9mm vs 45mm

>>34554773
are you implying that somebody can CC an auto-cannon shooting 45mm?

>>34554794

Shall not be infringed motherfucker.

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>>34554773
9mm is fine for personal defence/cc. fix your short man syndrome, and get over the "but muh 45 is stronger" meme

>>34554857

45mm Muzzle Energy:

412984J

9mm Muzzle Energy:

610J

This isn't even a comparison.

How can 9mmfags even compete?

>>34554857
45mm is objectively superior. Quit being a retard.

Your friend is correct. Considering shot placement is the most important factor, magazine capacity and speed of accurate follow-up shots would be the 2nd most important factors.

>>34554917
See

>>34554902

>45mm
wait
is this a mistake
or bants?

>>34554857
That particular wickd maymay is about .45 ACP, not 45mm newfriend.

45mm absolutely blows 9mm out of the water, and that's not even considering that it's large enough to carry an effective explosive payload.

>>34554917

>worrying about shot placement with 45mm

>>34554951

>not owning a 45mm

>>34554773
9mm=less powee more rounds
45=more power less rounds

>>34554996

That doesn't matter when 1 45mm is worth an entire magazine of 9mm

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>be anon
>inna convenience store
>hear faint "ayo hol up" in the distance
>pack of fine young African american honor students on their way home from church enter the establishment and begin to wave around hi points and drink kool aid
>anon begins to assemble his trusty 45mm m1937, the parts of which hes kept between his fat rolls, braided into his neckbeard, and in the Mall Ninja™ brand plate carrier vest
>dindus are now culturally enriching the shopkeepers asshole
>anon finally pulls out the single shell of 45 mm that he's kept keistered
>loads and fires while the melanin enriched gentlemen are busy peacefully protesting
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>dindu parts on the ceiling and across the street
>9mm fags eternally btfo

>>34555048
A well placed 9mm can do the job anon

>>34555101

A 45mm round is going to fuck up as long as it hits you anywhere anon.

>>34554773
>FBI had proven that all handgun cartridges have similar performance and that capacity and shot placement are more important.
Yet they tried to push the new 40mm caliber...
But then you have to admit that the swedish Bofors is pretty dope and everyone went on to use it so... Main problem about the bofors gun is finding a good holster really, CCing can be a real pain.

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>>34555116
Good for you anon

>>34555118

That 40x46mm round is pretty sweet though. Don't know why the FBI didn't go with it instead. I carry one and it's great.

>>34554773
>FBI
Its also full of women and faggots so they had to issue something those cunts could use in the event they stumbled into the field.

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more rounds does not make you accurate.

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>>34554794
>>34554811

I made this for later.

The FBI didn't even test 45mm. You're right here.
CCing a DD might be weird though, especially if you end up using it.

>>34555118
>CCing can be a real pain.
Fucking manlets. I bet you aren't even 6 yards tall.

>>34555118
>CCing can be a real pain.
>He doesn't OC a Bofors
Laughingwhores.jpg

>>34554773
Neither of you is correct because both of you are autistic enough to have this conversation.

>>34555161
Always find it funny how people talk about the FBI like they're some kind of scientific authority when they've been known to push bunk science to further their own agenda(putting people in jail) on several occasions.

Remember hair type analysis, bullet metallurgy matching, lie detectors, and bit mark analysis? all more myth than reality.

>>34555161
Doesn't really matter when you see that they didn't even bother taking the bigger guns they could have against people like Matix and Platt...

>>34555364

But Maury shows lie detectors work. Why would Maury lie?

>>34555511
>lie detectors work
Lie detectors work on people who believe lie detectors work and are afraid of the consequences. There have been documented cases of innocent guys being so afraid of the thing plain truth was recognized as a lie, and psychopaths getting away with lying because they just didn't care.

9mm is a women's caliber

>>34554773
>I pointed out that 45mm has far superior terminal ballistics
Literally all scientific evidence available disagrees with you. There is exactly ZERO evidence showing any difference in lethality between 9, 40, and 45. If you disagree, provide evidence to support your conclusion, and talk about all the ballistic research done showing the opposite to be true.

>>34556966

>41,000J of kinetic energy won't do more damage than 610J

spotted the retard

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>tfw 1/2 the thread got baited so hard into a caliber fight they didn't even bother reading the bait

yah that sums up /k/ pretty well

>>34556966

You dumb son of a bitch a 45mm would take your head clean off.

>>34554773

Both are shit.

Stop being a limpwristed pussy and get a 10mm Auto or bigger. It's not that much recoil.

>>34557247

10mm isn't bigger than 45 you stupid fudd.

