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Does timeline/AU fuckery turn you off from a series?

I don't mean works based around time/universe travel, but rather an author publishing multiple works sharing a setting or characters that differ slightly based on some "timeline split"
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I don't really care if each work has something unique to offer.

"canon" is overrated shit anyways. It's better if the work can stand alone.
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It's kind of lazy because it's drawing on existing canon and then only changing a bit is like a book describing its goblins as "basically Tokien's goblins except they're purple".

Multiple works sharing characters or settings is completely fine, but trying to play off of a pre-existing template is cheap and not really indicative of a "good" story because you have to already be established to do it.

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I know you said that you aren't referring to time travel as a whole but god damn are time loops the dumbest shit. "I don't have to explain it because it's always happened this way xD". Just imagine if this approach was taken for literally anything else.
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>>8439023
Timelines, timetravel and AU themes are the worst shit one can ever insert into a genre fiction. Even some fetishistic faggotry would be better. That's because in 99% of the cases existing of the timelines and such imply that either characters created the whole another university, or that the universe is actually multiverse with every single possibility being realised somewhere across it. Both possibilities have extremely far-reaching philosophical and ethical implications, and every single time the author fails to investigate these consequences.

Yes, I am mad.

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Help me out, /lit/

I've got some philosophical ideas I'd like to write down to a book, but my biggest problem is that I have absolutely no idea how to. My question is:
Will I write the book
- as a scientific text
- as a string of essays
- as a continuous essay that branches around
- just burger it up like Tractatus
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>>8438995
>- as a scientific text
Like what? A journal article?

>- as a string of essays
Probably the best, depends what you're writing really

>- as a continuous essay that branches around
Unless you're a phenomenal writer, that's going to be a rambling mess

>- just burger it up like Tractatus
What does that mean?
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>>8438995
>problem is that I have absolutely no idea how to.
>I haven't read any philosophy books but I want to write one
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>>8439053
I mean a scientific text as in an extremely dry text which follows the scientific route of observation before/during/after and then postitions the theory/idea in different lights. For example, see Kauffman's The Origin of Order

I've thought about doing it as a continuous essay. I'll see if it is any good, if not I'll do the book in small parts

>>- just burger it up like Tractatus
>What does that mean?

1. Wittgenstein had aspergers
1.1. Most likely
1.11 Most likely, as in ~p = p
1.2 The statement is meant to be humorous
1.21 But if the reader hasn't read Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, he might think the statement is rude
1.211 Thus it is presumed that the reader has read Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
2. Aaaand.... WHAM! Truth functions hahhahahahaha
2.1 One element
{↑}, {↓}.
Two elements
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Three elements
{ {\displaystyle \lor } \lor , {\displaystyle \leftrightarrow } \leftrightarrow , {\displaystyle \bot } \bot }, { {\displaystyle \lor } \lor , {\displaystyle \leftrightarrow } \leftrightarrow , {\displaystyle \not \leftrightarrow } \not \leftrightarrow }, { {\displaystyle \lor } \lor , {\displaystyle \not \leftrightarrow } \not \leftrightarrow , {\displaystyle \top } \top }, { {\displaystyle \land } \land , {\displaystyle \leftrightarrow } \leftrightarrow , {\displaystyle \bot } \bot }, { {\displaystyle \land } \land , {\displaystyle \leftrightarrow } \leftrightarrow , {\displaystyle \not \leftrightarrow } \not \leftrightarrow }, { {\displaystyle \land } \land , {\displaystyle \not \leftrightarrow } \not \leftrightarrow , {\displaystyle \top } \top }.

>>8439081
I bet Plato read a shitload of books before writing his dialogues

But yeah, that's true. I've only read the books of NEETzsche, Camus, Heidegger and Witty. Any suggestions on the original subject?

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Hey /lit/ I’m looking for a spooky novel. The more macabre and balls-to-the-wall, the better. Something a little Lovecraftian, maybe. I was considering pic related but hear a lot of mixed things about it. Any spooky suggestions?
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"That" by Stephen Queen
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This.
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>>8438961
"Id" by Sigmund Freud

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Any books you consider life-changing? Or all of self-help books are bs?
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Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
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>>8438949
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>>8438943
>Any books you consider life-changing?
Antifragile and a book on aging and food.

Scientific books in particular, namely those on cognitive bias, ecosystems and evolution as well as complex systems. The latter which Taleb the author of antifragile uses to mold and back up his ideas.

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Did I do good? Went to Barnes and Noble and was impressed with their philosophy section.

Seneca - letters from a stoic (I loved meditations so I thought this was the next step)
Satre - existentialism is a humanism (introduction to existentialism I think)
Arthur Schopenhauer - essays and aphorisms (my favorite philosopher after reading a small introduction to him so I thought I would enjoy his work)
Albert Camus - lyrical and essays (maybe my favorite philosopher behind Schopenhauer)

Then some comedy book about philosophers sucking at love and how miserable their love life's were.
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>>8438903
>Went to Barnes and Noble and was impressed with their philosophy section.

Literally every Barnes and Noble I've been to, their philosophy section has been: those shite pop philosophy books, Kant, Kierkegaard, Plato, Nietzche and Ayn Rand.

