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Who has the most intricate and pseudo-intellectual psycho babble esoteric-sounding writing style? (bonus point if he is not French)
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Virginia Woolf in my eyes.

Stream of consciousness is fucking retarded
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That picture burns
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hujiz horhe borhez

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Any books with great focus on bromance or friendship?
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there's a homoerotic fascism nazi bromance thing on here. check the catalog
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>>8877515
I don't want homo shit, I want friends going through though stuff and making it
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>>8877499
Nothing Gold Can Stay

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I have a seven year old kid in my family who refuses to read

Mostly on account of "if it has a movie/tv show, why should I read the book?" or simply laziness and lack of interest.

Any idea how to get a kid into reading?

pic unrelated
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>"if it has a movie/tv show, why should I read the book?"

The kid is genuinely smarter than you.
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>>8877448
I have a 6 year old. I've read to her every night of her life. I read in front of her. And I even say things like "there are two kinds of people, those who read and those who don't. And you can tell who is who". I tell her our professional and personal success comes from reading. I don't allow screentime during the week or on schoolnights. I go to the library with them twice a week. I find out what her interests are and try to get award winners that suit them. Its basically full court parenting, and if that hasnt been done by the time he is seven, time to try something new, like programming or legos or some shit.
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Tell him to start with the greeks

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In terms of Japanese literature, who were the greats, and what are the essential must reads?
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read the sticky
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>>8877444
I have, friend. But I want a more in-depth answer.
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>>8877427
Akutagawa, Dazai, Souseki are like the most essential

The beautiful and grotesque have a ton of little stories from akutagawa and is really cheap
I am a Cat or Daisuke by Souseki are good options (second is my favorite book is about a neet)
Run Melos, Schoolgirl and No longer human are the most popular works of dazai.

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Is this the best book written in spanish? I seriously think it's better than anything by Garcia Marquez, Vargas Llosa, Cortazar, Neruda and Paz.
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Cien aƱos de soledad and La ciudad y los perros are better.
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>>8877412
It was too surreal for me, I prefer stuff like Llosa's Feast of the Goat or War at the End of the World, or if we have to be surrealist, Carpentier.

Also >>8877437. Just because Solitude is meme tier in the general populace doesnt mean it isnt a work of Brilliance. Also, Borges' Aleph.
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>>8877440
>>8877437
I think the overall build up of Solitude is brilliant, feels like a modern epic, is one of those things whose popularity is well deserved, even tho I enjoy more the narrative of chronicle of a death foretold. But the way Rulfo uses the language is unmatched in my opinion.

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Why do you read the Classics?
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they provide a powerful insight into humanity; our culture, our history, our psychology. They're invaluable tools for navigating the world and living a good life.
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I have nothing else to read. Any potentially interesting, or even "very good" contemporary novel is taking time i could spend on reading classic, that i may regret not reading on my death bed. Also i want to be highly cultured subversive individual, and quoting latin in appropriate daily situations fits perfectly to my imagined identity
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They never go out of style

Hey guys, I made a thread some months back about having trouble getting through less plot-driven novels and classics, and the general discussion did enough to encourage me to take another spin at it. Since then, I've learn to enjoy books of that nature and I loved Crime and Punishment, as well as The Brothers Karamazov. So I come to you guys with another issue that's been bothering me for quite some time.

I've been drawing for most of my life, with my eventual goal being to be a concept artist. However, when it comes to actually drawing, I tend to get bored for the reason (I believe) that I can't convey all the weight and backstory that actually MAKES a character interesting onto the paper. No matter how creative someone is, I haven't seen an illustration that just triggers my imagination in a powerful way without being somewhat sensual in nature. I've always wanted to add some of that depth to a picture, but to communicate it without the viewer having some idea of the world that they're looking at, all of that gets lost.

It's probably why I've entertained the idea of writing stories instead, but I find it hard to come up with an idea that I'm willing to run with to the very end. I've written a 13,000-ish word story at the very most but it felt like I was scraping the bottom of the well with that one.

I'm not sure if what I'm saying makes sense. I'd go to /ic/ but most of them are either exchanging hentai or are quick to say
>>hurr durr you either got it or you don't
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Show us some of your work OP

BTW, you could partner up with a writer if you get stuck in the middle of a story. That must certainly help at the beginning.
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Here's my last painting.
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>>8877538
Is that Sao Paulo at the back?

Reading Phenomenology of Spirit now. Can't remember the last time I read anything that had such an appalling idea per words (IPH) ratio. Not even done with the preface yet and it's 90% padding. Is this a meme?
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>>8877347
>(IPH)
>tfw the phenomenology of W suddenly becoming H
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>>8877347
prefaces are always 90% padding
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>>8877347
>idea per words
Wouldn't it be words per idea?