>>34557247
10mm is shit though.
Six inches of .44 magnum is about where handguns stop being garbage, if you want a snub you better get a .454 casull.

>>34557247
>10mm
>larger than 45mm
Look at this newfag

>>34556993
>lol ur dumb
Again, there is no scientific evidence -- ever -- demonstrating than .45 is more lethal than 9mm.

Both rounds have plenty of energy to go clean through a target if you're using quality carry ammo. How much energy they have while doing it makes exactly zero difference.

>>34557607
That's literally impossible.
It just makes an insignificant difference.

>>34557263
>>34557511

It's the energy we're talking about.

>>34557495

It'd be preferrable if it worked on an autoloader.

>>34557607

No one is talking about .45 acp you blithering retard.

This thread is about 45mm.

45 acp is 11mm.

best to find a revolver because who wants to mess with clips and all that shit.

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>all the retards talking about .45 acp in a thread that isn't about .45 acp at all.

How do you mongoloids even manage to operate a computer?

I've been CC'ing my grandfathers trusty 20mm Oerlikon for a while but I'm thinking of upgrading to either a 40 or 45mm.

Anyone got hands on experience with either?

>>34558630

You might need to wear heavier clothing otherwise you will print with the larger 40mm bofors.

45mm is clearly superior, shot placement doesn't even matter when you can load airburst rounds and just shoot in the general direction of the bad guy

>>34554773
>far superior terminal ballistics

I know I'm not carrying the 9mm if I get jumped in an alleyway by some Gook artillery, but the 9mm is plenty if you run into a normal squad of African child soldiers.

>>34554811
Second post best post

>>34558630
>40mm : 4 round CLIP
>20mm : 60 round drum

You've already got a better carry piece.

What are you gonna do have a friend carry spare clips of ammo for you every time you go out?

>>34554773
>be me, proud american
>sitting home one day
>opening cans of spaghet-o with 9mm cause is such weak baby round for killing
>suddenly hear Canadians at my door attempting to "enrich" me of my goods and valuables
>jump up spilling spent casings and generic pseudo pasta all over my framed picture of Mr Heston.
>get in cart and roll my colt Freedom Lancer 45mm to the door
>one of the Canadians freeze in fear
>fire off a single shot, blowing out all the windows of my trailer and also my eardrums and asshole
>Canadian one is but a pair of shins and number two is looking like he's just seen 10 years of hard war
>begin yelling "THIS IS FOR YOU BEN HUR"
>fire again, killing the second intruder and also the cat after the shell violent ejects and crushes him
>shed a tear as I tell him sweet nothings involving freedom

>>34557193
It'll take the head clean off the whole neighborhood

>>34558630

Upgrade to a modern 20mm gun. I CC an XM25. Works great.

>>34557247
Im sure it leaves plenty of room in your purse

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45mm? Holy shit dicks where can I find one of those?
>Be chillin at the house
>hear a crash
>ohfuckrobbers.jpg
>whip out my 45mm handgun
>pray to Colt Koch
>Sneak downstairs
>see two motherfuckers carrying my tv
>not this time bitch
>I fire at one of them
>His chest explodes
>demolishes tv
>he goes down
>Other dude starts to run
>fire three shots rapidly
>first one knocks a whole in the wall the size of a baby
>second hits guys arm, it goes flying off with an arch of blood
>third hits his head, the bullet goes through, taking his head with it
>tears the top half of my front door completely off
>my arm is now broken in 8 places
>I can make my arm wiggle like a semi-flaccid dick
>Have to go to hospital
>have to get new tv
>have to get new wall
>have to get new door
>mfw it's all worth it

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>this whole thread.

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>>34559518
Came for this.

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>>34555095
Saved.

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>>34554773
>>34554996
>>34554951
>>34559518
>45mm

>>34555511
If you strapped someone in a chair and asked them if lie detectors work and they say no and the machine says it's true who do you believe

>>34557054
I'm amused that whoever made this took the time to animate the bolt moving but not empty casings.

>>34555206
No. But making 15 holes in someone is usually more effective than making 5.

>>34555101
So does a well placed 22

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>>34554773

>>34557636
Well guess what dumbass? It doesn't matter what you want. The laws of physics don't give a fuck about your anime fantasy where most handguns aren't utter shit.

>>34559025
Chuckled.

>>34554773
http://www.specops.pl/vortal/download/files/shooting_to_live.pdf

Book by Fairbairn and Sykes (yes, THE Fairbairn and Sykes), chapter: Stopping Power

tl;dr: nothing is really "better", but in doubt, choose high velocity over low velocity

>>34557636
>3.15lbs @ 2400 fps
>less energy than 180gr at 1400fps
You always been this retarded?

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Summer /k/ sure is something I tell ya...