, desu
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for example:
How well acquainted should I be with Nietzsche's work and philosophy before I watch The Turin Horse, if at all (some reviewers have said it does address Nietzschean concepts) ?
and, I guess, what are you thoughts are about intertextuality in film, in particular references to works of literature (this being /lit/, ofc)?
another example:
the opening credits to Pasolini's Salo includes a bibliography and suggest reading list
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Everyone on this board seems to think they need to read the western canon before they can so much eat a sandwich
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>>8906492
honestly i've found it easier to use film as an introduction to literature/philosophy. supplementary materials that allow you to visualize ideas sometimes will allow the language to manifest itself more clearly earlier on.
for example, terrence malick's films really allowed me to get into heidegger
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>>8906754
And they're correct
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what type of journal are you writing in daily, anon?
w2c rad /lit/ approved journals
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>>8906302
I'm that grown ass dude browsing Walmart's back to school sale elbowing kids and parents out of my way so I can horde up on all the notebooks with the neato cover designs.
I bought $30 worth of composition books I'm never going to use because I only write on perforated paper I can tear out neatly without ripping my whole goddamn life in half.
When it comes to serious writing I use legal pads.
I used to use moleskines but stopped as I took writing more seriously because they're too expensive and I just need paper. 95% of what I write ends up in a trash can anyways.
If you're just journaling I guess they're fine
Try rhodia
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I use the A4 Ryman one that is basically a clone of the moleskine one for half the price
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I use any fucking lined notepad, because there is this cool technology called computers that enable you to organise much more efficiently and neatly your writings. However, purists (impressionable young men) like the tradition of paper because they think it categorises them with writers of the past.
Hence why Moleskines are popular: young impressionable pseuds liken them to Hemingway and the like, giving their fantasy of a man of letters a $30 false authenticity.
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How can Western philosophy expect to compete with Buddhism?
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buddhism is lame (there is no self) lol what a load of bs theres definitely a me if i pinch myself i feel pain, thats me, my body, my brain
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>>8922506
How can Buddhism possibly compete with Capitalism?
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>>8922528
ignorant
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Has a book ever made you cry /lit/? This is an anonymous board and a bully free zone, so speak up. For me it wasAlyosha's speech to the kids at the end of Brothers Karamazov
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Yes.
I was a Flower of the mountain yes when I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls used or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes.
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>>8921997
When Skylark cries herself to sleep because she's ugly and always will be and no one will ever love her and this is the life she has to live forever
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ITT: women
Did Stirner have a reason to live? Why didn't he kill himself?
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post your feet my sweet female phoneposter
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>>8921927
>reason to live
spooky
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>>8921936
>reddit spacing
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>Lily, the caretaker's daughter, was literally run off her feet.
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>>8921822
Joyce wrote his stories in a style that imitates the attitudes/mental states of the characters within them.
Lilly is a frivolous girl who isn't educated enough to know the proper use of literally.
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>>8921832
>trying to educate the frogmen
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>>8921832
authors have literally been using the word literally in a non-literal way since the word was invented
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Are the works in pic related, in its phenomenal systematic unity, the best to ever come forth from a humand mind? Is there anything even remotely close? If so: could you sell me on it?
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They would be the pinnacle if they were better written and organized, and if they didn't depend on the context of the modern philosophy debate going on at that time. Kant's project appears somewhat universal from an outside-in perspective, but it's really mired in the conversations of the day. Don't read all of it unless you know the history of philosophy, as well as the history of math and science.
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>>8921497
>phenomenal systematic unity
The work is a slave to its systematicity and shouldn't be glorified because of it. You can see this in the content pages and how Kant struggles to organise the Critique of Judgement within its confines.
An absolutely admirable effort but the disparate strands don't come together properly even under Kant's impressive reasoning.
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>>8921497
>phenomenal systematic unity
dante
joyce
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I lost 500GB worth of audio books (and radio plays). Some that i'll never be able to find again.
In salute, post a cap of your audio book folder.
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>>8921089
All Sam Harris, only Sam Harris. And one Norm MacDonald.
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>>8921089
How?
