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Let me tell you about the dragontails
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>>8596831
Well do it then faggot you've been posting threads the whole week
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>>8597028
before I tell you what it's about, tell me what YOU think it's about
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>>8597395
>before I tell you what it's about, tell me what YOU think it's about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUfxnDAAxHI
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Suggest me a book
I want something that is fairly captivating.
Something that is exciting, and possibly a bit scary, I really like survival things too.
Usually I've just followed "the dreseden files", but I just can't be bothered with anymore of those.
This is for a bus and plane trip, including lots of waiting, that's happening quite soon.
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>>8596826
Gavity's Rainbow sounds right up your alley. It's captivating, exciting and at times a bit scary. It's all about one man trying to survive a massive conspiracy during the Second World War.
Don't be put off by what anyone says about it; it's definitely the best book for a long journey.
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Any more suggestions?
I'm actually more interested in like, arctic survival, or a group of survivors on a dead planet. Or space station survival, or something isolated like that.
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Who will win Literature Nobel Prize this year?
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>>8596731
>be 2016
>Portugal wins Euro
>Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player of the year
>A portuguese dude gets elected as the boss of United Nations
>It's undoubtley Portugal's year
António Lobo Antunes gets the Nobel in 2016, digits confirm
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>>8596741
Post best portuguese /lit/.
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>>8596741
you forgot
>be poor
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what's some /lit/ kino?
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>>8596702
Coen Brothers
Particularly A Serious Man and the Fargo series
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Charlie Kaufman if you're a gay art fag.
David Lynch if you really wish you're a gay art fag but you're not.
Paul Thomas Anderson if you're straight art nigger.
Coen brothers if you a jew ass nigger.
Martin Scorsese if you're a townie but you're not a dumb dumb.
Michael Bay if you are a dumb dumb.
Never watch Steven King, James Cameron or Peter Jackson because they're voiceless money collectors and their output is trash.
All movies are shit.
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Ozu: Tokyo Story
Mizoguchi: Sansho, the Bailiff
Kurosawa: Rashomon
Fellini: 8 1/2
Antonioni: Blow Up
Pasolini: Teorema
Herzog: Nosferatu
Godard: Breathless
Truffaut: 400 Blows
Melville: Le Samourai
Wenders: Paris, Texas
Lang: Metropolis
>Haneke: The White Ribbon
Tarkovsky: Stalker
Sokurov: Russian Ark
Eisenstein: Battleship Potemkin (I dont like this one but he revolutionized the montage technique)
Altman: Nashville
Jarmusch: Down by Law
Kaufman: Synecdoche, New York
Fricke: Samsara
Cassavetes: Shadows
>Kaurismäki: Shadows in Paradise
Weerasethakul: Uncle Boonmee Who Can
Recall His Past Lives
Kiarostami: Through the Olive Trees
Carax: Holy Motors
Kassowitz: La Haine
Noé: Enter the Void
Basically, check out the criterion collection
Pretty standard selection of films I enjoy, nothing inaccessible. Branch out, watch films from different periodes, dont force yourself to like some critically acclaimed avantgarde directors, find what you like and go from there. I dont go to /tv/ so Im not sure how pretentious or pleb my list is. Personally, I started taking interest in film with Godard and Kurosawa. My favorite is probably Haneke. Enjoy
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Brace yourselves: stupid cunts complaining about Stephen King not winning the Literature Nobel Prize are coming!
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Well have you tried not being a stupid cunt? Or is it like your gender identity or something?
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>>8596693
Well he deserves it.
Moine writes Horror like him
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>>8596693
Did he actually write anything worthy of it or is it a 'his body of work' sort of thing?
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I am a 20-year-old boy in Korea.
I dropped out of high school because of anxiety. My family is poor. Can't go to college. Actually don't want to go to college. At least not in Korea. I wish to study creative writing as a discipline. No university in Korea offers creative writing courses in English. Even the ones who offer creative writing programs in Korean are shutting them down because of budget cuts. Also they are useless. I have looked into their courses and curriculum. They haven't got a clue of what writing is. They are fundamentally headed to wrong direction. Actually, no direction. I can't afford it anyway.
I work in a convenience store and make $800 dollars a month. Can't do anything with this.