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I need to not feel like a depressed piece of shit right now.
All of my fiction books are:
>existentialist philosophies
>various horror (Poe to gothic to modern)
>a lot of cosmic horror/Lovecraft
>/lit/'s recommended depressing literature (No Longer Human, Conspiracy Against Human Race, Notes From Underground,etc)
>apocalyptic shit like Metro2033, World War Z, etc

I realized I have only one "positive" book (pic related). I need something more like it, something with some... positive life message or whatever. I know Alchemist is a load of Oprah book club-tier rubbish in reality but I'm tired of having nothing positive to believe in. I need to believe in something hopeful. Help please.
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Read some R.A.W. (Illuminatus!, Prometheus Rising).
There are no real positive messages but it's an alternative that's easier to swallow than some Oprah tier life affirming bullshit.
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>>8877330
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>>8877342
what is bullshit about something "life affirming" and faulkner is oprah tier as well.

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How do you deal with the fact you will never compare to famous writers and you are consigned to mediocre fan-fiction tier crap? Writing like anything else has an innate talent to it, how do I effectively learn to better my writing to the fullest extent I can achieve? Are online courses the best option?

What is 'good' writing?
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I just post on reddit and get praised almost no matter what I put down
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>>8877255

The "innate" talents of writing, the parts that can't be learned unlike grammar, editing and plot construction, are usually the result of your actual personality. Writers, even the most bitter depressed ones, had a great curiosity about the world and took the time to observe it and its people. They were introspective, but not closed off like an autistic. They read a lot, and took the time to learn from great authors not just practical aspects of writing, but actual life philosophies.

This is why I guarantee that those who spend most of their time of 4chan will never become great writers. 4chan just offers such a narrow view on the world, and many of us lack the emotional intelligence to create compelling characters.
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I just want to write shitty Warhammer 30/40k novels, but I know I'd never be able to get employed at Black Library because it's a nepotistic shithole. Also I'm a shitty amateur dilettante.

Who /readsbooksbasedonlength/ here?

300-450 pages is *perfect*.

500-600 is long.

700+ is just fucking stretching it.

I mean, what the FUCK can you fit into over 1 0 0 0 pages of a book apart from filler prose and bullshit like 30 page descriptions a photo in a character's wallet?
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>>8877157
delete this shit
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>>8877173
You aren't smarter because you read long books.

You force yourself to read these door-stopper snore-fests only for your own vanity.

You absorb less and less the longer the book is.

Do you even remember anything from the 'books' you read?
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I do that. A LOT of the books I read are <300, even <200, short story collections, poetry, plays, etc. because I value my time.
I choose my doorstoppers very carefully always after reading another of the author's smaller books to see if I like their style. Read Tolstoy's short stories before trying AK. Not bothering with Wallace/Pynchon after reading their shorter stuff, no matter how much hype there is here.

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>when I was younger
>"Lol the curtains were just red, who cares, why am I being told to find subjective conclusions and being judged as if they're objective?!"

>When I was older and smarter
>"The curtains were red for a very intelligent reason by the genius author, a reason which gives maximum insight in to human nature and the objectivity of aesthetics, not that I will dare ask why I should care about those or why everything is so obscurantist!"

>when I reached my final form

Literary Theory, as it is practised and as a whole is a set of intentionally vague, contradictory, and ever changing rules that create a logical system used by the academia-media-publishing industrial complex in order to monopolise the judgement of art, secure government funding, compete in the form of social posturing (by far the strongest reason), promote a large government, and guilt trip insecure members of the public in to paying for and proclaiming enjoyment of art.

>inb4 you say "I don't know art but I know what I like" in a non RP accent

I'm not even passing judgement on the "value" of this dominant version of "literary theory". I'm simply awaiting the butthurt that will inevitably commence just from pointing out that other forms can exist and not genuflecting towards the dominant form.
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literary theory is a bunch of retarded crap made up so that english profs can feel like their field is as specialized and inscrutable to outsiders as the sciences.
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>>8877065
dont get me wrong i hate my professor / advisor as much as anyone else and think he's kinda fulla crap. but derrida was entertaining for a while. so were frye and trilling and sometimes barthes
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Whoa...so this the power of the Playstation 4...

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>Machado De Assis

>The Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas
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>>8877056
THANK YOU.
forgot about that book.

also
>The Waves
>Virginia Woolf
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>>8877056
>Dostoyevsky
>The Brothers Karamazov.
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>>8877106
"No!"

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I never knew reading could feel like jizzing, until I read this book. this is word Jizz.
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yeah, gass is a genius, its really good when he uses word-that-begins-with-letter next to word-that-begins-with-same-letter. how does he think of so many words that begin with the same letter? anyway it triggers my word asmr like nothing else.
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>>8876961
Alliteration
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One word:
Fart.

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How is this show relative to the quality of the book?
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>>8876944
Kek
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>>8876944
From what I've heard it doesn't follow the book at all.
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>>8877015

Only loosely.

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