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>>8921089
pleb
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https://twitter.com/kantbot2000/status/815771074721959936
People often ask me to recommend books or tell them how to 'get into' reading. Tbh it's really hard work, in a way people underestimate. You have to read for knowledge and not enjoyment, which is a difficult thing to do. You have to read with goals. You need to focus on specific topics and resolve to read everything, even if its not good or not even in the first rank of significance. You need to plan your reading strategically to fill gaps and bridge topics, and you have to use bibliographies. You also have to read everyday and you cant draw books out for months, you have to get through things more quickly. Also there wont be short term gains, you may have to read for a year or two before you can really feel yourself developing critical sense. Saying all that however Id recommend starting with a broad base of shorter novels to just expose yourself.
Jaques the Fatalist
Rasselas
Vicar of Wakefield
Daphnis and Chloe
Cervantes' Exemplary Stories
Tales of Hoffmann
A Tale of a Tub
Eventually youll start to develop interests of your own and you can choose things you want to focus in on. My main interest is theory of the novel, desu, Im mainly interested in narratives, and how we use them to conceptualize our lives. This has drawn me into philosophy and aesthetics and into history as I try to understand different novels from every possible angle. Completeness is the thing I aim for most, you want to use all tools at your disposal, you need to develop a complete picture. Think of your synthetic understanding of a body of knowledge as a painting you are creating before your minds eye. Each book you read is a brushstroke, you create your understanding artistically as something you represent to yourself. Whenever you finish a book spend time reflecting on how it fits in to what you already know and then ask what your painting is missing. This is pretty sober and common sensical advice, but people ask me all the time. I would just say be deliberate and methodical. There are more books than you can read in a lifetime, so you have try to be efficient and deliberate with your reading. You will eventually surprise yourself when you look back at how much you can accomplish, but you cant dick around too much. The more I read the more I realize I still need to read, its a never ending process and you have to find your own motivation. No 1 book will ever give you a complete picture, understanding is referential, the more references you have the more judgments you can make.
What do you think, /lit/?
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>>8920759
I love you Kantbot.
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>>8920759
>You have to read for knowledge and not enjoyment, which is a difficult thing to do
I kind of disagree with this. I started reading for enjoyment, now I do it for "knowledge," or because I like exposing myself to different ideas and learning new things.
>You have to read with goals.
If you read for knowledge, sure. These goals can (I would argue should) be elastic, or dynamic if you prefer.
I haven't read anything on his reading list but I don't read much fiction honestly, so I can't speak to that. But I largely agree with everything else he's said.
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> You have to read for knowledge and not enjoyment
lol why can't you do both. this is some undialectical advice
Opinions on this novel?
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It's OK pretty overrated
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Pretty Faustian desu
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>>8920733
>novel
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Which writers are you aware of whose work(s) became popular only after their author had deceased?
I myself intend to finish writing my debut memoir by the end of this calendar year, and for the sake of literary authenticity I intend also to end my life once it is ready for publication. I have researched the various awards available in my country for literary autobiographies, debut books, awards for writers under 30, and so forth, and so hopefully my mother will receive any prize money awarded for my work after my death. It is clear that no publishing house is willing to publish a debut over three-thousand words in length, and I am forced therefore to rely on the possibility that my genius will be appreciated after I have ceased to exist.
So far I can think of:
>Fernando Pessoa (Book of Disquiet)
>Anne Frank (Diary of a Young Girl)
>Henry Darger (The Story of the Vivian Girls)
>David Foster Wallace (Pale King; although he was already well-known)
>Kafka (The Trial, etc)
>Emily Dickinson (collected poems)
>Sylvia Plath (Bell Jar)
Any others?
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>>8920670
*three-thousand pages
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>>8920670
Post an excerpt. Most of those peeps were successful in their lifetimes too.
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>>8920686
Anne Frank wasn't, nor was Henry Darger, Pessoa lived a life of relative obscurity despite publishing a bunch of poems (often under heteronyms however), Kafka had published short stories but nothing much besides, Dickinson was a reclusive NEET with no published work to her name. Granted Wallace and Plath were already popular.
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>try to read 'genre fiction'
>the seed of hating anything non-canon that /lit/ planted in my mind gnaws away at my mind
>stop reading book
>try to read something from the 'canon'
>it's boring as shit and i feel like a pseud for reading it
>put it down
such is life
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>>8920649
Be more aware of your desire for validation and try not to engage with it.
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>try to read genre fiction because I want to relax and have some fun
>the book is written so badly it's legit painful to read and is actually quite boring
>tfw Moby Dick, experimental european movies and ancient greek tragedies are my entertainment now
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>>8921124
>ancient greek tragedies
I'm about to start with Euripides, do you have any suggestions to read before I start?