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The Intercession of Saints: Convoluted Remants of Pagan Worship, Unnecessary 2016-09-03 00:59:43 Post No.1640310
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The Intercession of Saints: Convoluted Remants of Pagan Worship, Unnecessary
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2016-09-03 00:59:43
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The entire premise of asking for intercession from the saints or the Virgin is entirely non-sensical, and very much a remnant of pagan tendencies that were retained to make conversion to Christianity among the former pagans.
Firstly, why would one even bother to pray to anyone but God? Catholics and Orthodox say they don't directly pray to these beings: rather, they "lay down" their requests at their feet, so that they can then "take them" to God, in the manner humans lean on relations and intermediaries to relay requests to superiors. But if God is a perfectly just and 'good' being, why would he enable this kind of celestial nepotism? He does not sound very transcendent, if he operates identically to a human mafia boss, paying particular attention to those who are connected to his immediate underlings.
Furthermore, it is extremely convoluted to pray to the saints, when one could simply pray to God and avoid the middle-men entirely. Why pray to someone so they can pray for you when one can simply pray to the source to begin with?
t.former Catholic turned atheist.
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haha hes wearing a hat
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>>1640340
It's a very nice hat, though.
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>>1640340
>tfw no bara tiger husbando
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Tell me about this island, /his/ 2016-09-03 00:57:37 Post No.1640305
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Tell me about this island, /his/ 2016-09-03 00:57:37 Post No.1640305
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Tell me about this island, /his/
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I hear it's quite nice.
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Although I know little of its culture and history, I hear it'seems very peaceful and the crime rate is low.
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>>1640308
What even is Cyprus' history?
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>>1640311
Bronze age, it was Alashiya, the great kingdom who speak as equal to the Kings of Egypt, Syria, Babylon, they were seafarers who were the first to ventured west along to the Myceneans, great exporters of copper and their refined goods.
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What are some books that are about grand strategy?
I just finished Grand Strategy of the Byzantine Empire and I'm currently reading through Guns of August and I want more
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>>1640195
Why do you have -300 prestige?
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>>1640202
Dunno, I stole the picture from Google images.
My guess is the guy who took the screenshot converted to a Christian heresy resulting in a 500 prestige loss
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>>1640202
Married a plebeian most likely
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How do I deal with the fact that nothing is an objective "truth"? I understand that this is a very pleb-tier existential dilemma, but it's still one I suffer from. It's hard for me to think seriously about the world, and about history, when nothing feels totally true. When I read history books, for instance, I know that a lot of it is probably exagerrated, from second hand accounts, written for political reasons, etc. I feel like I would enjoy history a lot more if I just accepted what I read as being true, and didn't question every sentence for whether it was actually true.
And when it comes to modern science, I know that everything I observe is filtered through my perception, which is flawed and doesn't truly grasp "reality". So how do I deal with the fact that everything I observe, everything I read is probably not the capital T truth?
Is it necessary to sort of just "accept" that everything is mostly subjective truth, and try to live with it? I think this is why I like video games and fictional universes so much: the universe they put forth is objective, what you see is what you get.
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the only way out is to stop caring.
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>>1640099
Empirical data is the only determiner of real truth. Everything else is an approximation.
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>>1640099
>How do I deal with the fact that nothing is an objective "truth"? I
Well, you know this statement has to be proven. See the irony of it? If nothing can be empirically proven to be correct, neither can that statement.
You need to find yourself a philosophical ideal which can withstand a nihilistic gauntlet and let you live in the chaos.
Mines spiritual, essentially agnostic, we dunno, yet. Doesn't mean it won't be reveled to us at some stage, and if it is going to be revealed it means it does exist, so therefore it can be reasoned that we do have purpose, we just don't know it yet - if you want to believe that there is a reason.
I mean there is no evidence either way.
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Is the Bible really full of contradictions as atheists claim and corrupted as muslims claim?
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Yeah
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>>1639959
Care to explain? In the context of my next post.
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>>1639959
Anyone who thinks so is free to post their favorite one here.
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What was the relationship between the Soviets and the allies after WWII leading up to the cold-war?
I always found it strange that two nations who were extremely instrumental in ending a war together were fighting each other 2 years later. Were the dropping of the nukes used as a way to tame the soviets as the Americans could see what was coming?
pic semi-related.
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>>1639923
>implying the Cold War didn't begin in 1945
Nothing happened after the war, the alliance was one of convenience.
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>>1639923
Very very tense. Like immediately afterward. Operation unthinkable, look it up. I personally want an alternate history movie made about it.
