Did anyone here "grow out of philosophy"?
I mean philosophy in the sense that you seek some permanent knowledge/intellectual satisfaction/confidence by reading and contemplating.
Because it all seems like an endless pit and there's always more stuff to read and contemplate. And it almost certainly doesn't make you happier/confident or more "useful" to society.
(And that's the gist, I guess. Happiness and "usefulness to society" being some fundamental axioms for me.)
In other words, I believed in the power of philosophy too much and ended up realizing that it's just one of the areas of life, not necessarily superior to anything else, but just another path (I hate the life path metaphor, but you get the point).
I think I finally get the mocking/contempt that normie adults showed towards philosophy. I used to think they're just uneducated simpletons (ok, there's some truth there), but I can empathize with them now.
>>8449691
Sounds like you just aren't into philosophy, my man.
What you're saying isn't accurate or even very intelligent.
>>8449691
>turns into absolute simpleton
>wants us to award him
>>8449691
Sorta, but in a different way, and only after starting from Plato and following the historical Western philosophy path all the way to 20th century and forming a very rigorous and comprehensive Weltanschuung
Wittgenstein made me realize that unless we stick to an extremely rigorous language and assume as few axioms as possible in philosophy, we're essentially doing baseless conjecturing. I found myself reading the likes of Heidegger, Sartre and Foucault with extreme scepticism and distrust as a result. My thoughts didn't change much then and I'm extremely glad I didn't study philosophy at uni.
Will Scotland ever give birth to another Jimmy J?
It's not even funny though...
Is there any ending in literature more poignant than Molly McBloom's soliloquy?
>Ah wiz a floor a thuh moun'inz aye whin ah pit thuh rose in ma hair lit thuh andaloosian gurls ustae uhr wull ah wear a rid aye n how he pull't me unner thuh moorush wull n ah thought tae masell wull uhs wull hum as uhnnothuhr n then ah askit uhm wuh mah eyes tae ask uhgin aye n ehn he askt me wooda aye tae say aye mah moun'in flowr n fuhrst ah poot mah arrums roon uhm aye n drew uhm doon tae me soes he kid feel mah tits aw perfoom n 'aht aye n his heart wuz goin lit mad n aye ah sid aye ah wull Aye.
Yeats was pretty good 2bh
Does Christianity have the deepest lore when it comes to fantasy world building?
No, that's Judaism, dumb goyposter
honestly of all the religions the abrahamic ones are the most boring. compared to hindu or greek gods it's pretty weak
Judaism easily, easily takes the cake. The entire Tanakh, all of the Midrashim and Oral Torah, traditions and traditional stories, commentaries, and the plethora of interpretations of each. Christianity is a wannabe cuck religion that is just "muh I'm not Le Jewish because they probably poison our wells and have horns" which is ironically just nu-Judaism
How much IQ do you need to reach the genius writer level?
>>8449495
I recall reading that most great writers aren't genius-level smart, just above average. Pynchon supposedly has a 190 and you can definitely tell he is more intelligent than most writers.
>>8449495
>How much IQ
more than you
>>8449506
I never really got this statement. Is it because he references scientific things? Is it the maximalist style that seems to mirror fast thought? To me, the genius of literature is shown more in the depth of thought within the book itself. Not to say that Pynchon isn't a deep thinker, especially in Gravity's Rainbow, but I'm not sure how his style is reflective of a special superhuman intelligence unknown to other writers.
Are there any books/philosophers that predicted the millennial phenomenon?
>>8449477
Society of the Spectacle
>>8449477
>the millennial phenomenon
Go back to facebook and post about how the millennials are all so lazy and attached to their gameboys
>>8449481
Actually, I am only a vidya and anime addict.
MAGA
hey /lit/.
should i major in literature? what are the pros and cons? can anybody give me advice based on experience?
>>8449473
do you want to see your wife be blacked infront of your eyes? Take a humanities class
Want to be self-fulfilled, succesful, confident and flourishing? Take a STEm
>>8449473
why can't you dumb fucks ever just double major? Humanities majors are ridiculously easy compared to most other STEM majors. At least do something like Econ and English, if you're insistent on majoring in humanities. Seriously, just majoring and focusing only in English really is not making the most of your tuition.
>>8449473
I majored in EECS and I usually just mess with literature and philosophy on the side. I'd recommend a similar path honestly.
Isn't Augustine, ultimately, Nietzsche's natural foil? Particularly when you take the Confessions into account. Here is a man that fully embraced what you might call his Dionysian elements, his inner strength and will... and he tossed it all away, and became perhaps the purest example of Christian slave morality. And it made him happy.
To top it off, he was a particular favorite of Schopenhauer, who of course was a huge part of Nietzsche's development as a philosopher. And I believe at one point Nietzsche even comments disparagingly about him in a letter.
