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>tfw europoor
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>>34555076
should I use a stick to defend myself or is CS gas effective at close range?
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Spraying him with your gay ass garlic spray will only enlarge mutumbo's rage.
You need to whether crush his skull with your fairy stick or get a proper gun.
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>>34555076
>not buying a Zoraki R1 or R2

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I have been arguing with a friend about 9mm vs 45mm. He says that the 9mm would be superior for CCing due to higher capacity than 45mm. He also claimed that most 9mms are lighter weight than a 45mm. I pointed out that 45mm has far superior terminal ballistics and is likely to shred what it hits into tiny pieces from the fragmentation. His rebuttal was that the FBI had proven that all handgun cartridges have similar performance and that capacity and shot placement are more important.

Which of us is correct?

No one could survive being hit by a 45mm could they?
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>>34554773
are you implying that somebody can CC an auto-cannon shooting 45mm?
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>>34554794

Shall not be infringed motherfucker.
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>>34554773
9mm is fine for personal defence/cc. fix your short man syndrome, and get over the "but muh 45 is stronger" meme

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My noguns/antiguns friends recently found out that I carry a CCW. It led to a discussion of them wanting to know how I would handle various situations where a ccw would come in handy. In most general one-on-one self defense situations they agreed with me but they hated my answers for anything that involved being in a group or public area with many people.

For instance:
>Them: Hey anon, what would you do if someone walked in to a packed movie theater or super market and started threatening everyone?
>Me: I would try to sneak away to an area out of sight/ear shot and call the police. Other people are not my concern and I would be held liable for any potential collateral damage if I intervened.
>Them: What's the point of carrying a gun if you aren't at least going to try to save people?

Anyway it got me thinking, do we as good Samaritan gun owners have an obligation to be a hero in that kind of situation.
Personally I think no. I think intervening while out in the open may end up being as bad as suicide.
What say you /k/?
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Nearly everyone can get a CCW. Fuck'em if they don't.

You
Family
Friends
Everyone else

That order for defense.
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>>34554548
No, you don't have a ccw to play hero. Is threatening language deadly force? No it is not. Is a drunk about your size punching you deadly force? No it is not either. Either you walk away and tell the cops or you deck the fucker and then walk away and call the cops. There is a retarded meme u hear that if you are defending yourself but you don't use your gun you weren't really threatened so always draw on attacker and blast away and make sure they die. This is untrue. In fact it's the opposite of true in most states, and I think it comes from how shooting to wound or warning shots will put you in deep shit. Stand your ground laws are different but if you go into this with that hero mentality and don use non lethal force on nonlethal threats, welcome to a world of shit where you'll ruin your life in a court battle whether you did anything wrong or not. See George zimmerman
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>>34554548
>do we as good Samaritan gun owners have an obligation to be a hero in that kind of situation
legally, absolutely not

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You're walking on the sidewalk when you see a man charging at you with a big knife. What handgun would you want in your holster?
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>>34554478
one that goes "bang"
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>>34554497
Fpbp
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>>34554478
the on that is ALWAYS in my holster. Glock 22.

What if nukes had never been invented. Say they never exist at all.

What would have happened after 1945?
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Hand to hand fighting in Japan until 1948.
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>>34554223
Well, the Pacific Theater of WW2 would have lasted longer, with either the US winning with a lot of casualties or the Soviets joining in and ending up taking half of Japan with the other half taken by the US. The Cold War might have actually gone hot, with a Third World War.
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>>34554255
>The Cold War might have actually gone hot, with a Third World War.
now would it really be considered a third, or would the phase of ww2 just turn from allies vs. axis to west vs. ussr?

I don't have a full power bolt action rifle that I can put a scope on currently, so I am thinking about getting one in the near future. I was looking for something I could use for hunting/long range stuff, probably .308, but since I am going to need to take up reloading sooner or later, could go 6.5 creed.

Want to keep it under $500, less would be preferable but I don't want a $200 nigger tier savage axis either.

Whittaker has had $300 Howa 1500 lightning's on special recently in 6.5mememore.

The howa 1500's is essentially the same as the
weatherby vanguard besides different cosmetic things. There are bottom metal conversion pieces (ironically polymer) for $50ish and allow it to take 10 round magazines that are fairly reasonable at $40ish each.

Not too sure what the difference between a standard 1500 vs the 1500 lightning, I think it has a different stock, not sure of what else

>best girl to attract attention.
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>>34554076
Mosin Nagant or Springfield M1903.
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>>34554154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGwh9NUaNI
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>>34554076
Look for a lightly used Tikka at that price maybe. They're the hot thing right now. Available in 6.5x55 too so you don't have to get the mememore.

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I have a buddy who has been saying for years that when you get buy a transferable machine gun you waiver you right to the fourth admendment.

He says when you fill out the paper work and get a full auto the goverment can then walk into your house anytime they want and search it.

is that true?
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>>34554070
if only there were a powerful tool by the name of google that would allow you to find the answers you seek, instead of asking to be spoonfed like the brainless retard that you are.
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>>34554132
I tried and realize that people only talk about cost and paper work.

I figured people may leave that bit out so it wouldnt look bad.
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>>34554070
>anytime they want

nope

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How many people have you introduced to shooting, /k/?
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Over the past couple of months, I've taken about five complete newbies to the range... Mostly attractive dames.
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>>34553512
>vfg
>holding the magwell
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>>34553525
Shes got a weird scarf mang

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Has anyone else seen this movie? What did you think? Do you think it would have been possible for apes to hold out against humans so long? Do you think there is any possibility that any humans could have survived the virus and still be holding out against the apes?
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>>34553487
It sounds like a boring CGI shit fest, who gives a shit. Start a discussion about a decent movie at least.
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I would have scavenged nuclear weapons and nuked the apes.