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>>1639923
>Were the dropping of the nukes used as a way to tame the soviets as the Americans could see what was coming?
Yes. Japan was already ready to surrender before the nukes were dropped. Japan was trying to negotiate a peace thru the Soviet Union, thinking they would get the best deal with them. But the Soviets were refusing.
Dropping the nukes was mostly a show of force to the USSR.
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Why role models are bad for society. 2016-09-02 22:45:50 Post No.1639759
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Why role models are bad for society. 2016-09-02 22:45:50 Post No.1639759
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Why role models are bad for society.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS0XknCpRuo
A good video explaining why role models are bad for society and which borders on religion which both with cause society's downfall.
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>>1639759
Very good video definitely not some edgy kid parroting TJ Kirk.
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>>1639759
also he sure has some good insight. Changed my mind.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch9t-u6bvNE
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Was there ever a point in the history of the US where repatriating all blacks was a serious consideration? If so, what stopped it?
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>>1639722
>international homicide rate by nation
>splits up one singular country via race
>unbiased information
xD
So Blacks and hispanics are no longer Americans aye?
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>>1639730
I think the case is that European Union countries tend to be ethnically homogeneous, so it is an interesting comparison, especially with left wingers who think gun violence in the US is out of control, when it's really just blacks ruining it for everyone. Really makes you think
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>>1639722
>Was there ever a point in the history of the US where repatriating all blacks was a serious consideration?
No. There were people proposing it at various times, but never serious proposals.
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were the crusades justified?
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>>1639680
According to what? A modern judicial system?
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As justified as any war over land ownership
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>>1639680
The term "Crusade" is a broad term in and of itself, basically just refers to any war sparked by the Latin church. Some were justified, like reclaiming Christian land, others were not so justified, purging "pagans" and "heresy".
That's what I think anyways, it's 50/50 for me.
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Is religion really just a coping method for the abjectly poor and wretched? Or is it true what they say about rich men never entering the Kingdom of Heaven?
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>>1639589
>Is religion really just a coping method for the abjectly poor and wretched?
NO.
>Or is it true what they say about rich men never entering the Kingdom of Heaven?
NO.
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>>1639611
Calm down dude.
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>>1639611
/thread
Should I read both of these or Kershaws abridged version?
Or another Hitler biography entirely?
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>Should I read both of these or Kershaws abridged version?
NEITHER.
>Or another Hitler biography entirely?
ALL YOU NEED TO READ TO KNOW REGARDING ADOLF HITLER AS A PERSON IS:
— "THE YOUNG HITLER I KNEW" BY AUGUST KUBIZEK.
— "THE ENIGMA OF ADOLF HITLER" BY LÉON DEGRELLE.
— "THE LIGHTNING AND THE SUN" BY SAVITRI DEVI.
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>>1639552
Why not read Mein Kampf and get it from the horse's mouth.
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>>1639647
I did, but I'd like to hear about the later times in his life too
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Could we talk some about this place's history?
>Ancient Jews none really knows how come into excistance
>World's second first christian nation
>Launched successful invasion of Arabia just to kill Jews
>Muhammad's followers searched refugee there
>Proxy war between Portugal and Ottomans
>Pirates of the Somalian
Just to note, I don't think they are any better than Europeans and don't find racial statistics to be relevant in this topic at all which don't mean I deny their relevancy elsewhere.
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>>1639547
>we wuz kangz
>ethiopia/aksum/abyssina is a meme empire
>ethiopians are white
There, it's out of the way so lets have a non-shit thread for once.
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>>1639547
I think they had some relationship to Ancient Egypt which is why they referred to in the Bible and shit as Kush or whatever
That's all I know
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>>1639601
Suppose they got those things from Egypt as well.
Or maybe it's just an African thing.
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would the roman empire have been better or worse off if they remained mostly polytheistic?
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>>1639522
Do you mean if Christianity hadn't become its official state sanctioned religion or if Christianity had stayed small/near non-existent?
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>>1639522
Doesn't matter. Empires die because projecting power at a distance is both necessary and ruinously expensive.
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>>1639540
pretty much both. maybe there would be other monotheistic cults but they would continue to be a minority compared to the rest of the empire
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>Need to die in battle to get into Valhalla or Folkvangr
So what did they think would happen to the Nords who died of plague or old age?
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They didn't get to go to Valhalla.
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>>1639515
They went to hell
Their fault for not heroically dying while raiding unarmed peasants and monks
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>>1639515
They went to Hel
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Can we get a historical shitposting and humor thread?
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A
FUCKING
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Horace Bixby, I'm SAM
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>>1639537
Reasonable kek