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>>1641053
I don't know if you can call them a civilization, but the Natufians were pretty cool.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

Ancient Africa had some often-overlooked civilizations, but you can't say that on /his/ or you get the wewuz kangs meme.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aksum#

>>1641053
There's those few centuries when remnants of Alexander's army ruled Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Bactrian_Kingdom

I wish we knew more about them.

>>1641082
Speaking of Africa, Nubia is legitimately overlooked despite being very advanced, developed and constantly fucking with the upper kingdom

Isn't that utilitarianism?

Just be a kind and charitable person until 6 PM, then do whatever you want until bedtime.

>>1640977
I see your point, but Utilitarianism is kind of just hedonism with a different label to make it seem more "organized".

>>1640950
That's not hedonism though, hedonism is just trying to maximise your own pleasure/happiness. For some people that might include trying to maximise others', but it doesn't necessarily.
Although many people derive happiness from being "good people" and trying to make others happy, basically nobody cares about trying to maximise absolutely everybody's happiness, it's just not a realistic goal.

>>1640949
Sounds like something from Second Congo War, OP. I know the Rwandans did that event you're talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

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All I got is this

>>1640971
>>1640970
That was it!!! Thanks! You guys are fuckin wizards

>>1640943
I think he meant that Wellington fights sitting on his ass

>there will be no more movies like Waterloo again
the work they put on that was great

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>>1641028
>tfw

>apologizing for a battle

>>1640935
>not apologizing for attacking your own allies and killing 1000 of their men

>>1640935
If that was a "battle" then Pearl Harbor needs to start being considered as such too.

What level of irony are we on in 2016?

>>1640913
Avant-guarde post-irony.

>>1640899
I think this is amazing

NOT YET.

He's an interesting guy. Supposedly reeked because they were afraid water carried diseases back then.

>>1640889
I'm sure he smelled very strongly of perfume mixed with sweat

this is more of a /pol/ thread, but I will gladly discuss the empire of brazil

>>1640886
Please do.

>13 years later the country is way better financially and equal between social classes, if not for Rousseff
Sure, this is why no one can find a job and half of the country is dependent on welfare.

>>1640836

There have been plenty of crises worse than this one in the past 100 years, but none of them ended the world. The Great Recession that erupted in 2008, the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the 1997-98 Asian and Russian financial meltdowns, the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989-91, the oil spikes of 1973 and 1979 — the list goes on, but civilization always survived. Even the material destruction of the world wars, which claimed close to 100 million lives, was largely put right.

The obvious implication seems to be that we should, as the British like to put it, keep calm and carry on. Terrible things happen, but even the worst can be contained. The larger global system rights itself relatively quickly. But this seems less true if we look back deeper into history, where we find examples of collapses from which no one would say that civilization "relatively quickly" righted itself. These periods raise some troubling questions for the 21st century.

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>>1640839

Civilizations Collapse

The greatest of these end-of-everything moments was the fall of the Roman Empire. In the last three centuries B.C., Rome conquered the whole Mediterranean Basin; within another 100 years it ruled everywhere between the borders of Scotland and Iran. The empire linked together some 60 million people, one million of them in the city of Rome itself, and extended trade routes all across Eurasia. By the second century A.D., aristocrats in Korea could marvel at Roman glass vases while soldiers on Hadrian's Wall spiced their food with Indian black pepper. Living standards within the empire probably rose by 50-100 percent between 200 B.C. and A.D. 200; and while this growth rate sounds glacially slow today, the world had never before seen anything like it.

In the third century, however, the empire broke up. A generation of war then pulled it back together, but by the fifth century its western half was shattered beyond repair. Trade routes collapsed, populations fell and cities returned to forest. In some of my books I have developed a quantitative index of social development for measuring societies' capacity to master their environments, and on that metric, European development fell by one-third between 100 and 700, not regaining its first-century level until the 18th century. Edward Gibbon was quite right to say in 1776 that the fall of Rome was an "awful revolution … which will ever be remembered, and is still felt by the nations of the earth."

cont.

>>1640843

But while the fall of Rome was the most awful revolution on record, it was not the only one. Another long-lived, if obscure, catastrophe began around 1900 B.C. in what is now Pakistan. For seven centuries, extraordinary cities with populations in the tens of thousands — Mohenjo-daro, Harappa and others — flourished in the Indus Valley. They were literate, built great monuments and traded with the Sumerian civilizations in what is now Iraq. Then, quite quickly, the Indus cities were abandoned, their script was forgotten (we still cannot read what it says) and their populations collapsed. More than 1,000 years then passed before complex civilizations in South Asia returned to the level of sophistication seen prior to 1900 B.C., and even then the main centers had shifted from the Indus to the Ganges Valley.

There is another well-known example from the Eastern Mediterranean after 1200 B.C. Across the previous half-millennium a roughly triangular area with points in what are now Egypt, Greece and southwestern Iran had become increasingly interconnected. Egyptian pharaohs and kings of Babylon exchanged gold, scented wood and marriage partners, writing a voluminous correspondence and, when diplomacy failed, fielding armies of thousands of chariots. Then this world, too, abruptly fell apart. Its great cities burned, some of them forgotten until archaeologists returned to their ruins in the 20th century. Recovery was quicker than in the Indus Valley but still painfully slow; new cities arose in Assyria and perhaps Israel in the 10th century B.C., but Greece, out on the periphery, revived only around 700 B.C.

cont.

>>1640828
Buddhist

I guess I'm fairly devoted.

>>1640828

Nice spooks, faggot

Deist at heart but I go to Catholic and Orthodox services whenever I can because I find them extremely pleasant, especially the orthodox services because there is a large domed church. There isn't really an equivalent Catholic Church in my area

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>>1640797
>Any leftist way of government is le big guberment doing everything

>>1640797

communists and fascists are fucking retarded m8, because they assume that everyone will bend to their will.

>>1640805
I don't recall saying that.

And obviously these things exist on a sliding scale. The more an economy is planned the less based on real value it will be and the less it's planned the more so.

Don't be a faggot. Let's hear some hear some real arguments, commie

Google Cursos de Quechua. I think there are quechua universities in Peru or Bolivia

>>1640515
Why, OP?
You wanna fuk some Andes cuties and wear a yarn hat?

>>1640745
It's the surviving indigenous American Language with the largest number of speakers.

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>>1640436
>It seems like most non-Africans find Africans to be quite ugly
Well, I don't
>inb4 2d

>>1640436
They look so different from the other races.

>>1640449
Well if you are Western, Western society as a whole does not value African aesthetic. Despite all the "twerking" maymays.

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>popery
>based

>>1640390
Beats snake worshipping American protestants.

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>>1640392
Everything beats "Protestant" LARPers
But it gets completely BTFO by based Biblical Christianity (actual Protestantism)