>muh triggers, you can't do that.

you could take apart a few bombs and reassemble the material into a crude gun type bomb.

why do post apocalypse movies always ignore the fact that petrol and diesel go bad after a year or two? at least Mad Max movies have people still making fuel. almost everyone else has them just finding fuel that is many years old and just driving away.
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>this shitty franchise is still alive
Fucking unbelievable.

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>when you don't understand a word of french but you are Ouiaboo

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qFAWsqdP14
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I could teach French to Ian. Get me an American visa so I can leave this shithole.
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>>34553318
> tfw french is my mothertongue
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Canaple is a master gunsmith from back in the days when France had decent gun laws.

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>The question is not whether Tomahawk cruise missiles are useful but whether their usefulness is sufficient to justify the expenditure of ship’s volume, the concomitant increase in cost and the resulting decrease in number of submarines built? The volume and money dedicated to a submarine cruise missile capability could go to other ship’s functions and to building more subs. In other words, there is an opportunity cost associated with submarine launched cruise missiles.

>Tomahawk missiles add size and cost to submarines. The size increase is 20% or so, depending on the specific sub class and version. The cost increase is harder to determine but one solid data point is the Virginia Payload Module (VPM) scheduled to be installed on the newest Virginias. The cost increase is estimated to be around $500M which is a 20% increase over the base cost of around $2.5B. By leaving out the VPM, we could build one extra Virginia class sub for every five subs built. Are the added Tomahawks worth losing one extra sub for every five built? To answer that, we need to recall the submarine’s mission(s).

>In war, a submarine’s most important mission is anti-submarine warfare according to US Navy doctrine since the Cold War – I’m talking about attack subs, SSN’s, not ballistic missile submarines. The main job of our submarines is to eliminate the enemy’s submarines. A close second mission, but still second, is anti-surface warfare. Every mission after that is extraneous, in a sense. If, by eliminating all the other missions – Tomahawk capability, in this case – we could build an extra submarine for every five we now build, would this be worth the loss of 12-40 Tomahawks (we’re talking about Virginia class subs, now)? I suggest it would be and would be well worth it.


http://navy-matters.blogspot.com/2017/07/does-every-sub-need-tomahawks.html
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Except the Virginia Payload Module is being used to withdraw the Ohio SSGNs without a like-for-like replacement. In this sense, the USN is taking their existing capability (large SLCM volley fire) and distributing it over their SSN fleet rather than concentrating it in a few SSGNs. Previous Virginia class subs only had a few VLS
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>>34553422

The author is arguing that attack submarines shouldn't have any VLS.
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>>34553245

Doesn't the Tomahawk have an AShM capability?

Even without that possibility, hitting coastal radar / enemy AShM / targets of opportunity up to several hundred miles inland is a good capability to have on any boat

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how would /k/ improve the killdozer?
current specs
armor: 30cm/1foot thick steel plates and concrete composite
visibility: video cameras protecters by 76mm/3 inch of bullet resistant plastic hooked up to monitors inside so that there are no gaps in the armor
arms: gun ports fitted with a 13mm/0.5 thick steel plate .50 caliber sniper rifle, a .308 semi-automatic, and a .22 long rifle
misc: aircon and fan because the things a fucking oven on tracks
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>>34552566
Easy. Trade it for a semi. Wait for Christmas, "European" it into a busy market.
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>>34552610
Jamal...
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>>34552615
>2017
>still believes the liberal argument that guns are the dealiest tools for mass casualty

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What the fuck is with edgy teenagers, hicks, and tryhards' spergboner for the Punisher logo within the past few years? Is it the new moldy labia?
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>>34551660
Idk I just like the comics. I don't put that shit on my guns.
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>>34551660
TELL ME ABOUT PUNISHER
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The only way for normies to wear an edgy skull T-Shirt without looking like a psychopath or a Waffen-SS member.

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Name a pistol objectively better than the 1911. You can't.
>muh capacity
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of a pistol. A pistol is a conceptually defensive weapon. It's not meant as a substitute for a rifle for storming buildings. It's meant to repel a close range ambush. If you have more than 7 rounds, you reach a point of diminishing marginal returns. Having a pistol with 15 rounds in its butt is like having a car with a 50 gallon gas tank.
>fudd
A fudd is someone who is opposed to using guns for fighting. Fudds therefore hate all pistols.
>outdated
Appeal to novelty fallacy. Newer is not necessarily better.
>I don't like the safety
So leave the safety off if it bothers you so much.
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Taurus PT92
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>>34551243
Practically any other gun that follows the same concept except has a double action trigger.
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>>34551274
>not having a double stack 1911
Stay pleb

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/k/ books? What are some good recommendations, any and all subjects
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Here ya go: http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/42507.Lt_Gen_James_Mattis_Professional_Reading

The Rommel Papers is pretty good so far. I'll also recommend The Silent War and Dereliction of Duty.
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>>34550861
The forgotten soldier by Guy Sajer is pretty good.
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>>34550861
The M-1 Garand Rifle by Bruce N. Canfield
AK-47: The Grim Reaper 2nd Edition by Frank Iannamico
The World's Assault Rifles by Gary Paul Johnson and Thomas B. Nelson
Mauser Bolt Rifles by Ludwig Olson
Hatcher's Notebook by Major General Julian S. Hatcher
Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders by P.O. Ackley
(got a few more but those are the ones I possess currently in my library)

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