Actually loneliness has a kind of fascination; it's a state of egotistical, inner grace that you can achieve only by standing guard on old, forgotten roads that no one travels anymore.
>>8450111
nice trips
>>8450111
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>>8450111
Nah. It's mostly just painful.
Do you think Grossman picks books to translate based on their merit, or is she just a hired gun?
Going through her translations many of my favorite latin and spanish books were translated by her, was wondering if this list is useful as a portal towards other spanish language /lit/
>>8450040
Her translation of Don Quixote is shit.
Tobias Smollett is the best translator of Cervantes.
>>8450141
Well, Bloom thinks its unbelievable, but Marquez actually told her he enjoys reading his works in her English which seems to be high praise. Clearly she isnt just some darling to publishers like P&V
>>8450143
Marquez was referring to Rabassa's translation, and it was half-jokingly.
Bloom's introduction to Grossman's Don Quixote is probably the worst introduction I've ever read. I'm not exaggerating. He spent the entire introduction talking about Falstaff.
Bloom has nothing to say. He likes Andrew Hurley's translations of Borges too.
> or is she just a hired gun?
Yes, you need to re-translate in order to make those copyright gain$.
It's weird how, when you start to read the novel, you like Ignatius, you think he's funny, and then, slowly, you start to hate him, because he's such a prick, and he's mean to everyone around him. You want to like him, but you can't. But when you reach the end of the novel, it's even worse: you start to empathize with him. You understand his struggle, his hateful behaviour towards the world around him.
I feel really weird about Ignatius. I often see him in my daily behaviour and I immediately get scared, I'm afraid I'm slowly becoming like him.
Thoughts on that character?
>>8450034
>Thoughts on that character?
Nothing of worth has been written in the last 800 years and Ignatius sheds light on that fact. That reason alone is enough to admire him.
>>8450034
HE'S LIKE /R9K/ IMPERSONATED LMAO!!!! TAKE THE REDPILL
HE'S LITERALLY /R9K/ JUST LIKE THE UNDERGROUND MAN, THEY ARE EXACTLY ALIKE
>>8450324
not funny btw
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/03/daily-chart-2?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/revengeofthenerds
Have you grown hungry yet?
>>8449989
Two problems here: first, most people on here don't have degrees in English or Philosophy but rather just have an interest in them, and second, money isn't everything and if material wealth is your goal you will die a poor man.
Jokes on you, I'm probably going to leave with my masters in biochemistry because I don't like science anymore. Instead i spend time in the lab writing and working on my novels/stories.
>>8449989
>thinks obscene wealth matters
So long as we live comfortably -- which, if you're not a complete fucking moron, isn't all that hard -- then you'll be fine. If the pursuit of material gain is your only goal, then you've truly crippled yourself intellectually.
Lit, I have a problem. I can only read a few pages at a time without getting tired. I've read about 8 books this year so far, but I still don't feel that I'm that much better of a reader than I was when I started off this year. I think that I'm a little better, I've tackled a few classics and I definitely have more confidence as a reader. I still that get feeling when I'm looking at a page though, sometimes I get distracted and I feel like I can't even finish a single sentence anymore, and no matter how hard I push myself I realize that I'm just going to have to put the book down and come back to it later when I have more concentration.
If anyone has ever had this feeling I'd like some positive reassurance that I can get over this, because this whole time I have been getting into reading it has been a matter of trying to force myself to read. It's just that, there's so many books that I want to read. It's not like I'm not enjoying myself, the whole time I've been feeling like this is one of the best things that I've ever done with my life. Reading is so interesting and it actually keeps me from feeling bored and empty, I want to fill myself with so much knowledge and there's so many books to read, it's frustrating that I can only read so fast.
>>8449966
Reading is a exercise. Your exercising your brain and your eyes. So to do this well I just do a few preliminary things like I would with all exercises. I don't eat (too heavily) before I read. Eating too much leads to digestion distraction, using the bathroom, sugar imbalance etc. I do my reading away from outside distraction, this means loud music, away from my dog, etc. When I read it's almost always like meditation, if you lose focus just bring your brain back to where you were. Focus on the inner voice when reading pay attention to it. Visualize some of the stuff you read and do a quick recall once in a while to make sure you comprehend events you're reading. I hope this helps.
>>8449966
You should probably read things you enjoy and want to read, rather than things that will supposedly impress a bunch of hipsters on a cantonese life drawing post exchange.
>>8450000
I do choose stuff I want to read. If I was trying to impress people I'd read Moby Dick and Gravity's Rainbow, but I'm not. I've also really enjoyed every book I've read this year, it's just difficult is all. I want more than anything than to find an engrossing book that I find meaningful.
Why do certain people kowtow before ideologies that are antithetical to the values they profess? Are there any books that investigate this phenomenon?
I think of it as 'Ideological Stockholm Syndrome', but usually get accused of armchair psychology/etc when I bring it up.
>>8449963
Because ideologies involve paradoxes, and you may not have considered all of them. Feminism, for instance, is supposed to involve personal freedom and autonomy for women over their own bodies. It may seem contradictory to then argue that women should be allowed to wear something we associate with oppression, but it doesn't take much reflection to realize that forcing a modest woman to wear a bikini "for their own good" is hardly giving them freedom, any more than forcing a nudist to cover up is.
