>Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.
"They" mean what by this?
if you hit yourself with a hammer it's going to hurt
An easy way for idiots to look at every one of life's failures and missteps as a kind of progress. It really means you can't grow without pain, but normies put the cart before the horse, and fit every single hardship into a kind of beneficial experience so that they will remain locked in a samsara of actually vain and empty breakdowns.
>>8442814
wow so cool
It's really an amazing book guys, Tolstoy really goes out of his way to show the humanity of every character. There are no "bad guys", just people who have their own individual flaws. Everyone inherently wants what is good, they are just confused and fickle or somewhat selfish. They are all a victim of themselves, rather than simply the criminals.
Please no dost vs tolstoy, we don't have to compare them every thread, just wanna discuss how good Tolstoy is at creating characters.
>>8442783
I prefer the Brothers Karamazov
This is the higher enlightenment, Anon. It's when you overcome your teenage nihilist outlook of the world in which everyone is only out for themselves. Reading Tolstoy is taking the blue pill: it's realizing the inherent well-meaning and goodness in people, and being overwhelmed with empathy for all. This is the humanitarian path.
Sadly, most 4channers (see /pol/ or /r9k/ for example) never get to this stage, but are stuck in their teenage ways of seeing everything as black and white and not looking for any complexity. They see the world from toddler logic essentially:
>he said a mean thing, he is a mean person
>>8442783
I can never get over the feeling that Tolstoy is searching for some answer he never found. I'm not criticizing anything about his books but that is the feeling I get whenever I read anything from him. A kind of deeply melancholic despair/confusion masked by enormous intelligence and understanding
I've been wanting to read more of the Dharma and about Buddhism. I picked up "Buddhist Texts Through the Ages" from my local used bookstore. Is it any good? What else should I read to become more familiar with Buddhism?
>>8442750
Why would you want to?
Just read the Pali canon. Everything else is too steeped in culture to approach without being orientalist.
>>8442750
Heart Sutra and Diamond Sutra are the most widely read primary texts. Red Pine has a great translation of the Heart Sutra. Platform Sutra is also good (IMO).
I can go anywhere in the world. Which would be the place to visit?
>Inb4 not lit
>>8442664
Spain
Read Proteus on Sandymount Straight, read Benjy in Mississippi, read Quixotes windmills in Toledo, read Pickwick in Surrey and Borges in the Pampas. Read Lowry in Mexico and Nadja in Paris.
>>8442676
Why would I go somewhere just to read? That wasn't the question
What are some "high brow" poems about sex?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GpT6ycHoMA
Based John Donne
The Flea
Mark but this flea, and mark in this,
How little that which thou deniest me is;
It sucked me first, and now sucks thee,
And in this flea our two bloods mingled be;
Thou know’st that this cannot be said
A sin, nor shame, nor loss of maidenhead,
Yet this enjoys before it woo,
And pampered swells with one blood made of two,
And this, alas, is more than we would do.
Oh stay, three lives in one flea spare,
Where we almost, nay more than married are.
This flea is you and I, and this
Our mariage bed, and marriage temple is;
Though parents grudge, and you, w'are met,
And cloistered in these living walls of jet.
Though use make you apt to kill me,
Let not to that, self-murder added be,
And sacrilege, three sins in killing three.
Cruel and sudden, hast thou since
Purpled thy nail, in blood of innocence?
Wherein could this flea guilty be,
Except in that drop which it sucked from thee?
Yet thou triumph’st, and say'st that thou
Find’st not thy self, nor me the weaker now;
’Tis true; then learn how false, fears be:
Just so much honor, when thou yield’st to me,
Will waste, as this flea’s death took life from thee.
>>8442476
>What are some "high brow" poems about sex?
Sappho of Lesbos. Most of her writing is literally about being in love and fucking women.
Why do we need philosophy and theology again ?
>>8442459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GpT6ycHoMA
We needed it to avoid degeneration of culture but that was ruined by relativists
>>8442469
Then fixed again by Plato
but once again destroyed by Millenials, though this spread of relativist cancer has been a recurring theme ever since Bloom wrote his Closing of the American Mind
Are there any books that help someone love or at least accept themselves?
I have so much self hatred that I daydream about violently chopping my own head off and whenever I see a mirror I get mad to the point of seeing my veins throbbing.
Go see a shrink, psycho.
Reading books won't cure you.
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GpT6ycHoMA
>>8442448
There are billions of subhuman normies in this world who don't hate themselves
Why do people like us should, my good man?
How feasible is it to read a book like being and time or critique of pure reason or thus spoke zarathustra or the world as will and representation or the republic or phenomenology of spirit, without any supplementary material?
>>8442418
near impossible in terms of what you will get out of it. Though The Republic and Thus Spoke are easier to grasp than say Being and Time or Phenomenology of Spirit. Luckily there is a plethora of secondary literature or lectures that are easily obtainable through the internet.
The chances of you missing more than at least 50% of the info is quite high
>>8442492
This is good insight. Is there a chart or a website that will help guide me through the appropriate supplementary material, so I don't have to keep asking people?
>>8442492
>near impossible in terms of what you will get out of it.
Spoken like a true pleb.
Think about it. Every reputable book was at one point read by those without any supplementary material, some of whom no doubt went on to write the supplementary material you plebs rely on.
Redpill me on pic related please.
its a book
>>8442445
redpill me more
>>8442460
good book?
Anyone want to tell me why this isn't in the meme trilogy despite being a million times funnier than Don Quixote?
>>8442381
>he thinks Don Quixote is about being funny
leave this board
>>8442385
>he doesn't think humour is the essence of being
The tutor story was funny but the whole thing is far too fragmented to be considered better than anything. There's only like two complete chapters. Not worth it desu.
This was incredible, I was deeply moved by this book. I want to go deeper.
>>8442366
Read the Dhammapadda.
>>8442366
read about actual buddhism, not an western appropriation of it
Can someone have a very vivid imagination and be dumb? Is imagination linked to intelligent, or at least correlated?
>>8442316
Imagination and intelligence are not correlated.
Look at the amount of devianart fanfiction. It's all pretty imaginative, but at the same time autistic and poorly written.
Walter Mitty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Darger
Maybe he was just unedeucated, rather than unintelligent
Why did he kill himself? Nigga could have lived long enough to see himself be a legend.
>>8442288
>legend
>>8442294
How I met your mother was huge
i agree what a dumbass
Are there any books about butt sex? I am interested it the phenomenon and how it affects humanity.
>>8442240
your mother's diary
>>8442240
My diary desu
Not whole books but several classical authors have parts where they state buttsex is pretty bad and instead intercrural is the way to go. Also true love can only exist between men and women are only to be used to produce children for the city state, preferably while staying locked inside the house.
How do I pay attention to a book when I have ADHD?
Take your meds.
>>8442235
By shitposting on 4chan.
What was your question again?
>>8442235
Does herbal tea help?