However poor and miserable, I have a dream. I want to write literature as job, that is prose fiction. I want to write in English because why not, I can. I want to be published and read like all aspiring writers. I want to share my memories and thoughts and visions with people. I think I am not hopeless. That is not to be smug. I merely think I will be better if I work hard.
But I do note that my dream is unattainable. This despairs me. Even in an ocean of despair in which I exist, every moment of thinking about this drags me down even further. I have not yet found the rock bottom.
I am here, getting old as days pass. I wrote this post mindlessly. And decided to post it here. I must have been selfishly hoping someone would read it unconsciously.
I want to convey a message to you. Profit from what you have. This sounds like a cliche because mindless people have been using it for such a long time to look cool. But it still contains verity. Profit from your being in some of the world's most relevant places. Profit from your mastery of English that is your birthright. Profit from being able to afford education. Profit from being able to travel and explore the world. Profit from them to the fullest on behalf of me. Profit from them to the fullest, for me.
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you dont need an education to write but yeah you're right your life is over at a mere 20 years oh what could have been
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>>8596665
My next masturbation session will be dedicated to you. Good luck.
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Quality post. That being said, any true fulfillment comes from within. Best of luck.
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Does /lit/ have any tattoos? I have a Redwall warrior on my right arm. I also have a Black Sabbath tribute tattoo and Smaug wrapped around my left wrist (photo incoming). Does anybody else have anything cool?
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>>8596570
Little corny, I know. Black Sabbath is my favourite band, though.
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>>8596570
Jesus Christ you are beyond hope.
I'm sorry you have the parents you do anon. They've definitely failed you
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>>8596574
Your tattoos are awful but supernaut is a great song.
They all just seem low effort, especially the lyrics. Tattoos of words are always terrible. Far better to find a good artist and get them to illustrate the words
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I wish philosophy wannabes would go to /his/ like they're meant to. This board gets absolutely NO space for current literature anymore --- dude's deciding to show everybody their badass Greeks Haul, yeah everybody else read Plato in highschool, we get it --- now where's the literature? pic related is you
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>>8596481
philosophy is literature you fucking inbred
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>>8596483
'look at my highschool reading list of authors everybody anywhere already knows' is just wannabes/newfags attention whoring
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/lit/ is for books of aesthetic worth.
if you want to talk about aesthetics, go to /his/.
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What are some authors whose works you initially liked, but started to like significantly less the more you learned about said author?
I was once a huge Lovecraft horror fan, but when I learned that he was a raging racist I couldn't help but lose an immense amount of respect for both him and his works.
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Khalil Gibran
From shit is cash to can't take it in a few years.
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>>8596472
>when I learned that he was a raging racist
Is this bait?
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nice bait
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Hi /lit/, I picked these up for a tenner from a second hand book shop.
Which is the best order to read them in? Which books would you recommend I add to these? I'm generally interested in the classical world but all I've read from the period is meditations so far.
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>>8596452
Herodotus
Thucydides
The Republic
The last days
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>>8596461
Thanks anon.
I'm going to pick up the Illiad as well, where should I slot that in?
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>>8596466
Do the Illiad and Odyssey first, they are basically the foundation of Greek education and learning.
Ifyou like Herodotus and Thucydides just go with the canon, from Greek to Roman historians and orators. If you like the philosophy than you should do the same, starting from books about the Presocratics (mostly preserved fragments) to Aristotle/Plato/Socrates and then on to the Romans. Secondary literature highly recommended to not fall into the >muh evil Sophists meme
Honorable mentions:
Xenophon
Polybius
Plutarch
Ceaser (yes the man himself)
Sallust
Tacitus
Heraclitus
Secena
Epicurus
Epictetus
My view of ancient philosophy was drastically changed by a very old, but very good book, but it would really be only useful when you are familiar with the whole canon.
Friedrich Albert von Lange - Geschichte des Materialismus und Kritik seiner Bedeutung in der Gegenwart (History of Materialism)
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>Discover /lit/.
>Read Infinite Jest.
>Read TBK, Crime and Punishment and Notes.
>Read Stoner.
>Read Camus.
>Read Sartre.
>Went from mildly depressed to borderline suicidal.
Why was I never told reading lit was so depressing?
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you are entering nihilism. you must go through.
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Similar story here, I also read all of those.
