Which Lovecraft stories are worth reading /lit/?
So far I've only read Call of Cthulhu
I thought that Shadow over Innsmouth was pretty fun.
>>8436846
The Horror in the Museum
The Rats in the Walls is pretty good imo
How would a video game be made that is on par with literature?
Movies, music ,books and games can all be enjoyed without stories; movies for their visuals, music for their melodies, books for their prose and games for their game mechanics(gameplay).
But films, books and music are all enhanced by a (good) story. So why is video games the exception? Why are 90% of video games extremely mediocre, have great gameplay but piss story or great story but next to none gameplay?
The last of us was a great story, I watched my brother play it and was sucked in and enjoyed it so much. But I can admit the gameplay absolutely sucked ass. Just a generic cover shooter. Like the equivalent of jrpgs, except it tlou had a well written story.
Music can have a great story and a good melody, films can have great visuals and good story, books can have great prose and good story so I ask again. Why can't video games have great gameplay and a good story?
I don't believe it's impossible for a video game to be more than fun.
>>8436844
Best I've seen so far are two models: the 2D Zelda model and the Tactics model.
2D Zelda model: mostly gameplay, but a cast of supporting characters who are eccentric enough around you where you grow somewhat attached to them anyways. Especially Link's Awakening and Oracle of Ages. Literary? No, but more literary than most comic books which is a good starting point.
Tactics: Final Fantasy Tactics, some Final Fantasy numeral games, Fire Emblem. Large cast of characters who interact with each other in a linear game with chance for deviation from the story. e.g. Fire Emblem, story is linear but characters will form bonds in the game with real, human dialogue between them based on how much you use them together. Literary? No, but a start.
A literary game would pick one of these WORKING models and simply make a more intellectual story, with story more integrated into the game actions, rather than just "kill the boss".
The fact these two classes of games actually do leave an emotional impact on the player shouldn't be ignored. It can surely be taken much further.
>>8436870
(oh and also maybe Majora's Mask -- the other 3D zeldas leave an emotional impact but the reasons feel to be different, such as from an overbearing story or cute chibi art style)
>>8436844
Movies can enhance, underline, and expand the story with visuals, and similar for the other mediums. It's artful when a book's prose, its rhythm or diction, affects the reader in a way that's connected to the story.
Games need to have a good link between story and gameplay. However video games seem to be terrible at linking the two. Most games, to tell a story, push it along by just stopping the gameplay and playing a cutscene or having the player read ingame text. Then it stops being a game and then you just get bored wonder why the creator didn't just write a story or make a movie.
Give me some read-worthy literature about ancient Rome. Anything that is not utter shit goes.
Satyricon
>>8436772
Augustus by J. Williams
Obligatory
What's the best book to read while suffering from the consequences of a Xanax addiction because you're on eight different medications for depression and anxiety not including a beta blocker to calm your heart, while suffering from alcoholism, because everything in your mind body and soul hurt and you're one day away from suicide.
Why in god's name are you on eight different medications?
Your psychiatrist out to lose his license. Speaking of which go to the hospital.
>>8436707
*ought
>>8436707
Let's see. Lexipro. Xanax. Quetiapine. Gabapentin. Metoprolol ER. Adderall. Xyzal.Clonazepam.
That doesn't include the booze.
Your advice is go to the hospital. How do you think I ended up in this position. Two of them aren't from my psychiatrist however.
Post books, that should be burned!
>>8436683
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THIS IS NOW A RIDDLE THREAD
What goes on four legs in the morning, on two legs at noon, and on three legs in the evening?
>>8436721
the human
next one sphinx
Pulp by Charles Bukowski.
retarded tropes in fiction
>Africa will be a technological superpower in the near future
Are you sure the topic isn't
>things that jeopardize OP's fragile sense of whiteness
>>8436664
Well the West is killing itself, Japan's population is dwindling, China and India are completely broken, and the Muslims who are going to be replacing most of the world are about as Luddite as you can possibly be. So Africa and South America are really the only places left.
>>8436694
Canada and New England are doing fine.
Any screenwriters out there?
>>8436627
Here? No
There are a bunch of faggots with Microsoft word documents willing to call themselves screenwriters though
>>8436640
kek
>>8436627
Post passages
It wouldn't allow anything unoriginal content like:
- communism, Marx, Zizek and so on
- egoism and Max Stirner and so on
- Ayn Rand and so on
- John Green and so on
- Nietzsche and so on
- potential edgy literature such as Schopenhauer, Machiavelli and so on
- commonly popular books and so on
- the Greeks are absolutely forbidden except for the obscure known ones and so on
Etc.
It is of course not going to happen but I am tired of seeing the same content over and over on /lit/.
Whatever such a board would function remains to be seen of course.
Discuss.
Yeah, because it totally works out on /r9k/ right?
Just go to a different place, jesus christ.
>>8436555
so basically /r9k/ in its common state
>>8436558
>Yeah, because it totally works out on /r9k/ right?
I know this and described it. You cannot know before hand what happens.
>Just go to a different place, jesus christ.
I expected butthurt and was prepared. Using our savior Jesus Christ in vain was not expected however and equally disturbing.
That makes me wonder whatever Christian theology should be allowed or not.
Thanks for the contribution anyway, it wasn't particularly good but expected.
What does /lit/ think of my infinite jest poster/book cover/ idk what it is I just made it for fun. If you read the book do you think it's a good image that portray IJ? Even if you did not read it, do think it's a decent design?
I ushaly leark on /ic/ but I love to read and was wondering what you guys think.
is this supposed to be bait?
if this is serious your cover is not bad not good and probably nobody here gives a shit
>>8436546
New fags can't triforce
Here's a lino cut I did of virginia woolf
I missed out on the Infinite Jest Book Club at the beginning of the summer, where can I make a irl book club with a bunch of other autists/super-normies.
