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What does 4chan think of the subreddit "criticaltheory" and their reading list?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalTheory/comments/1ljxft/critical_theory_reading_list/
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i dont
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i like turtles
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>just a list of famous texts on those subjects that everyone already knows about

What am i meant to think? It's just a generic list.

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Please post and discuss feminist literature and philosophy

I'm looking for individualist feminism and existential feminism. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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>>8389180
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'.

That's all. Read this essay and you'll be redpilled to the true "essence" of women, and realize how inferior they are to men.

WOmen aren't as ontologically 'there' as men, they aren't properly inscribed into the symbolic text. They have no depth, no real existential angst or anguish, they are superficial, dumb, and selfish.

No woman can truly love, truly be ethical, or truly be loyal, because their thoughts do not extend further than to Chad cock and handbags and shoes.

To encourage feminism is to encourage white genocide. Giving women the right to choose sexual partners invariably ends up in interracial relationships and brown babies because women's judgment is rash, naive, and down-right dumb.

Women are meant to take care of domestic matters and raise children, and THAT'S FINAL.
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>>8389180
Lol to discussing feminism on /lit/

Barbara Ehrenreich is good. Not sure if it is even feminist literature though, not very political.
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>>8389180
The Second Sex
Gender Trouble

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If you want this board to not be shit, stop bumping brain dead threads.

If you want actual discussions and not memes, stop encouraging shit OPs

Learn to recognize a troll and stop feeding them or every thread will be reddit tumblr tier garbage because they know it it gets a rise out of you.

Block troll posts, don't bump their shit threads. Just stop.
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>>8389139
There are people who only come here for those very threads.

See any thread involving women, the /r9k/ posters go mental. They're infinitely more popular than boring literature discussions.
Like tumblr, 4chan lives and breathes identity politics and it's most obvious with the /pol9k/ losers.
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Or Inadvertent trolls.
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>>8389139
We should consider adding this to the sticky

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Hey friends,

I am looking for the name of a children's book I used to have when I was growing up. In the book there was a kid I want to say named Felix, but not 100%. Basically he is on the street at night and all the houses look like scary faces until he shines his flashlight on them revealing that they are just normal houses and he doesn't need to be scared.

Thats sorta all I remember so if anyone know's what Im talking about, that would be helpful.
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>>8389118
it's called The Avocado Baby
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>>8389165
Most definitely not that.
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>>8389172
It's called The Owl and the Pussycat

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r. patz here. found this little diddy and thought i'd share it with you guys.

The South Wind Say So

IF the oriole calls like last year
when the south wind sings in the oats,
if the leaves climb and climb on a bean pole
saying over a song learnt from the south wind,
if the crickets send up the same old lessons
found when the south wind keeps on coming,
we will get by, we will keep on coming,
we will get by, we will come along,
we will fix our hearts over,
the south wind says so.

- Carl Sandburg
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>>8389106
I like how you showed just a bit of the book, enough that only only literature BA girls would notice. how much did you pay the photographer?
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>>8389638
He's with FKA Twigs, I don't see how college broads would even register on the radar.
that's like ditching your filet mignon dinner and running outside after an ice cream truck.
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>>8389106
you never said why you needed to know about section breaks. you working on something?

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any stories or books i can read in under 1 hour?

i'm trailing behind this year and really need to pad out my goodreads profile
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>>8389088
I was in the same position earlier this year and I read Howl and Death of a Salesman helped me out. Do you resort to children's lit like Alice in Wonderland, the Little Prince and Wonderful Wizard of Oz? Those will help you out too, and I've realized people are non-judgmental and even Manny does this to have his 6,000 or so reads, but if you're trying for more "adult" selections, just read small poetry volumes and short plays.
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>>8389088
lol i played this game
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>>8389088
Just read more often, then you'll get more caught up.

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literally why does this exist if 1984 was published before it
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Make some nerd bucks
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>>8389015
The two books have totally different themes.
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>>8389019
'no'

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What is your opinion on William Blake? Genius, prophet, hack, absolute madman?
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>>8389000

he got about as close to a mystic as an artist can get.

genius, yes.
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One of the GOAT. A favorite between the ages of Victoria to infinity
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>>8389011
Philip K. Dick begs to disagree.

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Do you read short stories? Today I read pic related. It took me like 20 minutes. It was nice and relaxing.
How do I into more short stories?
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>>8388967
Have you tried collections?
Either by a collection from a specific writer, or a certain era/country (e.g. oxford book of _____ short stories)?
The latter are a good way to find new authors, but then I feel that they can be hit and miss.
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>>8388975
I tried Necromonicom. I didn't like most of the stuff though.
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>>8388978
Yeah, I get that problem commonly when I went for a single author volume. You make really enjoy one or a few but then the ones that aren't so good king of takes the enjoyment out of the whole thing.
I'd suggest go for a compilation. You get to look for more into one theme, and if it is well selected and arranged then you don't lose any tempo. Annotation or commentaries can also add a lot. Obviously you pick something that you are interested in but if you are struggling then I would recommed the oxford series are pretty well done.

