Archived threads in /lit/ - Literature - 3113. page

File: 1452981786450.jpg (61KB, 312x560px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 312x560px

>reading translations

>>8389829
its one of those books that make you realize its fucking amazing only after you've finished it.

I hate to sound like such a pleb but I didn't really get the "point" either. I wasn't sure what I was supposed to feel when the book was over. I never found any dramatic or thematic arcs carried out to conclusion

femdom

>could of
Ya, you're exactly the type of person to complain to everyone about a book like that.

Fifty Shades of Grey: how to draw with charcoal

>>8389820
It depends. Can you read the original language?

>>8389843
Yes the original language of the book is English. I would prefer the Swedish version though but it costs way more (English: 6 pounds, Swedish: 30 pounds) I'm just wondering if there's a difference in the meaning, maybe some things will make more sense in its original language?

>>8389854
There might be some things lost in translation, so I think if you are fluent in the original language of a particular type of media, you'd do well to experience it in its original format. Especially in your case, with that price difference.

That said, you might find it interesting to read the original English, then go to a library and read a Swedish copy, and compare the two.

For me, a spree of brutal rapes

>>8389787
thinking he's special

>>8389787

Basically suffering and quirks. Be sure not to go overboard though. Make sure they are likeable as well. What makes a protagonist likeable? Proactivity, competence and kindness. As for the latter, your character doesn't have to be a goody-two-shoes, but if your sadist blind samurai paid assassin who was bullied growing up and is obsessed with coffee and cherry pie saves the money he earns killing people so he can buy a cure for his young daughter's terrible illness, we can get somewhere while still keeping him "evil".

File: batman.jpg (75KB, 613x579px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 613x579px

No he has literally been scattered, he's Rocketman and the rocket's been sent and he's like its banana peel lying around and that's bio-degradable, baby
Even his dreams haven't come for him

>What happens to Slothrop in "The Counterforce"? The book mentions that he has "broken apart" and all, and it's hard for people to remember him. Since the last coherent Slothrop scene is when you see him in the mountains crying, I assume Slothrop just ended up ditching everything, and what the book meant by him being "broken apart" was the only way people can remember him are through relics and rumors of his wacky antics.
well his mind's been cracking for a while and I think his ultimate fate in the zone is insanity. one could probably argue somethign else, but the evidence is all there, those last pages of him wandering, utterly defeated, chasing his own graffiti messages and forgetting whether or not he sprayed them. the scattering is the scattering of his mental state. the scattershot scenes that follow can be seen as slothrop's broken interior world.
>If the book ended with the 00000 being fired off,
well remember, chronologically it actually got fired off somewhere around halfway through the book, only the scene is put at the end
>what was the 00001 for?
this is a pretty abstract answer for you because i don't think there are any more concrete, the 00001 exists to counterbalance the firing of the 00000. it makes, poetic sense. the schwarzkommando are in their own way a counterforce, so the 00001 is the symbolic rocket of the counterforce.
it is also in a more pragmatic sense, a rallying card for the lost schwarzkommando. it gives them direction and meaning and unity.
>Also, many of the characters in the book acted as if the Schwarzgerat had already been fired off, so were they all simply mistaken?
it already has
>"In the Zone" was probably my favorite part of the book. Are there any other books that have a similar feel to that sort of crazy paranoid wild goose chase?
other pynchon books

hope i've helped some. if you have any more questions i'll try to answer.

>>8389784
You're gonna have to be careful asking /lit about particular events in GR... you might inadvertently expose the fact that most of us haven't read it or know what it's about.

I was trememdously moved by Slothrop crying in the mountains and just "feeling natural," and understood his scattering as his succumbing to the entropy tht drives so many of the plots of the novel. Having lost grip on the paranoia that ordered everything for him, there's nothing left to tie together his experiences, mnowledge, and intuitions. It could suggesta complete psychological breakdown, but I like the notion of someone being lost to chaos and would rather read it liteally, even if it is necessarily fantastical.

Where should I start with Amis? Been meaning to get into him lately because my friend sold him to me as a fun old crotchety fuck.

Lucky Jim maybe?

>>8389778
Amis is one of the writers who was more popular on here in the past. Lucky Jim was mentioned in just about every thread dedicated to humorous novels. I think that stopped because /lit/ is triggered vy academia these days.
That said, I think /lit/ could enjoy some Martin Amis as well.

/lit/ like Kingsley even though he's just a shittier version of maugham

it's his faggot son that we hate

>>8389720
eat something while you read

>>8389736
like a dick.

>>8389720
Dude, I subvocalize like a Tibetian monk.

>>8389708

I owe my mother and father for giving enough of a fuck about me to actually raise me.

>>8389708
Great, I'll just send this .gif to the student loans manager at my bank.

>>8389746

My parents owe me for bringing me into this world without my consent.

Winter Light
Secret Honor
Metropolitan
In a Lonely Place
Certified Copy
Wetherby
Last Night at Maude's

>>8389669
>Last Night at Maude's
uh this isn't a translation i've heard

>>8389674

I mean My Night at Maude's. It was a slip of the mind.

Also interested

None. When two poeple are already in love, they don't need a love potion to confirm it.

I've read Bedier's (quite well-regarded, according to my prof) and it was shit. Frankly I think all those medieval stories are irredeemable genre shit.

>>8389424
because it's out of print and there is high demand for it

I got it for free. If I hadnt, I would have used the library.

File: 4L_GpajJcsY.png (11KB, 420x420px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 420x420px

>>8389445
Intredasting

Yeah

>>8389416
It's where everything refracts into madness and infinity. Is gately dying by resisting the medication with this strange fever dream being what he sees while he dies in the hospital, does he literally wash up on the shore, are they all watching the entertainment, is IJ a book about a movie starring gately, and etc... Think of the two chinks with the two mirrors with gately in between. Really though it's about how whatever you use to escape from life will eat you alive as will the cure. He resists the drugs and it kills him, he accepts the drugs and he goes back on all of the progress hes made. It's not supposed to make sense on purpose

>>8389470
Read the first chapter. Hal refers to Gately, Gately can't be dying since the first chapter is chronologically last.

>>8389413
>caring

War of the Worlds is shit. Saged.

Not a bad idea, but I doubt anyone here will listen.

>>8389349
no you didn't. if you did, you'd be reading the following sentence instead of shitposting.

Just marathoned 8 niggers 4chan tell me about it and memes

i really enjoyed scruton's book on music.
that's not what you asked about, but i felt like saying anyway

Read Scruton's books about conservatism and Russell Kirk's books about the same. You should look into the French counter revolutionaries too, de Maistre, Bonald, Chateaubriand etc.

>>8389306

>Does anyone have suggestions for reading in conservative philosophy?

Yes. Read after ingesting a cupful of strychnine.