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Did the Eagles ever have a bad fucking song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDNtqy0zjJA

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>>8872505
Take it to /tv/, man.

Ok you fucking prick. You couldn't help yourself. It's not a fucking plothole, moron! Do you think gandalf can just call the eagles over whenever he wants? Do you think they are middle earth's public transit? Are you stupid? There's no reason the eagles should even give a shit. No matter what happens, they can just fly away whenever they want. Why would they risk flying over a bunch of murderous orcs when IT DOESN"T EVEN MATTER TO THEM. They could get fucking killed for what is to them NO REASON. You might as well ask why Tom Bombadil didn't just use his magic shit to turn Sauron into a toadstool. Hint: he doesn't care, and neither do the eagles. There is no plothoel you dumb autist. And even if there was, WHAT KIND OF A FUCKING STORY WOULD IT BE IF THE EAGLES JUST FLEW THE FUCKING RING IN. THERE WOULD BE NO STORY.

JESUS CHRIST.

>>8872451
I liked it.

>>8872451
It's comfy.

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>>8872475
>mfw reading the Shire and Tom Bombadil sections

Schnittkean Dilemmas:

[Disclaimer: You may find the very same sort of dilemmas regarding the aesthetics of other author, but hardly with the same intensity, and, arguably, never at same level as you find with Schnittke.]

 It is half-preposterous / half-barbaric to be cynical about and expert in Schnittke’s aesthetics and episteme as embedded in his music (to detach the former from the latter, as many attempt, would be utterly preposterous). His works demand passion;

 It is half-preposterous / half-barbaric to be exclusively passionate about Schnittke’s music. Regardless of the modality of expertise – as in specialised knowledge – you will manage to accumulate, from strictly commonsensical / intuitive, to paradigmatic / scientific / pseudo-scientific, Schnittke’s aesthetics will demand some sort of systematic way of elaborating to yourself a fruition discourse about his works, which will enable you to assimilate them;

 It is half-preposterous / half-barbaric to play Schnittke’s works as incidental music. The moment you start playing it, supposing the two entry-points above, his music will arrest either your attention and emotions, or will undermine whatever you were trying to do or perform that called for your attentions and / or emotions;

 It is half-preposterous / half-barbaric to subsume Schnittke’s production to an ideology and / or to classify it as some –positive or negative -- response to an ideology, or political system, or to his tormented private life (hermeneutics of his ‘self’). This would be a silly, unnecessary reductionism of the reach of Schnittke’s compositional insights, and a violation of the poetic mottos backing up his music;

 It is half-preposterous / half-barbaric to either ignore the strong influence that the aesthetics of composers such as Gustav Mahler, Дмитpий Шocтaкoвич [Dmitri Shostakovich], and Luigi Nono cast upon his writing, or to try and single out each of those streams and figments of influence per phase in Schnittke’s ouvrage, or to deny or minimise the blissfully infectious patterns of their penetration;

 It is half-preposterous / half-barbaric to by-pass Aльфpeд Шниткe [Alfred Schnittke]’s if one loves music and / or wishes to build up a firm grip on ways through which modernity has been permanently invented and reinvented as a zeitgeist for music creation as an art-form, and as a commodity;

 Last but not least, a double-folded reminder. First fold: it is completely preposterous to attempt at disentangling the logics underlying music creation as art, from music creation as commodity in modernity. Second fold: ‘post-modernity’, like ‘tradition’, is a modern invention.

>>8872447
Its called dogmatism. They're smart enough to identify the systems of great thinkers but not smart enough to simply engage with the ideas themselves.

>>8872447
In some cases it's because they simply draw from a wide range of thinkers. Anarchism, existentialism, and pan-Germanicism all play a role in my worldview. This isn't an attempt to be some sort of special, hyper-unique snowflake. I would love it if more people felt the way I do. Not fitting perfectly into a single ideology gets frustrating at times. I'm too nationalistic and too opposed to nihilism for leftists but too opposed to hierarchy and racism, sexism, ect. for those on the right. If there was a movement out there embodying all of my values, I'd be thrilled but there isn't so I suppose I probably appear to be a contradictory attention seeker at first glance.