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What is going on inside of your head when it feels beauty? I try to put to words what I'm feeling when I listen to a piece of music that moves me, but I can't even understand what it is in it that it evokes in me. Can you put to words what that feeling is?
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>>8388962
no
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>>8388962
Sounds pretty gay tbf
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Neurologically or artistically?

If the former, you may be interested in the popsci book; This Is Your Brain on Music: The Science of a Human Obsession

If the latter, then read some Art Crit and Appreciation

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I'm looking for a fiction that has lots of really freaky philosophical conversations, lots of themes that really bend and test the concept of existence and being, something ice cold serious, like pinhead, alien, evangelion, eraserhead, whatever extremely creepy and gritty stuff you can find. I'm talking like, old school anime, serious darkness and grittyness, serious adult themes, weird fuck.
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>>8388927
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'
Mein Kampf by Hitler
Decline of the West by SPengler
Ride the Tiger by Evola
The Moral Landscape by Harris
The Culture of Critique Series by McDonald
My Twisted World by Rodger
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>>8388935
Wow, I'll buy a first edition copy of all of them.
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>>8388935
shitposter begone

>>8388927
Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco

>Foucault's Pendulum is divided into ten segments represented by the ten Sefiroth. The novel is full of esoteric references to Kabbalah, alchemy and conspiracy theory—so many, that critic and novelist Anthony Burgess suggested that it needed an index. The pendulum of the title refers to an actual pendulum designed by the French physicist Léon Foucault to demonstrate Earth's rotation, and has symbolic significance within the novel.

>Bored with their work, and after reading too many manuscripts about occult conspiracy theories, three vanity publisher employees (Belbo, Diotallevi and Casaubon) invent their own conspiracy for fun. They call this satirical intellectual game "The Plan," a hoax that connects the medieval Knights Templar with other occult groups from ancient to modern times. This produces a map indicating the geographical point from which all the powers of the earth can be controlled—a point located in Paris, France, at Foucault’s Pendulum. But in a fateful turn the joke becomes all too real.

>The three become increasingly obsessed with The Plan, and sometimes forget that it's just a game. Worse still, other conspiracy theorists learn about The Plan, and take it seriously. Belbo finds himself the target of a real secret society that believes he possesses the key to the lost treasure of the Knights Templar.

>Orchestrating these and other diverse characters into his multilayered semiotic adventure, Eco has created a superb cerebral entertainment.

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I'm currently reading Moore's Principia Ethica, a most interesting treatise on (meta)ethics. Now, on that topic: does anyone have a satisfactory definition of 'good' (or 'goodness', if you will) or must we accept that, in the words of Moore, "good is a simple notion, just as 'yellow' is a simple notion; that, just as you cannot, by any manner of means, explain to any one who does not already know it, what yellow is, so you cannot explain what good is".

In other words, what do you think of his Open Question Argument:

P1. Suppose that the predicate 'good' is synonymous with some other predicate N (e.g., 'pleasurable').
P2. 'X has the property N' will mean 'X is good'.
>C1. Anybody who would ask whether an X with property N is good, would ipso facto betray conceptual confusion. (S)he is unaware of what 'good means (symmetry of identity, P2).
P3. Howevery, for every N it is always an open question whether an X with property N is good. It is a meaningful question that does not demonstrate conceptual confusion.
P4. If for every N it is always an open question whether an X with property N is good, then 'N' cannot be synonymous with 'good'.
>C2. 'N' cannot be synonymous with 'good' (modus ponens, P3, P4).
P5. If N cannot be synonymous with 'good', then only 'good' can be synonymous with 'good'; therefore, good is a simple (primitive) concept and cannot be defined.
>C3. Only good can be synonymous with 'good'; therefore, good is a simple (primitive) concept and cannot be defined (modus ponens, C2, P5).

Was Plato right after all?

(Spookbusters not allowed)
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>analytics
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>>8388880
I find MacIntyre to be much less autistic and much more insightful. He has the position that good cannot be defined outside a tradition or without teleology.
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>>8388880
>does anyone have a satisfactory definition of 'good' (or 'goodness', if you will)
we can rely on wittgenstein for that
you don't need to know a definition to know what good means, you need to be acquainted with social practices and the ability to take part in them is what reveals mastery of the concept

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Have you noticed that religion is used solely for social posturing these days? If you suggest that the church may not have been the least bloodthirsty thing in the world in the past you get insulted.

