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>>8438540

>Even if you disagree, you are still left with the question of why Hegel wrote his work with such a lack of clarity.

Something to do with a shitty contract which pushed him for time.

I think he finished it just as Napoleon came marching in.

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GOD you are boring, you haven't even put in the slightest amount of effort trying to understand it.

There are obvious reasons why Schopenhauer wouldn't like Hegel. He's just so furious that he doesn't feel the need to explain them.

Where Schopenhauer's view of phenomena is strictly representational and divided subject-object, Hegel talks about the necessary interdependency of the subject and object, thus making Schopenhauer's claims about the noumenon, about the whole Will as it relates to our subject, pointless.

Hegel is also a total optimist. The idea of the development of Spirit and man's discovery of God within himself is completely counter to what is inside Schopenhauer's man: the Nothingness of the veil of the Maya. Where Hegel starts with multiple stages of reality that unfold into one another on a path towards Truth, Schopenhauer sees reality as constant and vain. Only the ascetic transcends for Schopenhauer, and when he transcends he actually becomes Nothing.

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>>8438534
Basic guide with some down to earth stylistic advice

here?

>>8438527
here

>>8440871
>>8439027

As in right here on this thread?
I can't see other threads for that purpose

>>8438508
the beginning was captivating but i quickly lost interest once he started talking about his father. i wanted to read incesty stuff and it kind of failed to deliver. probably didn't read long enough.

philip roth is 50/50, sometimes you've got good literary fiction sometimes you've got absolute trash only s new york jew could possibly enjoy

The Holocaust was so bad, it drove a jewish boy to compulsive masturbation.

Really makes you think...

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what is the gondola of literature /lit/?

>>8438495

Kafka on the Shore

>>8438495
Mason and Dixon

>>8438482
Hmm because you grew up in a time reading only pomo quirky books and now your only reference point for realistic and representative fictiion is the tv soap opera and you're unable to recognise that massive gulf in quality between these two things not because you may or may not be a pleb but because you were raised to believe that this kind of fiction this kind of representation was a mugs game for the unintelligent regardless of quality and that "intellectual" """serious""" """"""writers"""""" only write books about idk trout smugglers on the us mexico border called finbar mccool and dr ben anjerry and one day one of the trouts that comes through turns out to be none other than the author himself and then they have to go find a bong or some bullshit that the nazis made in ww2 that gets you high nefore you've even smoked it ooooo or some like bullshit and I like pynchon and havent read wallace but fuck man this is what theyre doing to our youth you need to stop reading modern shit and only read war and peace middlemarch and shit for a couple months

Or maybe its cuz Dostoevsky writes characters that are so melodramatic that a soap opera would be ashamed to have them idk man you figure it out

>>8438502
Is this a Saramago quote? I like the lack of punctuation.

>>8438502
FPBP

What's commonly available is a motley collection of criticism that are more useful as appendages to less abstruse work. Much of the brilliance that informs his stories tends to be absent in his nonfiction. He knew that in writing for periodicals he had to lower the quality of his composition. Unfortunately he did not revise or otherwise improve on them. Humor and satire is expanded on where it is not needed, especially for that Homer essay where he recommends all the translations commonly read in his time, which is an essentially true suggestion, but due to his cheeky manner in relating it, failed to attractively lay the path of reasoning why this is so. Thus it can be inferred he did not find that having universal appeal would be necessary in his nonfiction, being merely a way to support himself to further his studies, stories, and above all, his poetry, as he has related in biographical material.

Overall his nonfiction was quite competent, and he remains a model as a critic, but his essays tended to lack the clarity that would have cemented them as permanent fixtures to complement his stories.

>>8438405
Casares and Ocampo were disappointing to finally read. I had higher expectations, but I won't put Argentina out of the count in the near future.

>>8438514
Yes, aside from Morel most everything I've read from them suggests that they're that kind of unexceptional writer that gives little thought and gets forgotten as soon as they pass away, only periodically remembered by their association with Borges and people's taste for more obscure cultural artifacts.

Bait? Its a very technical book. Won't better your creativity or talent.

>>8438386
It has a lot of good advice on sentence structure and editing and such. It's worth reading at least once.

>>8438386

Is being technical bad? It's very helpful to keep in mind common grammar and vocab mistakes. And most of the stylistic advice just boils down to "write clearly," which certainly would help you better express yourself and hone your storytelling talent.

>>8438372
>Must you whore yourself in social media and the like to even get it published?
Probably, but even then the chances are extremely slim. The vast, vast majority of submissions to publishers (or agents, as a first step) are turned down, because millions of people are writing books all the time.

Unless you mean self-publishing ebooks, in which case the publishing part is easy but to actually sell any, yes, you'd need to promote it, for obvious reasons.

>Does the average author make a dime?
Hell no. See
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/20/earnings-authors-below-minimum-wage
>17% of all writers did not earn anything at all during 2013, said the ALCS, adding that 98% of those authors had published a work every year from 2010 to 2013

No.

No one reads modern books because they are mostly shit.

The funny thing is that the only authors making money now are the same that were making money 50 years ago.

>>8438393

>your post
>andy weir

It doesn't really matter, Camus isn't a great prose writer

>>8438370

Nah. Not missing much.

Depends on how you prefer the opening line "aujourd'hui, maman est mort"

-Mother died today.
-Maman died today.
-Today, Maman died.

>>8438322
i'm trying to think of literary references in weezer but the only two things that come to mind are "on the road with kerouac" (from "holiday") and pinkerton being influenced by the play madame butterfly.

>>8438322

The only references AFI have that I can think of are to Baudelaire and Malleus Malleficarum.

Gregory and the Berrycones is pretty great, I'll admit.

>What's stopping me from developing my own literary-critical theories
Your lack of talent and intellectual aptitude.

>>8438280
*fall under

>>8438281
Jesus fuck I thought *I* was pretentious
I'm going back to /his/

Greeks inc. Plotinus, Bible, Corpus Hermeticum, Gnostic Gospels and Kabbalah texts (Zohar, Sepher Yetzirah etc.) before you get into the other shit

the essence for all occultism is occultism

you're welcome, brother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGET540S05U

just use the discord

>>8438261
Discord is for plebs

>>8438245
>telegram

doesn't it require your phone number to work?

Possibly. Have you read Juvenal?

>>8438235
No but you're rejecting liberalism slowly. It's important to not replace an ideological cage with another and call it change tho

>>8438235
>which is undoubtedly worse on all accounts
...they watched people kill each other for fun.