>>>/wsr/

Advice? Die.

Jesus Christ just read the damn book.

>>8872370
I personally would read it once then leave it be for a while and go back to it for deeper analysis. You'll never catch everything the first time you read a book so if you power through once and come back I think you'll get a lot more out of it. That's at least what I like to do!

I thought Japaneses ate cake and confessed their feelings on Christmas

Did my cartoons lie to me again?

>>8872142
sadness
introspection
shame

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You've pretty much got it, Japanon. I would add listening to Christmas music and watching Christmas movies. A lot of stuff has to do with nostalgia because it was the best as a little kid; no stress of buying and getting new toys. As an adult, it's just hanging out with loved ones and spending money on them.

>>8872115
>giving a fuck about authors personal lives
>reading books for prescriptivist 'messages' and not aesthetics

Yo that life ain't for me, I keep it clean and AESTHETIC

>>8872131
When did you last dust and tidy your room, aesthetic man?
When did you last clean and tidy your body and your mind?

Pleb.

>Life's too short to read bullshit.
>Only reads novellas.
>Hasn't even touched the GOATs like TBK, W&P, Proust, etc.

yeah that faggot hermann hoppe

>>8872113
"Good" is such a subjective word.

The one book they always use is the one granting them their powers of course. "The Good Book" or "Holy" bibble

>>8872113
That tattooed faggot is the new king of Thailand?

>>8872093
Yeah yeah, here it is >>>/co/

>>8872097
I generally view /lit/ as something more erudite than simply a board for books. It is the discussion of values and beliefs. I wanted to know if comics could convey thoughts and ideas as well as standard literature such as novels or essays. I suppose I should have worded my request better.

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>>8872093
>Is a picture worth a thousand words?

No. This is true in as far as images represent but representation is actually counterproductive to art.
The problem I see in comics is that they seem to be highly dependent on the perspective of the reader. What is literary challenges our perspective, words work so well for this as that the expression is abstracted, we have only the voice of the other in front of us.
With comics we have the limitations of visual media combined with the limitations of text. Its why its so tremendously limited.

Some entry level stuff:

The Recognitions
Bottom's Dream
Women & Men
Gravity's Rainbow
The Magic Mountain
War & Peace
Petersburg
Finnegans Wake
Underworld
Life & Fate
The Brothers Karamazov
Ada or Ardor
2666
The Angel of Darkness
Europe Central

>>8872005
Read Dune.

Read literally anything. If you have never read for your own pleasure, maybe take something easy, short and comprehensive.
If you start with the biggest book you can find, you'll only set yourself up for failure and will lose any inclination to continue reading.

There was only one enemy... Two if you counted God

Politics comes from the unsheathing of a katana.

>>8871930
You wake up with a crash and mummy hasn't made pancakes or adopted a golden retriever.

>>8871895
Is this my diary?

>is this a good book

It's one of the major novels by the Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky.

>>8871902
Is Prince Myshkin suppose to be a Christ like figure? Or at the very least, one of Saint-like qualities?

Have you read The Secret Diary of Curt Kobain?

>>8871885
No, I can't say I have. Would you recommend it?

>>8871893
Well, yes, but first, someone'll have to write it

I'm torn on the Taymore version of Titus Andronicus with Anthony Hopkins as Titus. There are so many idiotic things about it, and so many great ones.

The Tempest adaption with Helen Mirren as Prosperina instead of Prospero was dreck. Caliban did well (even if making him black makes the slavery thing into an in-your-face metaphor), but the rest was a melange of poor and unnecessary special effects and mediocre acting.

If you like seeing masterpieces defiled, just watch this video I took of me plowing your mother last night

>shitting on baz luhrmann
yeah, you're dumb