I'm not saying that religion is the only conduit it greed and oppression, simply that it's a damn good one. Stop telling me to read the Bible or give a shit about a particular set of stories.

Zizek is bad with this as well. "Atheist Christian" my ass. His comedic / posturing routine really hits its apex when he talks about that shit.

Oh yeah, and of course you get people talking about religion in some faggy literary theory way rather than stuff that literally happened and they pretend the latter never happened. "It-it was a prank bro!"
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>>8388829
Maybe you should go to an active community church with a strong social mission.
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No one actually follows any of their alleged rules, they just mention their strong X background means they're a moral person without doing anything
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If you were asked to suggest an entry level book to someone, which would it be? Seems like the ubiquitous answer is 1984.
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Depends on the person, 1984 is good but I know someone who couldn't get into it. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is good for blaze it fags, Siddartha is good for 'spiritual' types, Of Mice and Men is short, well recognised and difficult not to feel some emotion towards, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep or many of Philip K Dick's or Kurt Vonnegut's novels for people who like science/sci-fi. I really enjoyed The Old Man and the Sea in my teens so did a few of my friends, those that did seemed to have kept reading, coincidence I'm sure but worth mentioning.

Engage them and let them find the human component that can open up the path to other literature. Also look at what books are suggested in the back, I know penguin and some other publishers do this
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A Portrait
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stoner

i didn't get much out of it but i imagine for the average normie who never had a moment of introspection it would be revelatory and hook them

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Can the genius /lit/ community help analyse and make a coherent understanding of stefan burnett's lyrics
e.g
[Refrain]
Oh, why me, why me, oh, I mean, oh, why me
Don't see why I need all these hands, can't stand by these
Oh, why me, why me, oh, I mean, oh why me
Don't see why I need all these hands, can't stand by these

[Verse 1]
All my palm lines running, stretching
'Cross my palm like blind cross etching
Palm mummified chimera filming
Bronze my palm now, all brown palm now
Visits some medium, won't come near me
Treats me like a meteor
She scares me
[Pre-Hook]
My bony
Now, now, Billy, not really
My bony
Now, now, Billy, not really

[Hook]
Yo, oi, yo, ouh, aww, Billy, Billy, not really, yo, raw
Yo, oi, yo, ouh, aww, Billy, Billy, not really, yo, oi, yo, amnesia
Yo, oi, yo, ouh, aww, Billy, Billy, not really, yo, raw
Yo, oi, yo, ouh, aww, Billy, Billy, not really, yo, oi, yo, amnesia

[Refrain]
Oh, why me, why me, oh, I mean, oh, why me
Don't see why I need all these hands, can't stand by these
Oh, why me, why me, oh, I mean, oh, why me
Don't see why I need all these hands, can't stand by these

[Verse 2]
Every movement after sudden movement, déjà vu abductee
Sucky sucky
Sticky psyche touching so many
Sensory dripping, dripping, dripping, splashing, splashing happening
Already
Now, now, Billy, not really

[Refrain]
Oh, why me, why me, oh, I mean, oh, why me
Don't see why I need all these hands, can't stand by these

[Pre-Hook]
My bony
Now, now, Billy, not really
My bony
Now, now, Billy, not really
Amnesia

[Hook]
Yo, oi, yo, ouh, aww, Billy, Billy, not really, yo, raw
Yo, oi, yo, ouh, aww, Billy, Billy, not really, yo, oi, yo, amnesia

[Verse 3]
I man tsunami feral, get barreled in other worlds
No hand in sea of pearls, buried in frozen Jheri curls
I man Herzog shooting solitaire
No hands, savoir nova shaka glare Zulu somnambulist lair
Flick of my wrist ouh, shit, ouh, awhoo shit
Phantom lix crude lix, I man island exclusive
Flick of my wrist ouh, shit, ouh, awhoo shit
Flick of my wrist awe shit, aww, I'm not shit

[Outro]
She tune in telly through your shriveled button pressed jaundice yellow
She's your experience, you're her experiment
Her vox limbo fine print in obese sharpie so sorry falsetto
You're her experiment, she's your experience
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Music especially like DG needs music, context of other songs and character of Stefan and so on to make sense. DG seems like an expression of characters of frustration, confusion and usually deemed not just bad but not even worth paying attention to and they do it masterfully I'm.

Analysing their lyrics is like analysing the ramblings of a mad man in the street. It's not the part that's most compelling
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>>8388782
They are actual shit tho, there isn't much to analyze.
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>>8388793
I said try to make a coherent understanding of the lyrics, not give me you two cents of opinion on whether you like the band or not

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