Can /lit/ recommend me some good absurdist fiction? Only familiar with pic related
ok i'm going to be pedantic for a second and tell you that you're probably meaning surrealism which is kind of used interchangeably with 'the bizarre' or 'lol XD randum' while absurdism is a philosophical belief that life is essentially meaningless, neither of which describes cats cradle because that book is primarily political so assuming that you mean surrealism and by the fact that you say that you aren't really well read then i would suggest you read murakami
>>8397524
OP here, I do not mean surrealism.
I thought life = meaningless was nihilism, while life = maybe meaningful but that meaning is unknowable to humans was absurdism. As far as I can tell Bokononism (the religion described in the novel) is based on absurdist beliefs. Of course, I'm not well read so I may be completely off base.
>>8397568
You're completely right OP
IS Max Stirner a meme? I remember reading about him when I was like in middle school but couldnt understand philosophy stuff, but he seems to have become a meme these past few years.
Are they all ironic? Are they all making fun of stirner or are they serious?
>>8397154
Deadly serious. Stirner is the first person to solve philosophy.
>>8397154
>ironic
>meme
>serious
Spooked af
>>8397272
this, there is no way to debunk him
Is pic related about right?
No because all of these are concurrent. Those terms represent different ages of thinking and how they are divided over time. In the case of this board, they identify trends in periods of literature.
>>8397232
Thanks. I was trying to be ironic and you shut me down with an intelligent, actual answer.
>>8397133
https://xkcd.com/1480/
"My hobby: Pretending to miss the sarcasm when people show off their lack of interest in football by talking about 'sportsball' and acting excited to find someone else who's interested, then acting confused when they try to clarify."
>that guy in class who pronounces i.e. as "id est"
>that guy who pronounces foehn as foohn
>>8397110
>that guy in class who pronounces "rape" as incomprehensible weeping and can't keep reading after that
>the guy who thought the rape of the lock meant someone who uses a tiny penis to pick locks
I was lurking on amazon for this book, but some reviews report missing parts, does anyone know where I can find the full version?
>>8397092
The reason nobody bothers with the unabridged version is because it's fucking 1,000 pages long, I think it's just about on par with the KJV bible in total length. The man goes on several digressions that last anywhere from 10 to 70 pages. While a lot of books are abridged for the sake of the plebs, this one is abridged for everyone's sake.
There are maybe 300 of those pages that are worth reading. Also Smith is a retard and peddles the same shit advice that modern economics tries to sell you on. Like he says that America shouldn't bother developing industry and should just focus on natural resource extraction, comparative advantage style. Cause that works so well for all of the banana republics lmao.
>>8397458
Has anything but state-sponsored developmental economics ever actually lifted a nation to economic might? All the major economic powers had government support in their earliest days of development. Even Britain, the great champion of free markets, had government support for its early textile and iron industries.
>>8397477
Absolutely not. Name one industry and I will explain how government sponsored its development. The idea that there can be such a thing as a market without monopolies within a state structure where the use of force is monopolized is preposterous.
'Free Market' economics are tartuffery of the highest order. The USA is presented as an ideological champion of the market when basically every aspect of modern American life is funded through government support. The internet, the interstate system, the aerospace industry, biotech, ect.
There was a wonderful discussion posted here yesterday between the former Greek finance minister and Chomsky that touched on this. I actually ordered his book based on this. I just wish that we could disentangle smart economics from the ideological baggage that it comes with in most left wing parties in the west. It's incredible to me how ostensibly smart socialists can quite easily identify capitalist ideology at work while shouting REFUGEES WELCOME, WE ARE ALL THE SAME, CELEBRATE DIVERSITY as their sisters are raped by savages who have invaded their homelands. Savages which their governments refuse to govern, while they spend millions of euros setting up anti-rightwing trollbusting taskforces that send people to jail for being meanie faces and hurting peoples' feelings on twitter.
I'm just finishing this, this was the best book I've ever read. Is there anything like it in the aspect of high paced jazz-language that either came before it or doesn't come off as a ripoff? Are there any of his other books or beat poetry books I should be checking out?
Read Howl, its dedicated to Jack Keruoac and Neal Cassady. Also Visions of Cody and Big Sur. I also love the beats anon, but /lit/ really does not.
Henry Miller. Tropic of Cancer. Both prior to and better than any of the beats.