>>8449963
Everyone loves their enemies. Conservative militia groups are based on communist and terrorist cell structures, and don't get me started on the migration of torture techniques.
>>8450108
>forcing a modest woman to wear a bikini "for their own good" is hardly giving them freedom
This doesn't happen.
Someone can choose not to wear a bikini without consequences.
It obviously doesn't go both ways.
What the actual FUCK was hemingway smoking when he wrote the scenes with catherine and frederic in them?
>"do you love me darling?"
>"yes"
>"no
>"I do"
>"isn't wine a grand thing?"
>"don't say that darling"
>"you're a lovely girl"
>"I have a father"
>"have you?"
>"Yes"
>"you're a nice girl"
>"please"
>"come to bed"
>"no"
>"sooner or later?"
>"maybe"
>"ok"
>>8449927
hemmingway*
>>8449927
catherine was so next lvl, shame no girl like that can exists irl
>>8449952
She was literally retarded
ITT: God tier openings to any book/story
>I do not recall distinctly when it began, but it was months ago. The general tension was
horrible. To a season of political and social upheaval was added a strange and brooding
apprehension of hideous physical danger; a danger widespread and all-embracing, such a
danger as may be imagined only in the most terrible phantasms of the night. I recall that
the people went about with pale and worried faces, and whispered warnings and
prophecies which no one dared consciously repeat or acknowledge to himself that he had
heard. A sense of monstrous guilt was upon the land, and out of the abysses between the
stars swept chill currents that made men shiver in dark and lonely places. There was a
demoniac alteration in the sequence of the seasons the autumn heat lingered fearsomely,
and everyone felt that the world and perhaps the universe had passed from the control of
known gods or forces to that of gods or forces which were unknown.
>>8449876
I said to myself "How is this shit god tier? This reads like Lovecraft." Then I looked it up because sometimes these hunches or predictions of mine turn out to be embarrassingly untrue, and what do you know: it is Lovecraft and it is, if not shit, far from god tier. Ha! I have read a total of one story by HPL in my life, plus a few quotations here and there (mostly here) and already I can divine his work. And there's noone to boast this great achievement to except you, OP, who will pour your frustrated invectives upon me for scorning your idol. Such is the tragedy of genius.
>"From a little after two oclock until almost sundown of the long still hot weary dead September afternoon they sat in what Miss Coldfield still called the office because her father had called it that — a dim hot airless room with the blinds all closed and fastened for forty-three summers because when she was a girl someone had believed that light and moving air carried heat and that dark was always cooler, and which (as the sun shone fuller and fuller on that side of the house) became latticed with yellow slashes full of dust motes which Quentin thought of as being flecks of the dead old dried paint itself blown inward from the scaling blinds as wind might have blown them."
Facundo's terrible shadow! I shall evoque you, so that, shaking off the bloodied dust that covers your ashes, you rise again to reveal us the secret life and internal convulsions that tear apart a noble people. You posses the secret: reveal it to us!
It's better in spanish.
So what does /lit/ think of R. Scott Bakkers Second Apocalypse series?
I'm currently reading the sicth book The Great Ordeal and I have to say I'm hooked. So many revelations happening and things unravelling. Sometimes his style of writing is too confusing, I have to read it several times and still don't understand.
But overall a very enjoyable series of books.
It's laughable dogshit for teenagers.
If anyone doesn't believe me, Google a few quotes.
>>8449870
Pretty bad, even for genre fiction.
Barely above Sanderson tier.
Well maybe I'm simple then, but I found it unique with so much philosophy twisted in it.
If you like fantasy at least give it a try.
content creators thread
like only post if you actively right stuff and it doesn't matter what it is, whether it's fanfiction or a novel you're working on. Hell even tabletop GM's can give it a go sharing what they're doing preparing for their games, just only post if you actually write things.
Me I used to write a lot of really great short stories during my high school years and I've officially been NEET 3 years now but I have high hopes for a career in writing. I want to write fiction andI'm working on a series of fantasy/gothic mystery novels.
Basically I got this really good idea for the ending of book 1 where it's going to end on a 'did he make it out alive' question mark - it'll endwith the line "and the elderly man's body was lost to the ocean forever,,, Or was it?". And the next books are going to be seemingly separate stories sharing random elements which will eventually be expanded upon.
http://pastebin.com/AsQTMqkq
Rate, cranked it out in an evening, would rather be doing other things but hey.
>>8449838
>Or was it?
I would avoid this line like the plague if I were you, but I'm not, so I don't have any idea what you're going for.Or do I?No, not really.
>>8449838
>like only post if you actively right stuff and it doesn't matter what it is
Finally someone who understands. My friends claim they're sick of me fixing their shit, but I know I'm not the bad guy here.
I am responsible for a number of the copypastas here, so I consider myself a content creator.
Why does no one write plays in poetic verse anymore? It's all boring realism nowadays. I want to see some modern movies in iambic pentameter, with some creative, heightened language.
