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What's your cozy reading set up, /lit/?
Mine:
>morning
>hammock
>cafe au lait
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>comfyfags now saying cozy as if that makes any difference
kill yourself
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>>8602343
>kill yourself
Now, that's not cozy OR comfy.
Tea?
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>>8602334
>couch right next to the bookshelves
>lots of blankets and pillows
>nice candle going
>sunny outside with the blinds angled just right where it makes the whole room a dampened kind of bright

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>Writing an essay for this
It's sucking away any enjoyment I have for it
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>>8602302
>2016
>he's not a NEET accelerationist trying to ruin the world
SHIGGY
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>having to spend a few hours closely reading and thinking about literature ruins your enjoyment
Pro-tip: You didn't actually enjoy it in the first place
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>>8602307
Not him, but it depends on the kind of essay, the creativity you're allowed to employ and the proximity to the deadline.

I know I've had a blast writing about HST and Kierkegaard or Burroughs and Spinoza, but I was allowed to be really free from stylistic/contenutistic constrictions while I did it. Having to, I don't know, write 3k words on the frequency and genealogy of slang in the Naked Lunch is a bit less interesting. Writing 5k words on the possibility of Spinoza having read the Sophists via archive/codex inspection, all of it in a scholarly manner with precise notation, is a lot less interesting - to me, at least.

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What are some books set Africa during imperialist times?
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Heart of darkness
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>>8602297
Things fall apart too
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>>8602296
Going solo by Roald Dahl

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Human Kind:

Across earth we differ
Both from spirit and from skin
We debate and berate
We seldom capitulate
And rarely look within

We battle and we dominate
Dehumanize deteriorate
We murder we and scheme
Often blood in streams it gleams

The word of war we have deemed
In every land the word is screamed
Who was once up now is down
Our arrogance In it we’ll drown

The story does indeed repeat
What’s bitter once is never sweet
Standing on shoulders of those now gone
Steers us to a path of a true new dawn

What knowledge has been gained?
What secrets have been unlocked?
What progress has been made?
What wisdom have we mocked?

If only the mighty could be humble
And fully comprehend
That the "enemy" is simply
The missing part of them

The ONE fact remains
That to no One goes the glory
No One, No race, No single face
Can tell the Human story...
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>>8602235
You sound like an edgy SJW with some crudely honed rap lyricism
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>>8602235
So the game is lost
And we're all the same
No one left to place or take the blame

We will leave this place an empty stone
Or that shining ball
We call our home
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>>8602294
cool structuring, but the phrasing isn't the best
1st 2nd and last lines are the issues for me.
The re purposing of the word place is really nice and a technique you don't see often ( using the exact same word in a grammatically/denotatively different way)

place around with it and push your images harder.

i'm assuming this is the poetry crit thread btw

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Anyone here fully understand what Spinoza meant in Ethics, Concerning God Part 1, Explication 8?

> By eternity I mean existence itself insofar as it is conceived as necessarily following solely from the definition of an eternal thing.

Did he mean that the concept of eternity, and eternity itself, may only exist if there is an entity there to continually perceive it, and its concept? If so, that means in Spinozan terms, God must exist since It is the only eternal being able to carry said concept, right?

I'm asking for a friend, please help.
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Well, my interpretation is that eternity is something essential to the Eternal Thing/Substance/God/Being (everything, all in all), not something that may or may not exist depending on something else. It's not contingent: in the moment Being is (and there is no moment, just the fullness of time) eternity is too. Actually, too is the wrong word. There is no difference between Being and eternity, and Being tiself exist in eternity in all directions - time is non linear, the third kind of knowledge (sub specie aeternitatis) means that everything exist in eternity all the time; think of it as the smallest possible point and the biggest possible area. It's easier if you use Parmenides's description of Being as a guide.

But that's me and I'm in no way a Spinza scholar, hope someone else may give another opinion.
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>>8602169
So, to summarize your point: Eternity may exist even if nothing exists.

How can something exist if there is nothing?

Am I mentally handicapped? Did I not read your post more carefully? Are you the one who's not making any sense?
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>>8602222
Wait, how did infer "Eternity may exist even if nothing exists" from my post?

>[Eternity] It's not contingent: in the moment Being is (and there is no moment, just the fullness of time) eternity is too.

Just saying, Being exists. Being is the one Substance, that which, by definition, is and cannot not be. I can't remember his version of the Ontological Argument word for word, but it's in the first half of the first part. God is just another word for Being, in this case, as is Substance. These three words all refer to the same concept, that of something that essentially (as in, it's inherent to its own nature, this thing cannot be thought about withouut this attribute) exists and

>everything exist in eternity all the time

How did you get from this to "eternity may exist even if nothing exists"? I don't understand.

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Are there any good books over The Black Death?
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>>>/wsr/
>>>/his/
>>>google
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This one written by a PhD so it must be good
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>>8602178
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.

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>pic related
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>>8602120
Is this in some way controversial to you?
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What kind of stance are you taking, OP?
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>>8602120
?

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Six word stories, /lit/.
I'll start.

