What will the most prevalent form of art be in 100 years?
Literature will be seen as a hipster sort of thing I would imagine. I think film will carry on as the main art form
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Ultra high def image macros shot directly into your brain
>>8458534
This, or nanobots in the bloodstream to regulate your emotions, etc.
>>8458522
dividing by zero
Post your unread stack, rate, rec, criticize others.
What order should I tackle this? I just finished Delillo's White Noise
Sorry guys I don't know how phone cameras work pls no bully
>>8458508
Sorry, mate, can you take it once more?
Any english translaton suggestions? Looking to pick it up in about a week.
Superior Grossman edition
I have the tobias smollett translation and it was good.
>grossman
ffs stay away from celebrity translators. they just write their own books in a style that their readers enjoy.
Can we discuss the works of this man? I mean other than Lolita, Pale Fire and Ada. I should re-read Lolita at some point since I read it a long time ago. Also, Ada was probably the single book that filled me with the greatest and sweetest joy. A blissful experience.
I just bought Pale Fire and will read it pretty soon. But that one is also kind of a meme-book here so I'd like to strive the discussion toward all his other works, which are lesser known, and get some input and reccs from fellow /lit/ friends.
I'm considering reading Pnin next. Which of his other novels are standouts?
Can you say there's an 'early' Nabokov and a 'late' Nabokov?
Is the early stuff as good as his later work?
DId the switch from Russian to English have an impact in his style or themes?
>>8458485
"Early" Nabokov is typically anything that was originally in Russian.
I've only read Lolita, Pale Fire and Laughter in the Dark. Laughter in the Dark is sortof a proto-Lolita set in Europe. It's not exactly the same but the general idea of an older man being ruined through his relationship with a younger woman is there. Though she's a lot more complicit in the process and isn't quite as young.
>>8458485
You answered your own question about early and late. Scholars tend to divide his work by Russian works and when he began writing in English.
With Nabokov we have an interesting opportunity to look at how his work changed from when he wrote in Russian to English because he and his son translated a large portion of his Russian work, so I feel that we get more of his intent for the prose in the translation than is usual with other translations. I'd say stylistically, yes, he changed a lot. Just find a copy of Glory or one of his other early novels, you'll see the difference. I hate spoonfeeding opinions on here, so I won't tell you if it's "better" as his later work.
As far as standouts, check out An Invitation to a Beheading.
>>8458485
I'm currently about halfway through Invitation to a Beheading and it is just basically Kafka. I'm amazed Nabokov denies having read Kafka before writing it, although, who knows, authors are very proud about influences, so he may've lied. It's a very good work and surprisingly readable, I could've finished it in a day if I wanted to and probably will finish it today, but I think he either cribbed it from Kafka or Kafka was such a genius he intuited the essence of totalitarianism so well (perhaps from living with such an overbearing father and working in bureaucracy?) that he exactly wrote what other writers would write only later when writing about totalitarianism (which Nabokov claimed to have been doing with Beheading, independently of Kafka), which is a fucking mouthful, whew.
I'm inclined to believe that this is testament to Kafka's genius rather than Nabokov's heavy influence by him here.
I've read Pnin, too. Didn't much like it, really. A pointless letdown compared to Lolita, which he wrote right before. Pnin is the opposite, in a sense, of H.Humbert since Pnin is such a good-natured person, which actually makes Pnin and his story very yawnworthy compared to the evil of H.H.
Anyway, that's my pointless post, hope you liked it.
Samuel Delany sucks. He's boring and unimaginative, despite his efforts. Which of you bitch-fuck anons are trying to meme him?
he's a pedo and an edgelord
>>8458442
he had that beard before you had yours, hipster.
yes, "Hogg" is crap. but i still think "Babel-17" is good.
>>8458392
hogg is fucking boring
Has anyone read this book? How is it?
Also, anyone else got any more books on geopolitics they could recommend?
Thucydides is a classic.
But it's awful dry at times.
>>8458380
I read it six months ago. I liked it but I don't remember anything about it now.
Kissinger's book On China was fascinating because he talks about his own visit to China.
I also liked Monsoon by Robert Kaplan, which focuses on the Indian Ocean and Southeast Asia. He actually travels to each place he talks about, so there's decent travel writing mixed in with the geopolitical analysis.
if you want to understand the Atlantic ruling class ideology you got to go back to the classic geopolitics of sea power and the response
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Influence_of_Sea_Power_upon_History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_J._Spykman
modern ideology is laid out in the Wolfowitz Doctrine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine
So I just copped this 50th anniversary edition of DUNE.
Is this the first book in a series of books? If so I hear the first book is slow and the last books are shit.
