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can anybody read this and please tell me what it means, thank you.
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>>8928112
baka senpai desu
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kill all gaijin
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>>8928112
hòuhuĭ: to regret or repent

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>People still write Philosophy after this book
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Nietzsche
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>>8927987
>Nietzsche
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>>8927959
DUDE YOU CANT KNOW NUFFIN LMAO

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why haven't you read my book yet anons? it's not because I'm....... you know...
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>>8927948
Please, just stop. You aren't convincing anyone, you're just shitting up the board.
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>>8927948
I remember
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>>8927956
No, this is like an actual /lit/ thing. Look it up in the archive.

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Is it better to read the Iliad in prose or verse? Is pic related any good?
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Depends. Do you want to know what the book is about or do you want pretty sounding words that in no way can approach the original greek sound and rhyme?
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>>8927893
>is the iliad good

it's probably the best work of fiction ever written.
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>>8927926
A bit of both to be honest. Basically I want it to be as pleasing to read as possible whilst still retaining authenticity. I've heard pic related is the most accurate prose.

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Know nothing about Buddhism but I'd like to learn about it. What books should I read? Any charts?
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>>8927879
What the Buddha Taught by Walpola Rahula for a proper introduction to the core beliefs from a perspective within the religion.

The Foundations of Buddhism by Rupert Gethin for a more historical overview written by a sympathetic western academic.

Mindfulness in Plain English by Bhante G if you're looking to begin a practice.

Or dig straight in the Dhammapada if you want to read directly what the Buddha purportedly said. Alternatively there's a nice anthology from Oxford called Saying of the Buddha translated by Rupert Gethin which has a more varied selection of teachings from the massive Pali Canon.

If you're more interested in, for example, Zen or Tibetan flavours of Buddhism I would reccommend the Rupert Gethin Foundations of Buddhism as a jumping off point as it briefly covers both the core doctrine and some sectarian beliefs.
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>>8928248
definitely start with What The Buddha Taught but In the Buddha's Words is also a great beginner book to introduce you to Buddhism. Might want to read both

when interested in Zen I will also recommend reading the Daodejing since Chan/Zen has been influenced by it after all and then you might want to follow that up with Transmission of Light by Zen Master Keizan
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>>8927879
read Imperial-way Zen

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ITT we laugh at the intellectual dishonesty, utter stupidity, and moral bankruptcy of /pol/'s holy bible, Mein Kampf.

If one asks the naive question 'What was on Hitler's mind when he acted so cruelly against the Jews?', one can sort the answers into four levels which perfectly fit the four levels of allegorical reading already elaborated in medieval hermeneutics:

• First, there is the notion of pure, primitive hatred: Hitler hated the Jews in his guts, viscerally, and his 'theoretical' foundations were mere secondary rationalizations of this 'irrational' attitude, which dominated him beyond his conscious control.

• Then there is the notion of Hitler as a 'mountebank', a conscious manipulator who feigned his hatred for the Jews, and other political convictions, simply in order to attain power, his only true goal.

• Then there is the notion that Hitler and his inner circle of collaborators were 'sincerely' convinced that the Jews were evil, and that they were annihilating them for the good of the Aryan race and of humanity as such. Even the fact that some of the executioners were ashamed of their acts, and the need to conceal them from the public, can be reconciled with this 'sincerity': they believed that the majority of Germans werenot yet fully aware of the necessity of the harsh measures (extermination of the Jews) which would secure their future -
this was the line adopted by Himmler in his infamous speech to the special SS troops in 1943. The myth of betrayal, Hitler's ultimate, founding lie, also fits into this frame: the notion that the German army was far from defeated in autumn 1918 - it was the 'November Criminals', the corrupted (mostly Jewish) politicians, who signed the surrender of November 1918. The truth, of course, was that in autumn 1918 the German armies
were collapsing, Germany's borders were about to be overrun; the generals who later claimed to be on the verge of victory before being stabbed in the back were actually eager for the politicians to save them from the public humiliation of military defeat by making some deal that would permit the generals to march home at the head of their troops rather than fleeing ignominously. The generals forced the politicians to do the deal
to save face for them, then stabbed the politicians in the back by claiming that they had been betrayed. It was this lie that created Hitler: at that moment, Hitler had a total physical and mental collapse, unable to accept the national catastrophe; he found a solution in a hallucinatory summons - a visionary voice told him that this defeat resulted from the politicians' stab in the back, and that his mission was to remedy this betrayal.

