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Which book(s) changed your outlook on the world, /lit/?

Most of Nietzsche's work fucked me up. Everyone that came after him strikes me as some sort of pretender to the philosophical throne.
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>>8393427
I feel the same with Cioran.
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>>8393427

>Tfw he spawned a generation of post-modernist/structuralist hacks to ride upon his coattails
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>>8393427
My Twisted World by Elliot Rodger.

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>you will live to see the day when the Nationalist Renaissance allows you to read non-Marxist anti-post-modern literature

Are you ready /lit/?
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>>8393382
Or it'll just fuck everything up, like nationalism has a penchant for doing
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Never thought of that, but won't it be just nazi ride with sci-fi seasonig?
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>>8393387

god forbid nationalism ruins our fully functional modern world

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All the time on here, I see people praising the Iliad and the Odyssey as great epic poems (they are), but rarely does the Aeneid get any appreciation. Why is this, /lit/?
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>Arms, and the man I sing, who, forc'd by fate,
And haughty Juno's unrelenting hate,
Expell'd and exil'd, left the Trojan shore.
Long labors, both by sea and land, he bore,
And in the doubtful war, before he won
The Latian realm, and built the destin'd town;
His banish'd gods restor'd to rites divine,
And settled sure succession in his line,
From whence the race of Alban fathers come,
And the long glories of majestic Rome.


Actually pretty good isn't it, what is the best translation
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Aeneid is better planned than Illiad, and doesn't have as many boring fillers
as either of the two
So it's good, but i guess people are too caught up in the Start With The Greeks meme
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>>8393377
It depends on what you want out of the translation. Fagles' is the best in terms of following Vergil while still remaining poetic imo. Dryden's is better poetry, but it strays from the original a bit

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realistically how much money does he have

how much did he make from gravity's rainbow?
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probably inherited more than he made on royalties
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>>8393380
This. He was always rich and probably also made a good amount from writing. I think his wife is also a successful liyerary agent who comes from a similar blue blood family line. He's definitely a millionaire
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>>8393413
>>8393380
>He was always rich
How do you know?

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tfw when to intelligent too read fiction
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tfw when not intelligent enough too read fiction
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Tfw when to 4chan too read fiction
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>>8393334
>too

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Post author interviews, lectures, or anything else /lit/ related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bi2YA_r-QQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bVkKJAju-0
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>>8393290

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymiGSa26M1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhW0TrzWGmI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr6AYzqFK9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE04BmNmgAI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVcrimSicek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTePKA1wgc

random shit i have found
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Julius Evola interview
https://youtu.be/QiCtdi5nCoA

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Is...is he right /lit/?
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>>8393266
No
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>>8393266
>>>/pol/
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>>8393266
No. Flapping one's arms very quickly does not permit flight.

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>/lit/ irl
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>>8393264
I want to sit on that nice bald head
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>camus

lol pseud
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>>8393264
He says he is going to read Elif Shafak's books who he was in conversation with at the Dalkey book festival. I only went for the economics stuff but I missed his talk as I could only travel down after it.

Why should i read this?
What will i get from read it?
What makes it different from other things?
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>>8393229

Is there supposed to be an ass on that hand?
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>>8393229
it is trash and belongs in the trash.
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>>8393229
Its pretty meh and ends on a cliff hanger. Up to you.

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>absence of social strife
>cool aesthetic
>beer, fags and football for the proles
>Winston ends the book happy
>the joy of unconditional love from Big Brother

Explain how this isn't a utopia
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It's not real for a start.
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>>8393222

>real
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>>8393181
>society rules by fear
>utopia

Also, you disregard the possibility if a state of false happiness

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What were your thoughts on this?

After reading Infinite Jest, I bought it almost 5 years ago before I had started undergrad. However, I only got about halfway through and never picked it back up again. I've really been considering starting it up again, though, especially now that I've graduated with a BS in accounting and am a tax accountant. I'm wondering if this could speak to me on another level.
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>>8393174
Yeah, I love The Pale King. David Wallace is much less intent on impressing you, which is nice - the writing feels more natural. Still anxiety driven and odd, but not in an occasionally purposeful convoluted manner like his early work.
Expect work like Oblivion, but more hopeful.
The chapter with Meredith Rand and Drinion is my favorite thing Wallace has ever written. Sylvanshine's major section is great, too.
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No where near "finished". This was suppose to be his magnum opus but he decided to kick the can before he can hear the critisms
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>>8393217
Great, you have me excited to read it again.

>>8393598
Yeah, I remember that being the most depressing part of reading it. But I thought it was universally acclaimed regardless.

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How do I get into him /lit?/, should I use translations or a dictionary? I have a hard time understanding his verbose 17th century English.
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Some modern ebooks are annotated on a basic level (meaning they clarify even the obvious)
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Can you read English?
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>>8393147

It helps to watch a good production of it on youtube or something, because it can make more sense when spoken aloud by professional Shakespearean actors (so ignore big budget movies because too many big name actors don't really know how to read Shakespeare out loud and just kind of say his words, which confuses things even more).

Just go slow, be patient, and use the annotations to clear up obscurities. Remember, he's not writing in a different language or anything.

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so a poet that has done an epic of Greek and Roman
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Ovid is the most underappreciated....

I mean guys like Homer and Dante were giants....Vergil was great too but him and many of the other Roman poets were mainly making derivivatve stuff based on early greek poems

LET ME SAY THIS

no poem from any ancient greek or roman poet...including the almighty Homer himself and Dante and whoever....NONE have had the influnece that Ovid's Metamorphoses has on Western Literature....NONE
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>>8393169

Nah...its Homer
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>>8393138
>>8393169
>>8393210
>posters
>1
Really makes you think

Who's your favorite character?
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>>8393106
there were characters?
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the pgoat
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Mario

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Is it ever explained in any lovecraft story why the deep ones do what they do?

Like, why do the deep ones give gold in exchange for sacrifice? what do they get out of people being killed?

also, who do they want to breed with humans? if it were to get rid of humans and replace them with their offspring, wouldn't it be easier to just kill the humans?
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>>8393101
The Deep Ones are the worshippers of Dagon and Cthulhu, they sacrifica people for unknown reasons but it's hinted that it's a part of a ritual that needs killings in order to satisfy their Gods.
They breed with humans because their gene is stronger than ours and by the time we reach full madurity the Deep One gene kicks in and you are drawn to the sea to join your fish brothers and make the cult greater.
They don't want to kill the humans and replace them on earth, they are waiting, worshipping Dagon and expecting Cthulhu to take back Earth when he awakes.

You are very missinformed, what stories have you read?
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>>8393142
i read a shadow over innsmouth a while ago and the dunwich horror more recently. was planning on getting into some more lovecraft, but i wanted some clarifications.

Not necessarily misinformed, just missing information.
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>>8393154
At the end of SoI it's explained that /spoiler/ the protagonist has Deep Ones blood and he goes to break his cousing from jail and travel with him to Innsmouth to meet with their Deep Ones relatives. Read At the mountains of madness, everythins is pretty much explained there.

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