Can somebody explain to me the order of the Dune books and which ones are patrician reading.
TANKS
First book amazing
Second slow kind of ass
Third is awesome
Fourth is God emperor
Then just stop there
>>8458346
Just read the first three, maybe four
I just finished the first book and I was very disappointed...
I mean, it was a fun read, but it's definitely closer to Game of thrones than lord of the rings ie little to no literary value
Descartes BTFO
Elaborate your memes
>>8458327
I presume he's saying all descartes had to do to prove his own existence was look in the mirror.
"How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?"
- Jayden Smith
OP BTFO
Why is Bleak House the most underrated Dickens novel? Its obviously his best.
>>8458254
Lets not pretend that any of the Dickens novels will ever bring the pleasure, feels, and awe of this work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsiKOJOXMJU
>>8458254
Probably because A Tale of Two Cities is his least parochial book.
>>8458476
YOU'RE DOOMED, SCROOGE!
Is Pierce Brown the most attractive author?
Anyone rejected by tin house in 2016 recently? Can you copy paste the rejection letter? Trying to figure out if I just got a tiered rejection letter or not. Thanks.
Also literary magazines geberal thread. Do you subscribed to any? Have you sent any poetry of prose in to them? Ever been published?
I know nothing about literary magazines. Are they typically good reads? What are the best ones to get into?
>>8458194
I sent them a couple of poems last year, haven't been rejected yet but it's likely only a matter of time.
>>8458411
It varies a lot. All the big ones are highly pretentious and cliquey in that they tend to only publish already established/bestselling authors. The smaller ones are more of a mixed bag.
wtf I hate myself now
>tfw you actually have a mickey mouse watch that you wear to parties
>>8458099
think of it as a chance to change for the better anon.
embrace meaning and authenticity. learn from wyatt-kun. avoid becoming ludy.
>>8458125
But Wyatt didn't embrace meaning and authenticity. Or he did, but by the end he was pretty resigned to just living out the rest of his days without trying to find what doesn't exist, right? He chooses love rather than authenticity or inauthenticity.
>>8458251
i wont go as far to say wyatt had a happy ending, but it was by far more optimistic than anyone else in the book (besides arguably stanley). his final chapter deliberately contrasted him with Ludy and the implication was there's a chance, however small, that Wyatt finds some sort of fulfillment against all odd. by not futilely chasing what doesn't exist wyatt frees himself to maybe embrace a happier existence.
according to correspondance, gaddis had excised a section where wyatt actually finds his daughter stating it was "too happy" of an ending, but it shows how the possibility exists.
Why bother BUYING physical books when it's so easy to download e-books for free from the internet? It's like you guys like burning your money.
Say goodbye to that when Russia's EMP fries it, civilian
Because nothing beats the feel of a crisp book in the hands, or that wave of glue and printer ink you get when you open a brand new one.
You can't line the walls of your house with e-books poorfag.
>>8458053
There is no denying, you can carry a whole library on those things, switch between books easily, can read in the dark, etc.
But..
There is no denying that, for alot of people, reading physical book is way better, and also, owning a nice copy of your favorite books is pretty nice.
If you really do not want to "burn your money", why don't you just read from your cellphone, like I do sometimes? And also, its like you don't even know something called second-hand books, with the price of that device you can buy ALOT of classics that no one gives a shit to these days.
What is the best translations in English for Virgil’s The Eclogues and The Georgics?
I would actually want a Portuguese translation, but there does not seem to be a good one in Brazil, so I will try my luck with English (I can’t read Latin, sadly).
>>8458045
bump
>>8458045
bump
>>8458045
fagles
Good evening, /lit/.
I'm not one of you, so my tastes are probably considered plebeian. However, I hope that you can still give me some advice. I just finished reading pic related, and I quite enjoyed it. I found the start to be a little slow, but when the pace picked up all the worldbuilding really started to pay off.
I was eager to jump into the sequel, but then I heard some *very* mixed reviews of it, and I'm not quite sure whether it's worth my time. Although other voices are saying the bad reviews are just because people don't like seeing their hero turn into a villain.
So, is Dune Messiah a decent book, or does it deserve the lower ratings it gets?
Also Dune general I suppose.
Dune Messiah is a good book. It's a very interesting direction to take the Hero and the victory that hero claimed in the first Dune book.
I'm reading Children of Dune right now and I'm not sure if it's really worth it.
>>8457987
It's worth it for God Emperor of Dune.
>>8458733
I doubt that at this point. The worst part of Children of Dune is the explaining of Leto's abilities and the meaningless explanations of the motions his consciousness goes through and the vague plotting of some plan that no one in the book understands. I hear God Emperor is not much different and actually more of that stuff.