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Are there still people within europe that practice authentic paganism so and if not which people were the last true pagans within europe ?
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"Paganism" was just a derogatory term for anyone who wasn't either Christian or Jewish. Technically Europe's currently being flooded with pagans from MENA
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>>1638708
No.

Plenty in Asia and Africa though. But most white pagans would be deeply disturbed by that because it's not some casual fun BS like what they practice
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>>1638708
I think Iceland still has some churches that have a continuous legacy with the old norse religion. Hellenists also exist and I think out of all the pre-christian faiths we have enough documentation of it to genuinely start it up again in the modern era. I don't know if they actually sacrifice at temples, probably not, but who knows.

I guess the last true pagans in Europe were the Baltics who were "converted" in some medieval crusade.

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What if this absolute madman wouldnt have died in 1800 due to illness?
Would he had brought the French Revolution to heel?
Could Napoleon even come close to him?
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>>1638699
the only Russian I respect
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>>1639728
>the only Russian I respect
Pick up a book, the greatest writer to ever live was a Russian.
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>>1639741

yes we must not forget pushkin.

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ITT: we make our pitch for Consul of the Roman Senate
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>>1638642
We're going to have YUGE legions, folks! Let me tell you, we've got the best legions, powerful legions. And they're going to make Rome great again.
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>>1638649
> we´ll build a wall and the picts will pay for it
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>>1638672

Im gonna bump this thread because i have to know

Why the fuck did Rome build a wall all the way over there but didn't do the same for the more difficult borders? Or at least to close off Italy?

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Let's talk heresy /his/.
Who are your favorite "Christian" heresiarchs + why?
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Marcion exposed churchfags for the power greedy plebs they were
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>heresiarchs
What's that? How is it different from heretic?
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Many people seem to assume that the Israelites began as nomads like the Bedouin, but doesn't the modest use of dairy in their foods (including numerous restrictions on when to eat it) combined with the heavy focus on agriculture in the Bible suggest otherwise?
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>>1638607

It's very likely they accumulated those taboos along the way.
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>>1638607

The opposite, in fact. Heavy discussion of dairy and meat implies that they were pastoral, wheras the much less treatment that cereals and vegetables get in the dietary laws implies that there wasn't as much contact.

Plus, think of your biblical stories. Cain and Abel right off the bat has the "Good shepherd, bad farmer", and almost all of the major Israelites who start from the bottom are shepherds at some point. Abraham has flocks, and his dispute with Lot over grazing is what leads him to kicking his nephew out. Jacob works as a shepherd for 20 years. Saul runs into Samuel while looking for some stray sheep, and David too, is the youngest in his family of shepherds.

They were almost certainly pastoral people who later came into contact with settled agricultural ones.
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>>1638607
>assume

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Do you feel like the Armenian/Greek/Assyrian genocide had an important impact on later genocides in the twentieth century? Do feel like calling in the first modern age genocide is giving it too much credit?
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>>1638523
What about the holocaust?
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>>1638608
I was thinking that too, but I'm under the impression people just say that because it's better known.
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>>1638523
Hitler was literally inspired by it when deciding to plan the genocide of Slavs.

>I have issued the command -- and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad -- that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formations in readiness -- for the present only in the East -- with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?

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>uther pendragon cucks one of his vasals
>in the story we are meant to root for the spawn of adultery
>later arthur gets cucked and this starts all the problems they have

Where the fuck is the logic in this ?
Why is adultery good in one insance and bad in another ?
Also isn't the story a christian story I don't get how it is acceptable.
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>>1638511
Merlin made Uther look like Gorlois, and Uther marries Ygraine afterwards besides, so it's all good.
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>>1638511
The author didn't subscribe to cuckoldry-based internet ideology, you're projecting it onto the text

>isn't it Christian
Sure, but it predates Puritanism by centuries. Medievals were pretty lewd
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>>1638516
I feel bad for gorlois he only tried to protect his wife.

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Educate me on the Hapsburg, /po----- I mean, /his/.
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>>1638458
>/po----- I mean, /his/.
What did mean by this?
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>>1638464

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZDaW3GLQw
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>>1638464
That turboautists aren't content to ruining one board, they have to ruin all of them.

