>But I am not a fan of “Stoner.” First, along with other female readers, I am put off by Williams’s misogyny. Second, as a professor of English, I am dismayed by the pedantry and narrow-mindedness of his teaching and his treatment of a dissenting student.
>misogany
LOL WAT
How in hell was William Stoner a misogynist? He gave all his love and affection to his wife Edith, only for her to take it and throw it all in the garbage. Even after they both were fully aware of their failed marriage he still supported her in everything she did meanwhile at the same time she sabotaged his life in every single way. She made sure to distance their daughter away from William. She even
went as far as destroying his study and life's work. She practially drained him of all the happiness he had left.....
Where exactly in the story was he a misogynist?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/classic-stoner-not-so-fast/2015/11/02/9f0ed5aa-7db3-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html?tid=kp_google#comments
School of resentment. Look it up anon. Journalism is ruined.
>>8394511
The article is referring to the author's misogyny in writing females as terrible people.
>>8394520
This, but also you would do well to not take clickbait too seriously
I'm not fluent in French, but I have a basic working knowledge of the language, it's construction, grammar and syntax, as well as a propensity to expand my vocabulary.
To the francophones and native speakers on this board: who are the most eloquent writers you have read? I don't necessarily mean the most interesting or compelling writers, but the ones who could write with eloquence and grace, something like Henry James in English.
In a sense, I'm basically asking who, in your opinion, is the best French prose stylist; but really I just want to read something where clarity and economy of expression is valued over expressive and creative liberties.
>>8394288
>it's
Goddamned auto-correct.
>>8394288
I'm technically a native speaker of french since I've spoken it from birth, but it is a bit rusty.
Stendhal is probably my favorite french author, the writing is just fucking incredible. I would recommend La Chartreuse de Parme over Le Rouge et le Noir.
Flaubert is also very beautiful.
Andre Gide has the best dialogue I think I have encountered, Les Faux-monnayeurs is especially good.
For your specific question there I would say maybe Albert Camus, there's a reason they teach him to highschool kids, he has an ability for precision, for lucidity, and pure evocative power that made him world famous along with his pseudo-philosophies. A slightly different possibility is Marguerite Duras, that would definitely be in line with 'clarity of and economy of expression'.
The best french literature is probably Racine and Corneille though which is not really what you're after I guess
>>8394339
Thank you for your reccs. What I've read of Flaubert in the original is indeed what I'm looking for, but I didn't want to be so obvious with my inquiry.
I've read rouge et noir, but not Parma, so that'll be good.
I've also read Les faux-monnayeurs in translation and thought it was superb, but I've never felt the need to reread it although I do have a French edition of it lying around somewhere. I'll get to that then as well.
Again, thanks for the input.
Tell me your ideas /lit/
Now I know you haven't gotten started on writing anything. But surely you have some creative ideas floating around in your head! I know I do. What are they? Are you gonna write a super serious novel or a magical fantasy?
>dude wanders america, simultaneous to others lost
>eventually becomes turtle
>>8394168
I have an idea about using a post-apocalyptic setting to explore
anarchist theories of structure i.e. Horizontal structure and how a post capitalist society might form.
Also interested in exploring what I percieve to be anarchisms short comings, particularly on how to deal with the mentally ill.
plot might be about small socialist-like village that has to deal with a sociopath/serial killer or something like that while also fighting off generic post apocalyptic warlord/barbarian types.
if you've played the Honest Hearts dlc for Fallout New Vegas, imagine something like that but with Cormac McCarthy narrating.
I think this has probably been done before though.
>turtle wanders China
>eventually he becomes a man
Would anyone here be interested in a weekly club dedicated to reading and exposition of Aristotle?
I haven't seen any such groups on here in some time, I think it could be cool. Far too few people seem to bother with Aristotle, which is tragic given his place as perhaps the most important thinker in the western tradition.
Do Poetics instead of any of the Ethics. Everyone always tries to shill Nicomachean Ethics and they're always surprised when nobody wants to read that shit.
>>8393857
I'd start with Categories and continue on to logical works, then the Physics and finally the Metaphysics. Seems much more relevant to understand subsequent philosophy IMO. Ethics and Politics I'd leave after the "theoretical" works.
>>8393844
are reading the Greeks valid in this day? all i see is people reading all these modern thinkers and their existential bs, is there any value in reading the ancients?
Why are more and more books starting to be made like this? It is annoying to read with all the pages being different lengths or uneven and it looks retarded; like someone just took a pair of scissors to a perfectly good book and thought it looked better.
>>8393560
what was once a way of cutting corners now can be thought to add dignity to a book.
its a stupid fashion, if you don't like it buy a shear and quit being a pussy.