And of course it goes without saying that their philosophical projects are diametrically opposed.
>>8449469
You write an interesting post and i am looking forward to some hopefully good discussion here but am curious if you really know what Christian slave morality is.
>and he tossed it all away, and became perhaps the purest example of Christian slave morality
Could you elaborate on this and explain it in more detail what the Christian slave morality is and how you see that in Augustine?
>>8449469
Fuck off you "redpilled" internet """"philosopher"""""
Stop reading Nietzsche as a meme, and start with the Greeks next time genius.
where do I start with him /lit/? What are his best books?
>>8449449
The first two books of his Sea of Fertility saga are definitely his best works, but not a particularly good place to start.
I'd recommend Temple of the Golden Pavilion as a start, then Confessions of a Mask. The Sailor Who Fell From Grace with the Sea is one of his more known books, but not really one of his best. Read it if you like everything else.
Patriotism is pretty good too, and can be easily read in one sitting.
If you're really into the his homo aspects, read Forbidden Colors.
>>8449453
>Sea of Fertility saga
why do you say this is isn't the best place to start anon?
Sailor who fell from Grace with the Sea. The John Nathan translation.
>From late October 1870, Rimbaud's behaviour became openly provocative; he drank alcohol, spoke rudely, composed scatological poems, stole books from local shops, and abandoned his characteristically neat appearance by allowing his hair to grow long. On 13 and 15 May 1871, he wrote letters (the lettres du voyant), to Izambard and to Demeny respectively, about his method for attaining poetical transcendence or visionary power through a "long, intimidating, immense and rational derangement of all the senses. The sufferings are enormous, but one must be strong, be born a poet, and I have recognized myself as a poet."
What did he mean by this?
Sounds like your average college student desu
>>8449404
Yeah, I know lots of college students whose goal in life is to attain poetical transcendence or visionary power.
>>8449348
That he was ready to stop being pounded by Verlaine.
>Choose a life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television. Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers... Choose DSY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit crushing game shows, stucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away in the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself, choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that
Is there a better opening passage than this? That James Joyce is some boy
>>8449326
Why'd Joyce do so much heroin?
>>8449326
Is this a "meme"?
>>8449338
What makes you say that?
Is Nietzsche the original meme/
>>8449274
No, that would be free will
>>8449274
language is the original meme
if you read nietzsche you would know that
>>8449274
Nietzsche is very much not a meme in terms of his work and its impact though, he basically started the contemporary era of philosophy by burying the rest of philosophy under a heap of his own shit. But he was never too stuffy or serious when doing this, he just casually pauses to take a shit on it once in awhile until you've gone through all of his works and notice that there is now a massive mountain of shit laying atop the once beautiful edifice of philosophy which prevents us from ever finding it as beautiful as it once was no matter how much muck is removed. Every time we look at this edifice, no matter if it is cleaned off or apparently rebuilt entirely anew, we remember the stink he slathered all over the original copy.
Looking for more lovecraftian style fantasy/ horror that is actually better than lovecraft
Someone here recommended pic related and I've loved everything about it. Looking for more
Someone mentioned the works of Lord dunsany, is it any good?
Read the Zothique series by Clark Ashton Smith. More fantastical than Lovecraft (takes place in a "Dying earth" sort of scenario) but similar themes. Insane archaic vocabulary and moody stories about necromancers, mad alchemists, cult-leading ancient gods etc.
I think he also wrote some Lovecrftian mythos as well. Definitely look him up.
xenomorph fanfiction
There are insects walking inside my books and I don't even know what they are, so I can't take the appropriate measures.
I don't think it's silverfish, because they're really tiny (pic related), and they also don't seem to be destroying the books like silverfish would. Still, I'm very worried. Please, help me identify it if you can.
A closeup.
what book are you reading?
Put it under your microscope.
Name another author who synthesizes epics like Moby Dick, The Bible, and Paradise Lost so well.
>>8449046
You mean synthesize Faulkner and Faulkner and cowboys?
>>8449056
The Faulkner similar stops at the prose. Faulkner writes character-driven narratives, McCarthy's novels are theme-driven and almost always notably distant from the characters.
There isn't a single instance of empathetic psychological insight in BM and that's what fuels Faulkner's work
>>8449067
I was memeing friend.
Is dilapidated the most pedestrian word you can think of? I hate reading this shitty word in some amateur writer's shitty practice writing.
What words do you think are cheap and lame?
as if
seemed
appeared to be
any quotation-related word that is not "said"
cut the flab for God's sake
>>8448990
A friend of mine used "dilapidated" in a sentence and had a look of accomplishment on his face. He subsequently gave us the definition without any of us asking
I use nefarious occasionally -- enjoy the way it sounds