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>>8434859
Are you implying he doesn't already

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Zizek-posting was the best desu.

The board isn't nearly smart enough.

There are maybe ten posters max who can read three Zizek paragraphs in a row without short circuiting.

Haven you even looked at the other threads up right now?

You could maybe get some hack like Sam Harris, maybe.

It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect anon.

>>8434834
He's not wrong but he's using the wrong definition of morals/morality

So he's still stupid but there's a context in which he would be correct

>>8434852
He is wrong either way. Ethics is simply the philosophical study of morality.

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>>8434826
>thinking there is such thing as a literary genius that isn't widely regarded and published within their field/genre

Ha
Ha
You amuse me

>>8434826
ikr

That does sound hard, have you considered suicide?

>>8434811
It was fun for what it was but I can see why some people hated it. Things like Jack sardonically remarking on how "literary" what he was doing towards the end was might be way too "cute" for a lot of people to stomach.

beautiful book, one of the main criticisms that people make-- that dellilo's dialogues are a little slanted and awkard-- was something I never quite understood. When you watch a Cohen Bros. or Tarantino film, the dialogue is obviously and delightfully stylized; it becomes part of the book's central message and overall mood.

There are certain parts of this book that always stand out to me. Where we have the main character (whatever the fuck his name was) seeing the outline of his father-in-law during sunrise and the scene with the main character and his son watching a house burn down.

Didn't like it. Overwrought, too on the nose, melodramatic.

>>8434802
OC INCOMING
There once was a fag from New York
Who fucked his asshole with a fork
all the while he cried
until he finally died
all for his ex boyfriend Bjork

there once was a thing called a v2
to pilot you just did not need to
you just pushed a button
and it didn't leave nuttin
but destruction and death and debris too

>>8434948
>>8434915
>>8434802
>There once
>There once
>There once

Can't we be a bit more creative than that?

>>8434789
He was brainwashed into believing in the party. Orwell probably chose that ending because it might've been more frightening than him just dying. Also in practical terms, a brainwashed stooge is more useful than a corpse.

Why would the party bother killing him if they can reprogramme his mind? The second is much more horrifying.

>>8434789
They didn't kill him because they didn't need to. They'd won an even greater victory over him; they'd broken his spirit and his mind.

Just as bad as the bible, if not worse

Isnt this literally Ayn Rand + ""magick ;))""?

Didn't really

The Elegance of the Hedgehog

>Till We Have Faces - C. S. Lewis
Retelling of the myth of Psyche and Cupid. i haven't reread it since high school but it was probably one of the first books that really blew me away. Lewis considered it his best work...so do I.

>Coriolanus - William Shakespeare
Really "tight" but powerful play IMO. Coriolanus as a character was striking and kind of divisive for me. You kind of hate him, relate to him(and thus appreciate him), and avoid accepting that you relate to him all at the same time. Gets at something about power, not-belonging-anywhere-ever, and magnetic draws between people that I loved. "There is a world elsewhere..."

Fifty Shades of Grey

Fifty Shades of Grey Fifty Shades of Grey

Fifty Shades of Grey Fifty Shades of Grey Fifty Shades of Grey

yeah a genre trash novel tells me nerds blow, real insightful

>>8434707
I read it when I was stuck on recycle status in Ranger school- basically confined to a large room with several other guys with nothing to do but read and play board games for days on end.

It was okay. The 80s references were fun even as a 90s child. The plot was nothing special but it moved things along. The forced inclusivity, along with the "what a tweest!" ending inclusivity were pretty jarring.

Overall I'd say it was slightly worse than Mocking Jay which I read at the same time.

>>8434825
I think it's a decent appraisal of an interest, pandering as it may be.

nig...what do you mean you "finished" it. that volume you posted has kept me busy for a year. I had to start over and write shit down because it had too many things I needed to remember.

and its not even something you can condense so ive pretty much been copying paragraphs at a time. Its too much...its like you get half way through an idea thinking its the most earth shattering thing only to have him push it even further before the conclusion.

Nietzsche to me is the most valuable philosopher because he satisfies the people who know better than to fall for some completed idea. Its just not possible, he manages to capture a thing (truth) by it constantly eluding him.

Every time i read his work i count myself as the luckiest person in the world, just for being born after he was.

>>8434643
>George Bataille
inb4ed by OP. A good serving of Nietzsche in The Inner Experience also (on The Gay Science, IIRC)

>>8434694
I'm not quite done, but you're right, there's a ton to keep up with. A lot of the time I also take notes when I read, but with this my goal was just to give it a read and get the exposure, and I've also been looking for some particular conversations. But it's definitely something I'll come back to more than once in the future.

But I know those Nietzsche feels anon. I think Jaspers speaks to what you're saying in the section "The Circle"
>Nietzsche's thoughts about truth, since they deny what is required for their formulation, must run into incessant contradictions. Such thoughts would be nothing more than a nonsensical confusion, did they not enable us to experience limits that can be revealed only indircetly. When the concepts which his theory of truth generates attain these limits, we experience the fulfillment of the kind of thinking that unavoidably uses even contradictions as indirect indicators. His theory is not a theory about a given state of affairs; it is a philosophical means of expressing first the existential appeal to the essential truth born by essential life and, second, the possibility of a life-transcending intimate awareness of being.

I don't know how far you've gotten, but it might be worth plowing through if you can.

>>8434601
The Social Contract

>>8434785

kek

>>8434601

Secular humanist or spiritualist?

After Virtue - Alasdair MacIntyre

>>8434589
only the beginning of the end.

>atheist materialism

You mean materialism?

And no, it's just the death of metaphysics.

also if you believe it is not, please give me literature that is convincing other wise. sorry but atheist materialism is depressing as fuck

>>8434506
Don't be a virtue signaling brown-noser and just say what needs to be said, even if people won't like it.

>>8434568
How does that mean that? And how can you tell someone to say what they ought not to say? Isn't that contradictory? "You ought to say what you ought not to say."

>>8434571
The line basically denounces that there is anything that you really "ought" to say. Who decides what you "ought" to do? It's saying that you shouldn't bow to some false external construct that you know in your heart is wrong.

>>8434465
Lolita

Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince

>>8434465
Try Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Virginia Woolf.

http://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/playboy.htm

>>8434453
I read an old one from like the 70s or some shit out of curiosity a year ago when I saw an acquaintance of mine had some laying around. Even then the nudes were really softcore and didn't do much for me. The stories weren't anything special either, at least not in that issue.

It has interesting interviews to some good authors (including the last interview to Bolaño).