>>8393560
I have that same copy of Broom. I like it. But that's also the largest/longest book I'd like it for. Anything 600+ should be standard pages. Also found this one for cheap recently. I think it's worth more than the average paperback copy of it
>tfw I just ordered Broom of the System 2 days ago
Dammit OP. You should have posted this sooner.
A murder goes to see Kant and wants to kill his son playing somewhere in the neighbor's yard. Kant knows where's his son. The murderer asks where is his son so that he can kill him. Kant tells the truth because it's his duty to tell the truth.
A murder goes to see Ayn Rand and wants to kill her son playing somewhere in the neighbor's yard. Ayn Rand knows where's her son. The murderer asks where is her son so that he can kill him. Ayn Rand lies because she knows it might trick the murderer. Normally, Ayn Rand values being truthful above all else, however, in her hierarchy of values, she selfishly values her son over always telling the truth. She lies because she values her son a lot and loves him. She didn't love her son, he wouldn't be higher than one of her more cherished values.
Kant does not love his son.
Ayn Rand loves her son.
Kant told the truth out of duty.
Ayn Rand told a lie out of individualism and selfishness.
Is this correct /lit/?
>>8391312
Ayn would probably demand a payment then sellout her son I mean family is a spook anyway
>>8391454
Not if she values her son more than money.
Who would breed that "thing"?
Only thing worse than an ugly woman, is a right wing woman
Write what's on your mind.
>>8391162
How's about you write what's on YOUR mind, buddy?
>>8391162
>ywn have qt asian gf
>>8391162
I hate women and their roastwhore cunts
Really big construction edition.
What's the most jaw-dropping SFF megastructure?
What kind of superconstruction do you wish more SFF featured?
What SF novel is most like BLAME!?
(Some random anons' completely subjective) Recommendations:
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
What would you do if an alien appeared and told you to suck its dick?
>>8390221
Reposting
I loved the idea of the Ringworld more than I enjoyed the book. But the second Ringworld book was good.
Just the idea of something so many hundreds of thousands of earths could fit in, how far you can travel amd still be on the ring.
Do you think nationalism is philosophically justifiable?
>>8389635
yes
everything is
Axiom: Nationalism is good
Yes on multiple levels
Read Fichte, Herder, Heidegger
Didn't see one in the catalog, so can we get one of these going? Rate, h8, rec, compliment, shitpost, whatever. How's my shelf look?
Babby's first bookshelf.
Your bookshelf tells me you have nothing worth contributing and you bring down the average quality of users.
>>8388959
not op but dune, tolkien, and lovecraft are great
dude's just really into fantasy
Don't mind me if I make yet another one of these.
...The stack of books I currently have beside my couch. How am I doing? Constructive criticism, please!But, a few shitposts never hurt anybody.
>Jack Keroac.
Wew lad.
>>8388385
dear diary i was at big sur like 2 months ago, you ever been? almost all of it is one big memey tourist destination but if you go there you have to camp out on naciomento-fergusson road; literally the scariest cliffy road you'll ever drive on because it's pitch black and night and there's a fog so thick that even your non-high beams reflect back at you and the road is like 2 of your body thick with like a thousand foot drop on one side it's spooky but you can literally camp on the side of the road
amazing view of the ocean and cliffy valley, and there's always spots open, you oughta go there i can't do it justice
>his to read list isn't register based
>have a project on the Iliad
>the whole time I present in front of the class, pronounce it as the lee-ad
/lit/ cringe/autism thread
English was a mistake desu
>have a project on the lliad
>teacher asks "So why isn't the first letter capitalized?"
>I don't have an answer, stutter out something
>she lowers my grade because I "didn't perform well under pressure"
>>8398098
That's why you use serif fonts, OP
ok, so here's the deal... I get about half way through The Count of Monte Cristo until i realize i'm reading the fucking abridged version. Anyone familiar with both versions know if the abridged suffices or should i just go out, get the unabridged version, and start all over??
>>8397881
Get rid of it. Start over. Count does not stand up to abridgment.
Penguin and OWC are unabridged. The former has a better translation, while the latter has a better cover and paper.
>buy the first part of Don Quixote
>buy the second part
>reading the second part
>Don Quixote and Sancho go to Zaragoza
>mfw i bought the fake version of the second part
>If God does not exist, then everything is permitted.
Prove him wrong. Pro tip:you can't
>>8397843
I mean it's poorly phrased but the argument is pretty solid. Without an absolute foundation for ethics, everything becomes permitted. Just look at the mess that moral relativism has become.
AllAhu AckBAr
Everything IS permitted, so what matters this? How else could you be enough of a faggot to make this thread, anyway?
Is there any pre-homeric literature worth reading? Or is it all just fragments from shitty cultures that don't matter any more?
Gilgamesh. The bulk of Ancient Indian Literature. Parts of the Bible. The Avestas.
>>8397817
Almost all of it
Book of Coming Forth By Day (Book of the Dead)