You must live near a college campus or something.
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>>8438933
>in Finland
>biggest bookstore chain has a "psychology/philosophy" shelf
>almost everything is horrible pop phil/psych, self-help and Sun Tzu
in the middle of it all, in fitting company, I find this
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>>8438946
Violence has been so far the best Zizek I've read aside from perhaps, Demanding the Impossible. It's his most accessible book.

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What's the most boring book you've ever read?

Hard mode: and finished.
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The Fourth Century by Édouard Glissant

fucking flashbacks and stream of consciousness

Give me a purpose
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saving the white race
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>>8438869
Create your own. Not gonna do your job.
Sage
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>>8438869

Destroy as much capital as you can.

Everything I pick up isn't fun to read. I'm sick of picking up so many of these so called classic books or books that people here find enjoyable, and just not feel like I'm connecting to them as a person. I feel like I'm not connecting to them as a person, I feel like so many books aren't actually speaking to me in a way that reflects how I feel inside. I've watched some pretty deep as fuck movies and listening to some pretty profound music, and it was actually very engrossing for me. A lot of books seem tainted by moralism too. I think one book where I actually felt mesmerizingly engrossed in was story of the eye. That feeling of just wanting to subert the whole universe, I felt that same feeling of excitement when I read reading that one part of 1984 Where they're in the woods and the girl is talking about how she hates goodness and purity and doesn't want virtue to exist anywhere, and how having sex is a politically defiant act. And I don't just like books like story of the eye because of the sex, it's something much deeper than that.
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>deep as fuck movies
Name them anon

I liked the painted bird by kosinski
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You're just an edgy teen

I suggest you buy Mein Kampf, 120 Days of Sodom and a lot of Chuck Palahniuk and just get it over with
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>>8438883
>You're just an edgy teen
You're such a fucking idiot it actually hurts me to think people are this stupid.

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Authors/thinkers with whom you disagree, but nonetheless respect?

Pic related. I think Žižek managed to carve out a nice little niche for himself in Western academia/thought/culture, and to his credit I do think he's mostly sincere, even if he doesn't seem like it at times.

Even though a lot of his writing does seem like Hegelian-Lacanian verbiage, I do like to give him the benefit of the doubt and imagine there's some method in the madness. My issue is that when he is speaking with clarity, his 'profound' statements are often pretty obvious in meaning.
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>>8438836
Foucault. You can say he tried.
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>>8438880

Tried what?
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>>8438922
Propose something new which actually matters.

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Thoughts?
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>>8438827
I haven't read the book but when I was in high school that guy came to my school once and rapped in front of us.
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>>8438832
Did they invite him or did he just show up?
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>>8438848
They probably paid him to do it. My school was strange, they kept bringing in all these really progressive speakers to talk to the student body whilst at the same time instructing us in conservative Catholic dogma.

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Meh. I don't get what all the fuss is about.

Perhaps in Homeric Greek it's beautiful, but I cannot judge that. In translation it comes across as just a silly long-winded tale about a folk hero. It's kind of like reading a poem about Elvis getting drafted.
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The poem is as to Einstein's proof of special relativity as your glossing of its surface content for meaning is to a math-illiterate's glossing of Einstein's math for its meaning

>I don't get what all the fuss is about. Just looks like a bunch of symbols to me.

Learn math and come back
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One thing to remember is that it wasn't meant to be read as a book but instead was part of recited oral tradition.
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>>8438792
What are your fav books?

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Alright /lit/erally, I want to increase my reading speed. How can I go about doing this?
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>>8438786
The same way you run faster, swim faster, type faster, play guitar scales faster. By just doing the thing.

But more practically, one thing I did pick up, when having to read texts for information, was to follow lines with a pencil. This seems to focus the eyes on the text and prevent them from straying, or being distracted.

There is another way of reading where the eye is focused on the centre of the page, past the first few words or so. The idea is to read those words peripherally. I have never devoted myself to doing this, but I can see how it could be feasible if it is practised.

Good literature should not be raced through, obviously.
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>>8438786
Unless you're pathetically slow, don't. Rather focus on your ability pay attention to the text.
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>>8438839
Sure but the main purpose is for nonfiction works. Heavy informative writting. (no other book board)

>>8438807
I've been doing some of the tracking you speak of and it definitely helps with the focus. I'm thinking of doing a skim/scan mix because I can see benefits to it.

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What's the /lit/ approved translation of the Iliad?
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>>8438764
Fagles I believe
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fitz or latti
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Proto-Indo-European, or at the very least Sanskrit or Pre-Homeric Greek if you're being casual about it

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I just finished this. Is it worth rereading now or should I wait until I've read the rest in the series to go back to figure out what I missed?
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>>8438574
It's not a "series" at all. It is a single novel, split into four or two volumes.
I've also never seen that cover.
They fucked it up, the illustrator didn't read it.
His chest is bare, he wears a cloak with a hood, a mask and the tip of the sword is sharp because it's a ceremonial executioners sword.
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>>8438587
>autismpuzzlepiece.jpg
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>>8438587
Is his chest bare? at least for most of the first volume it seemed like he was wearing full robes. I know he doesn't wear his mask for most of it either. BUT ok I gather you mean it's a whole rather than a book and it's sequels, and should continue to the next volume.

The copy of Ulysses I have is the Wordsworth edition (dating around 2007), that I got from my dad, it was his copy. Should I buy a different one or should plebsworth do?
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>>8438550
If you were my son, I would beat you.
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>>8438578
He did
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>margaret thatcher

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