I think it'd probably be seen as pseud or cocky.
Get famous for a good philosophical novel then do it.
>>8449800
Charles III is in iambic pentameter.
>Shakespeare's Macbeth
Blow, wind!
Come, wrack!
At least we'll die with harness on our back.
>No Fear Shakespeare Macbeth
Blow wind!
Come ruin!
At least we're die with our armor on.
What went wrong?
Can you help me complete the table or suggest replacements for the already chosen books?
>>8449774
>>8449770
Interesting enough. I'll bump.
>>8450819
yea seems interesting have another bump
How old is Penelope, seeing that her husband has been away for 20 years and that she is still considered fine as fuck? Was she a child-bride?
Why doesn't Penelope just tell her suitors to leave?
Why does Penelope, understanding that Odysseus is near, decide to suddenly hold a contest with herself as the prize?
>>8449744
Was she a child-bride?
Probably. Hesiod recommends us to marry a 15 year old girl when we arrive to our success at 30.
>Why doesn't Penelope just tell her suitors to leave?
Women's opinions ain't shit. Ulysses' is a headless home, its owner being supposedly died and his son being too young to take power over it.
>Why does Penelope, understanding that Odysseus is near, decide to suddenly hold a contest with herself as the prize?
The gods did it mane. Also it serves as a premonition of umexpected Odysseus BTFO of dem gallants
>>8449744
Who is this Grace of Cytherea?
1. It doesn't matter. They all have divine blood and these are days of old.
2. Because they're the ones with the weapons on the island.
3. >woman
Just try working out how old Achilles and Paris must be, seeing as Achilles was born of the marriage the golden apple was thrown at. Even factoring in the ten years after Helen's abduction before the war proper started. It's a mess.
>>8449744
>Why does Penelope, understanding that Odysseus is near, decide to suddenly hold a contest with herself as the prize?
No suitor was able to win the contest and she knew it.
Why was this novel so quickly dismissed? Is there ever going to be a reappraisal?
It's better (and funnier) than the overrated Mason & Dixon, and the tone is much closer to what I loved about Pynchon's writing from V. to Gravity's Rainbow. Also it seems (at times) like one of the first large-scale critiques of 21st Century America.
I have no expectation of it being as brilliant as GR, but it has to be one of the the most overlooked novels of the past 10 years...
>>8449741
>Why was this novel so quickly dismissed?
overextension
>>8449813
On professional reviewers, probably (my hunch is that was kind of a private joke...) but for casual readers (and by "casual" I basically mean average Pynchon readers, so...) it's incredibly enjoyable.
>>8449741
Everything that isn't GR is quickly dismissed because Pynchon doesn't do exactly what people expect, and, let's face it, most critics of Pynchon don't know how to think about him.
>Religion has invisible purposes beyond what the literal-minded scientistic-scientifiers identify—one of which is to protect us from scientism, that is, them.
Is he right?
>>8449732
you see the problem of the positivist, or even the rationalist in science,:
doubt is permitted only when the doubt is judged acceptable by the scientist [what is acceptable is what makes you have faith in what the scientist claims]:
-if you doubt too little from the statements of people talking to you, the scientist will call you a religious, a sheep, a guy spending his time on metaphysical theses which are disconnected form the reality [the reality that the scientist posits]
-if you doubt too much from the statements of the scientist, the scientist will wave then the card of nominalism, anti-realism, relativism/nihilism/solipsism and terrorize you, since the scientists have no other means, than terrorism, to validate their position
the fact that you have faith in mathematical models to tell you about ''the world'' (which is an inductive concept, like all concepts) is already a philosophical stance. but scientists cannot justify this stance and they become very upset as soon as they are recalled that they fail at justifying their claims that their inductions and deductions are more than conventions inside some formal language.
So they even say explicitly that they are not paid to justify their faith and that this justification does not matter anyway (because they choose to claim that ''science works, look it gives us computers and cars :DDDD'' which is nothing but feeding our hedonism and the statement itself remains very dubious)
religion is a coping mechanism once you face your failure of your life, just like other contrived fantasizes, your faith in the scientific method included.
Religions are meant to leave material-bodily hedonism, travels, concerts, foods, sex and so on, for a spiritual hedonism, through prayers for theists and mediation for atheists.
Plenty of material hedonist love to think of themselves as less hedonistic than they are, since it improves their hedonism in thinking that they are not animals...most people who claim to be religious are not all, it is just the way they are.
In buddhism, you even leave this spiritual hedonism, after you have gained it, which is called jhanas, since you understand that this bliss from prayers, which is just a great, but not perfect concentration-stilness, are not personal nor permanent and that you are still prone to avidity and aversion.
>>8449732
I'm convinced that most traditions evolved from psychological necessity, and often times the people who attempt to get rid of them in the name of progress just end up making things worse.
>Nassim Nicholas Taleb is a Greek Orthodox Christian from Lebanon; the Levant. In the course of his book Antifragile, he promotes skepticism, theism, tradition, the writings of the stoics and seeks to restrict the claims of theory and "naïve rationalism."