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The answer is of course no.
PL is mostly read in anglo circles while Comedy has such a degree of universality that it has had a far greater influence and touches more people.

they're both good you dip literature isnt a competition you autistic fuck

>>8454625
I dunno anon, the story of Paradise Lost seems a lot more universal and moving than a dainty Italian mamma-miaing his way through hell

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Do you live in South Carolina by any chance?

>>8454608
lost in the funhouse

Cirque du freak

Who dat?

>>8454558
he's right though

>>8454560
Paulo Coelho

>reading for the plot
lmao

>>8454533
I'm about 100 pages in right now, and it's a nit of a slog. They don't focus on The Man from Mars at all, which is a shame, because when they do I like it.

is any scifi good?

>"manly" beard
>nude torso
>huge as fuck gun
>compensating this hard
do you think Hemingway had the smallest dick of all time?

>>8454510
>not understanding that Hemingway's attempts to achieve a masculine ideal are essential to the psychological and aesthetic content of his writing
You probably shouldn't try Mishima if this simple concept is too hard for you.

>>8454522

>You probably shouldn't try Mishima if you aren't as a gargantuan faggot as I am

Duly noted.

Nothing?

It's okay with the slightly interesting spin that it was written before 1984.

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> "The way I like to make my chicken breasts is quite simple. There is the normal way, and, my friends, the cultured way. Shakespeare once said, "you are what you eat." And I'm not a chicken breast. So I have to make sure that I'm eating something far more masculine. What I do is this. I freeve the chicken breast until it is solid, and then I drink a few cups of water. Then I pee all over the breast: it is actually sterile, and warms the outside while giving the center a rock hard core. The outside represents the male ego, steamy and sterile, sterilized by an even feminized society. The center is the male id -- cold, hard, determined. This becomes an icon of my very being: and then I must eat it. But the outer layer is still quite wet, so I use the male body's natural napkin, the scrotum, as a drying agent. This is because like any self affirmed male, I respect my natural Dasein. The chicken breast is now at the crossroads between food and thought: and while some might take the fork in the road and eat the breast, I choose to watch it for a while before consumption. It is cold, it is perfect, it is Me."

Is he, dare I say it, our guy?

>>8454429
I doubt he really wrote this, but if he did, why do hate him? That was great.

>Mrs Hazel Grace Lancaster ate with relish the inner organs of beasts and fowls. She liked thick giblet soup, nutty gizzards, a stuffed roast heart, liverslices fried with crustcrumbs, fried hencods' roes. Most of all she liked grilled mutton kidneys which gave to her palate a fine tang of faintly scented urine.

Ulysses
the sound and the fury

Brave New World sucks but it's relatively easy. I think there are a lot of different types of good prose, so it's tough to say. If you want something easy with good prose, maybe try Big Sur by Jack Kerouac. But it's not good in a traditional way, really.

A la recherche du temps perdu
Pnin
The Magic Mountain

>>8454414
Practice son

Read a Steven King book. Not like that.

Read aloud the words you write

Read out loud the stuff you write

That's what planning is for.

You map out how everything in your book is going to play out, and the actual novel is just expanding on those key themes, ideas, and the plot.

At least, that's how I do it.

>>8454387
I suck at big structures. I can only write short stories. I published a book last year, a collection of those stories, and now I struggle with writing a novel. It's a real pain in the ass.

>'We don't need to be the men our grandfathers were'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trsIcv3hWI4

oh wow, another non-reader faggot with his hot opinions

>>8454343
the only good book by her is "on being ill"

She is one of my favorite writers. When I read her characters I feel like she understands me and humans as a whole.

Btw Dosto is a claptrap journalist

>>8454275
How long have you been here?

I put all of my best writing into Hypersphere.

>frogposting
I think the problem might be more on your end.

>>8454222
all shit

>>8454225
>one of the most important ancient texts is shit

>>8454247
you are a faggot

it's like he's on a mission to destroy

>>8454198
It's shit to begin with so who cares?

>>8454198
His adaptation of Child of God was great though. I trust Franco with McCarthy.

>>8454159
I'm reading the edited Montcrieff translation recently published by Yale. It has minor corrections made to the original Montcrieff but it doesn't differ much. There are supplementary notes on most pages that are usually historical, biographical, or point out major themes, but I've found most of these to be distracting and unnecessary to the enjoyment/comprehension of the work.

Honestly just go to whatever library/bookstore where you live that has multiple translations and compare passages for yourself to see which one has what you're looking for. It's pretty obvious, when you compare them side by side, to what degree authors translate for simplicity, accuracy, style, etc. So put in the effort and make an intelligent choice for yourself. If you're going to read Proust I assume you're more than capable of doing that.

>>8454159
montcrieff - do not do lydia davis no matter what these memers say

Lydia Davis translation is more readable and accurate. i've read both versions