>>8396966
why not? glad someone else here does at least
Tell us what your five favorite books are and others will try to guess stuff about you irl
Lolita (Nabokov)
Naked Lunch (Burroughs)
La Confirmation (Segre)
Babyfucker (Alleman)
Infinite Jest (Wallace)
Lolita
Lolit
Loli
Lol
Lo
Gravity's Rainbow
The Age of Innocence
Middlemarch
Ulysses
Black Lamb and Grey Falcon
Are there any good non-french novels that talk about gay love or attraction between an older man and a boy?
>>8396622
Death in Venice
>>8396622
fag
>>8396635
f**k already read that
man, I love gerne fiction!
You know, why don't we eat curry for breakfast?
I like watching TV and playing sports.
Do you have a nice local library /lit/? Do any of you use your public library?
>tfw reading classics in a postmodern spaceship
The libraries here are for bums to warm their putrid feet, ex-cons from the nearby heroin-soaked men's shelter to browse the Internet for porn and online gambling instead of jobs, and high schoolers to study. All that happens when I go there is I stare at the teenagers' thighs and think about how I want to die.
My little carnegie library in the university district, Seattle. no college kids actually come here because the campus ones are way nicer. So, bums and 5 minute bathroom limits mostly.
Any compeling arguments against the Ayn Rand's discourse of self interest ?
>>8396446
>swnsytdwsgybf
How the fuck do you argue against a 'discourse'?
>>8396446
Not really because it wasn't well argued to begin with
When did you fall out of love with Harry Potter, /tv/?
Was it when Kloves and Yates - two hacks, one intent on forcing his own fanfiction and the other only capable of gutting the books in place of Hollywood cliches and endless grimdarkery - took over the film series?
Or when Rowling made the incredible misstep of the Epilogue - in which Harry is so obsessed and depressed even 20 years later that all his children are named after dead people?
Or when Rowling dripfed nonsense through her broken website for years instead of producing, or allowing the right people to produce, new content?
Or when she decided to write a series of films set on a 20-page charity book - in the process discarding by far the best part of the series, the setting of the pseudo-Victorian British wizarding world for NEW YORK EDDIE LIZARDFACE LOL?
For me it was when she gave some random guy's fanfiction equality to, and precedence over, her own work.
Does she have absolutely no pride as an author? There's an incredible difference between an author continuing a series after the original author has died and what is going on here. It's baffling. She doesn't need the money. If for whatever reason she felt there needed to be a Harry Potter play, why could she not write it herself? Has she gone clinically insane?
>>8396435
I think i was like 14, I don't really remember, I was into skateboarding or something and harry potter was uncool
A couple years ago I picked up a copy that was lying about at my dad's and skimmed through, I cannot fathom how anybody but a child would read that stuff
I think it was book 5 when Rowling started killing off characters and everyone I know was like "omg important people die, that's so deep and dark".
>>8396435
For me, it was when Rowling accused all fans irked by her idiotic claim that "Hermione was never white" of being racist pigs--not just fans irked by a black actress being cast in the role, but any fan expressing any surprise or contesting her claim that a white Hermione wasn't accepted canon at this point. No interest in the play, or any version of it.
What are some good books on aesthetics?
Magazines, picture books
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6475ZpbH_cGSWxsZjdtY05ySGM/view
>>8396314
Are there any more guides like this?
> https://es.scribd.com/document/194975370/The-Anarchist-Banker
Was he right lit? Is this the best way to be an anarchist? It looks to me more like egoism the way our favourite ghost buster would like it.
>>8396225
can you summarize his point? it's not opening for me
>>8396305
The best way to help a society reach its "natural state" of anarchy is through an individual effort to free yourself from the social norms that perpetuate the status quo, seeing that in any (i.e. anarchist) collective new forms of tyranny will arise from the natural qualities - as in leader vs follower personality, for example - of its constituents, which goes against the greater objective.
bump because it's an interesting read
what are some of /lit/'s favorite short stories? it seems like short fiction is underrated here
Its a collection of short stories, but The Last Wish by Andrei Sapkowski (idk how to spell properly) is really good. Technically the first book in a fantasy series, this one is far batter than the others and each story provides a fascinating look at Polish medieval myths and culture, and an introduction to the grizzled character of Geralt the Witcher.
The Dubliners by James Joyce is my favourite short story.
>>8396038
>short fiction is underrated here
Not really, it's just that there aren't very many that are very good.
If you're looking for collections that are god-tier in their entirety, more or less, you can't go wrong with Joyce's Dubliners or Borges' Ficciones or OP's pic related. Chekhov and Carver are two other masters of the form.
If you're asking for some of my personal favourites who I believe are somewhat underrated these days, check out Silvina Ocampo and Bruno Schulz.