"Wait!"
He turns.
"Nevermind."
Too late.
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one enemy
if god counted
two
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And the rain continued to fall.
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A spider feared his own legs

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Where do I start if I want to get into Cioran?

also, Pessimism General

[fuck off if you have nothing constructive to contribute]
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nothing constructive to contribute but cioran was a good looking guy in his youth
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>>8602102

agreed senpai
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On the Heights of Despair if you want to start with his early thought. A Short History of Decay or The Trouble with Being Born if you want his later. He claims that his philosophy didn't change at all after his first book but that is an outright lie.

If you want his thoughts on saints and music check out Tears and Saints. If buddhism or gnosticism are your thing check out The New Gods.

His book Anathemas and Admirations if you want to know what he thought of other writers. It is also mixed with aphorism on a lot of topics.

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Hey who are some hip cool contemporary playwrights?
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>>8601993
none, is a dead art.
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Equating hip hop (sloppy dogshit) with the heights of traditional Western culture is not only offensive to my people, but it makes for bad art. Miranda is the Kenny G of musical theater.
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>>8602047
realx, bitch ass nigga

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When did you feel the most retarded in relation to literature?

When I first read "As I Lay Dying" I didn't even notice that Dewey Dell was pregnant.
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When I was 17 I read Brave New World and I didn't realize the guy hanged himself at the end I thought he was just twirling around like ballet dancer.
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>>8601949
Lol
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>>8601949
fuck
lol

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I'm wanting to improve my writing skills, and I think the saying of "you learn more from something bad than something great" is true. Can /lit/ hook me up with any books you think are truly awful, that might serve as a good lesson in what not to do when writing?

Free indie e-books would obvs be best, I'd assume that anything published and sitting in a bookstore is at least somewhat competent (happy to be proven wrong on that if you have examples).
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>>8601868
read fanfics on tumblr.
it doesn't get worse than that
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I don't know. I learned a whole lot just reading my own writing and realizing it was horrible. If you go into a bookstore and think, 'wait, this is decent' then you're good.
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>>8601868
Not a novel, but this is full of examples of bad writing. It is the only writing manual I own and have read in full partly because I agree that learning what not to do is more helpful and partly because it is funny.

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So is Jerusalem actually good? Utter garbage? Just a meme? Anyone here get through the whole thing? I don't want to tackle 1200 pages without a LEGIT opinion. Cmon /lit/.
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>>8601852
Well, I like it. You might well hate it. It all revolves around Northampton, which is to Moore what Dublin was to Joyce - he believes it to be the historical, cultural and mystical center of Britain.

There IS a lot of ornate description of things like streets and shop counters; the book plays off Blake's idea of "Jerusalem in England's green and pleasant lands", i.e. the visionary and the divine manifesting through the mundane. The angel stuff ties in to that as well.

It sounds like Connor tapped out somewhere in the first volume; the second one (Mansoul) is a bit more straightforwardly structured.

Basically it's a weird and deeply personal book that people are going to have varied reactions to. There's definitely some literary worth there, but proceed at your own discretion.
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>>8601908
Thanks for this, I'll prob give it a shot
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>>8601852
Many people are going to react badly to Jerusalem because they would expect a lighter read -- the language is too dense and elaborate for casual readers but not concerned or affected enough for snobs -- and many will be overly indulgent simply because they like Moore. There is no reason to trust anyone's review on this, so I'm not going to write one... let's say that there are worse things to be than ambivalent when going into these 1200 pages. the Joyce comparisons must have come too easily to reviewers in reference to the scope and this is not Ulysses -- thankfully, since there is no point in writing another one, but that will not to stop those expecting Ulysses from running blind into disappointment. Links to Joyce, not Joycean technique. If you knew Moore from comic books, you might prefer to pick up his first novel instead and see whether you trust him enough for it to dedicate time to his more ambitious and unedited form.

Also, the cover is very appropriate -- if you can't get past it, don't.

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This book was pretty spooky and a good October read. Why do you guys hate Stephen King again?

Is it because he's a popular fiction writer?
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>>8601728
IT is his only real work with any redeeming literary qualities, so good on you for choosing the right one. The rest is garbage pulp, sorry to say
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>>8601732
I've read Pet Sematary as well. Yeah it's pulp, but it's not necessarily bad.
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>>8601728
It'd be nice if you stop posting the same thread over and over.

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S8147625

Please stop shitting up our board.

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I want to get into Australian sci-fi but I have a sneaking suspicion its going to be dog-shit.

Is there an Australian Gibson? An Australian Dick?
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>>8601724
Greg Egan is better cyberpunk than Gibson
Dunno about others.
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>>8601724
Greg Egan is pretty much the only Australian SF writer to have been published consistently.

people mention Cordwainer Smith but he wasn't born there - he just spent some time there and wrote about sheep farmers in space sometimes.

Nikolai Kingsley doesn't count, 'cause he mostly writes porn.
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Also it's difficult to classify something as "Australian SF". is it any SF written by an Australian? any SF with Australian themes? what are they? is that where an astronaut has corks dangling from the brim of his space helmet?

Aborigines in space? that's the sort of thing a writer might throw in if they were desperate to make a sharp contrast, and then they'd be condemned for USING native Australians as some kind of standard for primitive behavior.

It's possible to point to American SF as the pulp tradition, space opera, etc, and to British SF as the more considered work of Wells and later the experimental work of Aldiss and Moorcock, but after that it's hard to say "this is Japanese SF" or "this is Australian SF" because there isn't any particular characteristic that you could use to identify it.

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