cont.
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Hitler:
>the English are retarded lmao Americans are fags
American and British polacks:
>Hitler loved me
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• Finally, there is the notion of Hitler as a demonic 'artist of evil', who pursued the annihilation of the Jews not in spite fits evil character (this brings us back to the second level), but because of its evil character. The fundamental argument against the 'sincerity' of the Nazi belief is their treatment of the Jews before their physical annihilation: in a torturous process of physical and mental humiliation, they first deprived them of their human dignity, reducing them to a subhuman level, and only then killed them. In this way, they implicitly acknowledged the humanity of the Jews: while they claimed that the Jews were in fdct like rats or vermin, they first had to reduce them brutally to that status. This cynicism is supremely expressed in a Nazi documentary about the Jews , which shows as the proof of their subhuman status shots of the way they lived in dirt and decay in the Warsaw ghetto - that is to
say, in the very horror that the Nazis themselves had created. A further proof is provided by the multitude of practices which added the ironic insult to injury: the bands playing while the Jews marched to the gas chambers or to work, the notorious 'Arbeit macht frei!' inscription above the entrance to Auschwitz, and so on - unmistakable signs that the 'final solution' was carried out as a gigantic joke which submitted the victims to a supplementary act of gratuitous, cruel and ironic
humiliation. The awareness of some executioners that they were doing something horrible and shameful, which should be kept out of the public eye, also fits this level: the very awareness that what they were doing was an act of transgression of the minimal standards of decency not only established
between the perpetrators a secret bond of solidarity but provided the supplementary obscene jouissance - isn't it satisfying to do such horrible things under cover of sacrificing oneself for one's country?

The strange thing about these four answers is that although they are mutually exclusive, each of them is, in a way, utterly convincing. To resolve this deadlock, one should first qualify the second option: what if Hitler was a fake manipulator who none the less got caught up in his own game - who started to believe his own faked myth? Even a superficial reading of Mein Kampf leaves us perplexed when we try to answer a simple question: does Hitler believe himself or not? The only consistent answer is:
both yes and no. On the one hand, it is clear that Hitler consciously 'manipulates': sometimes - say, when he emphasizes how, in order to dominate the crowds and arouse their passions, one should present them with a simplified image of the one great Enemy on whom all the blame is put - he even directly shows his cards. On the other hand, it is no less clear that he gets passionately immersed in his own deception.
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>>8927717
>reviewing books that might as well be subtitled "my art school years"
somehow i think you're more optimistic about where this is going than when other anons do the same thing and pretend to take the fault in the stars seriously as a sociological and literary set of phenomena. your prose style suggests that hope to be unfounded.

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Are there books about the experience of being a lonely, alienated, misanthropic and purposeless NEET in [current year]?
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>>8927701
Your diary
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>>8927710
I don't keep one because there's so little happening in my life that I stopped writing in it years ago.
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>>8927752
Make something happen

It appears that Huxley envision of the world has became to be more correct than Orwell. He feared "that what we love will ruin us" , referring to a distraction filled society, where we are more worried about celebrity gossip than whats actually happening in the world. Such a trivial and preocupied culutre woudlnt care for whats happening out side they safe little bubble even though all th einfortmation is truely right in from of them, the truth is simply drowned in a sea of pure irrelevance.

Thoughts? who's envision of society is most accurate for what we currently live in, Huxley or Orwell?

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i don't think orwell was trying to predict the future, i think he was satirising what was already happening in the soviet union at the time
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i swear to fucking god i've read this exact amazing post with the same insightful reply at least twice a year since 2010
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>>8927622
Why does it matter? A vast majority of people in all time periods were simply the stupid, passive herd. Only a few great men in each generation rise to become greater than mediocrity.

The same "egoism" your post talks about is the same one that makes people think that everyone can make a difference, but that's not true. What harm is it if the masses can have their bread and circus?

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Started reading Ulysses. So far I enjoy it but it's kinda weird. What's going on in there?
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What's going on here?
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>>8927499
What are you even asking? What's your question? You don't even fucking tell us what chapter you're on.
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>>8927515
No, no, I'm talking about the whole book. He writes about many so to seem not necessary things, so I'm kinda confused what does he actually want to say.

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Are there any other philosophers that will get you as much pussy as Hegel gets you?
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>>8927426
Zizek. Bitches love coke.
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>>8927426
Nope.
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>>8927426
Where should one start with Hegel?

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Let's discuss the greatest literary achievement of 2016.
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>>8927350
Don't bother, these dweeby pseudo-intellectual cucks are too busy crying over poetry to get it
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>>8927350
What is this?
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>>8927350
Put some of the stock from chamonix antiques into storage tomorrow, some of those pieces are alright.

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Do you promise if i spend 30 min of every day in this year at writing, i will stop being talentless hack? Promise, please
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I promise
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i became an avid reader three months ago...
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>>8927306
I promise nothing, you lazy hack.

Looking for old ass epic poems.

Homer's The Iliad
Homer's The Odyssey
Virgil's The Aeneid
Ovid's Metamorphoses
The Mahabharata
The Epic of Gilgamesh
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John Milton - Paradise Lost
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>>8927756
Almost forgot:
Dante - The Divine Comed
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Not old, but I've been meaning to read The Lusiads for a while now.

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>21 year old
>writing a book about politics
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>>8927228
Good novel. Not as good as Mein Kampf but still
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>>8927228
I read it and I regret having done so. Most of the alt-right 'celebrities' are just out to make a quick buck. They don't understand the ideology, let alone care about it.

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Was Horace just a meme poet?
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>>8927171
No one reads him nowadays.
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>>8927192
People hardly read anything nowadays.
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>>8927192

Just order his Odes and Epodes

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