Should I just wait for next summer for the next IJ book club on here?
I own four copies of this book, and I can prove it.
>>8436537
prove it
i own zero copies of this book, but can't prove it
>tfw to intelligent to read
>tfw too intelligent to be a feels poster
>>8436509
>tfw to intelligent to read
>to intelligent to read
>to intelligent
>to
yeah, we believe you
>>8436509
fucks sake mate at least get your spelling right
sheesh
Hello /lit/, I'm a college freshman and I'm taking a literature class and the teacher had us read The Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.
We have to write a paper and answer the prompt "Discuss and examine [...] Marlow’s misguided patriarchal tendencies and how those tendencies create tension"
I personally didn't think the book had much to do with his "patriarchal tendencies"
Am I going to a shit college?
>>8436495
>patriarchal
There's like two female characters in the entire novel
>>8436495
If this is a real question and it is the only question you're allowed to write on. Then yes you're at a meme college consider transfering immediately
>>8436495
this is bait right? If not, get the fuck out of that course or university. Funny enough I had to read the same book for my obligatory Postcolonial Studies course. Needless to say me and a few other class mates weren't too thrilled having to endure a topic that didn't have room for opposing views.
I'm learning a language and trying to read stuff in the original, but I keep getting bogged down by vocabulary and thinking about how I'd probably get just as much if not more out of a translation. Any recommended ways to mentally prepare oneself for reading foreign stuff slowly and confidently?
>>8436442
maybe find something with parallel text? then the translation is right there and you don't need to keep looking up words you don't know.
>>8436442
One common mistake is start reading stuff in the target language too late or neglect vocabulary until they find themselves incapable of reading literature for adults.
Memrise/anki are great resources for vocabulary expansion. They're not perfect, but another common mistake is wasting more time researching resources than actually learning.
Watch movies, listen to music, set your devices language and everything to the target language.
Buy a pocket size dictionary and keep on reading until the struggle is gone.
>>8436453
>you don't need to keep looking up words you don't know.
That's how you learn languages though.
You read something after you established a limited vocabulary while you keep expanding your understanding of the grammar and when you come upon a word you don't know you look it up and remember it and all it's conjugations and what not
Has anyone always wanted to write, but felt like you'd be shit at it so you never bothered?
I've wanted to be a writer ever since I learned to read, but I've always felt like I've never had the chops. Even just saying "writer" makes me feel like a pretentious douchenozzle. All I want to do is write a book and see it on a bookstore or library shelf. I don't even care if no one reads it.
>>8436399
You'll never publish anything if you don't start writing. Remember that even the great writers get rejected.
>Write a book
>Get a vanity press to make a few copies
>Sneak one into the literature section at your local bookstore
Bonus points if you explain what you did in the afterword and provide contact info
>>8436460
This but do it through Amazon/createspace instead of a standard vanity press because it's cheaper that way.
So I'm helping my girlfriend teach a SF book to her high school honors class. These are 10th graders going into AP next year so they should be able to handle most things.
I'm looking for any assistance /lit/ might be willing to provide in terms of the lesson plans, exploration of themes, literary devices, etc.
Here's a link to the presentation on SF in general, any comments or recommendations are appreciated.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QHeNS4AZp5ySlntINxqPEqDm7RNSdMcWFDSVKgdAgFc/edit?usp=sharing
The book in question is Blindsight by Peter Watts. It's a hard SF book that's been very well-received and it's under a creative commons license so that's helpful.
Here's the presentation for the book itself. We want to kind of "hold their hands" insofar as some of the crazier science goes so as to make this more digestible. SF can be intimidating so we're trying to eliminate that factor and let them just explore the ideas, themes, and the work itself as literature without having to worry too badly with the science of the fiction.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sBYWAJfVF4r8PL3c4lX82Cb3KmSu1Ga9z5GbS2qKvHE/edit?usp=sharing
Let's hear it, /lit/! This is a grand experiment for a high school class. We're in touch with the author and he's going to be assisting us and talking with the kids as a special treat.
I really want to roll out the proverbial red carpet to introduce these students to SF so any recommendations on that front would also be appreciated.
waaaay too many words on each slide. pare that shit down.
>>8436383
Science fiction, unlike most other literary movements is much less homogenous, insofar that it is more different literary traditions which later on branch and mix with other ones.
So you'll have to divide it into sections, early age, golden age, new wave and science fiction since unrelated to any particular movement.
It's also important to note that most of it is absolute trash and it is important not to focus on bad works a lot of them are going to read anyway.
Science fiction is probably the least intimidating movement in literature because most famous works are very easy to read and comprehend.
Blindsight also seems like a very bad place to start, considering it is new and has very little importance or impact.
Your students aren't retards and if they are, there is little point in simplifying it for them because they will stay the ignorant bunch they were anyway. Pick something short like a novella which dips into the larger pool of influences and literary value.
Fifth Head of Cerberus will be a great introduction to the best of science fiction and will make them familiar with techniques and styles of other novels, such as unreliable first person narration, importance of symbolism, overarching and meta narratives and so on.
>>8436419
Blindsight was chosen because it's an important modern work of hard SF. It's almost as scientifically-rigorous as SF can be. As to its influence, it's been huge in the field of neurobiology and explores some of the more disturbing themes in SF, crossing over with Lovecraftian cosmic horror pretty well.
As to sections, we're more focusing on it as modern lit- so we're thinking of touching on themes prevalent in various decades rather than walking them through Shelley and Verne on to H.G. Welles and then the pulps.
We do want to focus on its intersection with other kinds of literature though, giving examples in lecture.
>>8436418
Slides are more for homework, so students can get a general intro by reading through them and viewing the links. They're not for actual lecture so much as homework.