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Which of the crusading orders was the strongest or most effective, I've heard the Knights of Rhodes/Malta did very well but did any of the other catholic orders have interesting events or huge contributions to history?
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>>1638225
The teutonic order carved out it's own little state in the baltics from pagan kingdoms, they were probably the most successful of all of them.
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>>1638283
the precursor to prussia, would you count them and the livonians as the same or different?
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>>1638225
Who has the biggest cock is always a difficult question to answer.

Unrelated, what amuses me is the people hating the French and worshiping the very French Templars and Hospitalers. Those two orders did impressive things and, some have argued, were the closest thing the crusaders had to a professionnal, highly trained and disciplined standing army (made of ze French cowards).

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WHY IS THERE NO /rel/ BOARD I'M SICK TO FUCKING DEATH OF SEEING /his/'S SCANT INTELLECTUAL CAPITAL BEING WASTED ON RELIGIOUS BAIT THREADS
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>>1638144
/x/ generally accepts religion threads that are not abrahamic, /his/ is pretty well suited for religions that are
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>>1638144
>& Humanities

I blame chinese moot for this
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>>1638144
What is really needed is /sht/ for 'shitposting battles between crusading catholics and Chicks Comics style protestants'.

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Would the US be more of a powerhouse in this day and age if they had never given control of it to the Panamanians?
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No. Things would be exactly the same.
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they gave it because they didn´t really need it anymore, having two independent navies
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>>1638448
Not just that, but the supercarriers are too big to go through the canal, so even if we owned it, we wouldn't get much military utility out of it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_RZJUAQY4
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>>1638139
This is even more wrong than the standard trolley problem. You don't even have the "needs of the many" argument on your side.
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>dudes are macking on your wife
>get out your bow and shoot them all

Even in Ancient Greece, wouldn't he have been arrested?
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>>1637866

By whom? Odysseus was king of Ithaca.
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>king of ithaca
>rest of ithaca dead at troy
>murdered everyone who would oppose him
who's doing the arresting?
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He was the King and the guys were creeping on his wife against her will and exploiting their guest right

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Did the Romans do more harm than good to the ancient known world?
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>>1637856
Yes, they should have killed all the Jews and given the Samaritans their land
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>>1637856
How can one little city state achieve this? This is so unreal.
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Definitely not
Unless you blame the empire for falling, which is kinda stupid

But to me their most important contribution is giving the West the Pax Romana to show them how an empire is supposed to be run in its middle stages, not to mention Diocletian and Theodosius saving the empire by dividing it, which may have prevented parts of Europe from being conquered before the Franks, Saxons, Visigoths and Poles got their shit together and created monarchies that could defend themselves.

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There seems to be a lot of confusion about what the term "Frank" means. This is becomes it has meant three different things at different times and places in history:

1. From the 3rd to the 6th century: originally the Franks were confederation of Germanic tribes and foederati of Rome, meaning they were allowed to settle in Roman Gaul in exchange for defending the empire when needed. The name comes either from a Germanic word for spear, or from the Latin word for free, or possibly a combination of both.
2. After the 6th century: in the late 5th and early 6th century the Franks conquered Gaul. But unlike other Germanic conquerors from the migration period, they converted to Catholicism, which made it possible for them to intermarry with the local Gallo-Romans. Within a few generations the Franks no longer existed as a Germanic tribe, but dissolved into the population of France, which was now collectively referred to as "Franks". They continued to be known as Franks until around the 12th century, when the more common term became "French".
3. After the 11th century in the East: Among Muslims and Greeks, "Frank" came to refer to all West Europeans. That's because the Crusaders in the first few Crusades were overwhelmingly French, and at the time still referred to as "Franks".

Now please stop getting into fruitless debates about what "the Franks" were or weren't when you're each talking about something completely different. Thank you for your attention.
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>>1637779
So it would be correct to say that the French are a Germanic people?
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>>1637822
Germanic is a language group. As they intermixed with the local population, the Germanic Franks naturally adopted the local languages, most of which were Romance languages.

Some French are Germanic, namely in Alsace and parts of Lorraine and French Flanders. However those Germanic languages are mostly extinct, and all French nowadays speak French which is the sole official language of the country, so no you'd have to say the French are a Romance speaking people.
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>>1637822
Germanics in Gaul/France were absorbed and assimilated by the Latin colonials and Romanized Gaulic/Celtic peoples.

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