At the same time I was also reading non-fiction, and I think there are certain subjects that give you a reality check on the human condition. Read about evolution, psychology, economics... once you see the world from a scientific, non-sentimental perspective you'll stop sulking and become content with being a nihilist.
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tbqh famalam, don't worry, it's liberating once you get used to it.
I've read most of Dostoevsky, Camus and jumped right into Kierkegaard.
I do stupid shit all the time now, it's liberating knowing you're going to die.
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I just found out Although of Course You End Up Becoming Yourself has been adapted to film. Yes I'm slow, I don't watch a lot of films.
I've just downloaded it but I'm afraid it might trigger me. The trailer made me weep. Any other DFW fans seen this?
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i thought it was a pretty good little movie even if you could probably get hung up on jason seagull as dfw
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Who would have been a better choice for playing Wallace?
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>>8596520
chris tucker in whiteface
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Ds1 very clearly states "shit sucks and then you die."
This game is not nearly as cohesive in terms of lore, tell me what the fucks goinf on. Theres no point in asking /v/.
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Dark Souls is shit. It's loved because at the time there was a vacuum for challenging games (it's not that challenging btw). Because of the hype surrounding how "challenging" everyone neglected to face up to the fact that the game is fundamentally a piece of shit. Graphics, engine, bugs, optimization. Don't get me started on the "story" and the "lore". Good job asking /lit/, /v/ are retards about this shit.
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>>8596400
>underage neo/v/ with less than 30 ban evades roleplays as a 4chan user using buzzwords.
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>>8596415
I don't play videogames, and this is a literature board, chimp.
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Hey /lit/ so I was thinking every author I read seems to be a classic from the 50s and below, like Salinger, Orwell, Golding, Bradbury etc, and I was just hoping you guys could recommend me some more modern novels/authors from like the last 20 years I could check out
I'm a pleb when it comes to literature so don't go out recommending some 10,000 page book but also don't recommend me like Harry Potter thanks
A chart or list would do perfect for this
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>>8596375
My diary desu
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>>8596375
Look at the people who win awards. Man-Booker, Pulitzer, Nobel. Some awards are much more prestigious than others (Pulitzer always nominates middlebrow shit), but they're all pretty fantastic starting points for someone who wants to get into something a step-up from Harry Potter or George Martin.
One of my favourite books is from 1997: Bernhard Schlink's The Reader. It's fairly short and readable.
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>>8596375
Haruki Murakami is perhaps the greatest writer of the past 150 years, definitely the greatest living. Read Kafka on the Shore.
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Where to start with Kant? I have only rudimentary knowledge of philosophy except socratic/platonic and other ancient greek philosophies due to my high school education and now I want to read Kant. However I don't know where to start and the wiki didn't help me. Can you help me?
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>>8596359
Kant a shit. Nietzsche too. Just go for 'Hauer.
But if you wanna have some light Kant, go with Observations on the Feeling of the Beautiful and Sublime, and you'lle see why Kant a shit.
As for 'Hauer, I'd say Parerga and Paralipomena is his most important work.
And if you wanna go through Nietzsche... well, I guess we all go through that phase. It's universally understood that, when it comes to Nietzsche, you start with Zarathustra.
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Use Stanford Encyclopedia and the IEP instead of Wikipedia
Read Guyer's introduction to the new Cambridge authoritative translation of the first Critique
Read up on Humean and Lockean epistemology a little, or just read their actual essays
Read up a little (Guyer's introduction will help) on Kant's earlier work, especially Leibniz
The real key to understanding Kant well is having the "click" moment of understanding his problematic, and having some training wheels to guide you through his odd language and the odd way he sets up his enterprise. The latter is always tricky and clunky, and there are many points at which Kant is simply contentious or vague even today, but if you have that "click" of at least understanding what he's trying to do, you have firm ground to stand on.
In addition to Guyer's books there are some good books on how to approach Kant. I think in the same series as Guyer there is a Cambridge Companion to Kant, plus a Cambridge Companion to the first critique, broken up into separate essays. I'd start with the introduction and the Stanford+IEP articles, and see if you feel confident.
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>>8596381
I don't read translations I am German and speak German English and I can read Latin and ancient Greek at least I used too.
I meant the /lit/ wiki but I will check the Stanford Encyclopedia out.
Thank you