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I don't think there were a lot of places they didn't wreck.

They didn't slaughter native populations if the native populations gave them stuff and didn't fight them.

If they did, we wouldn't have either China or Russia, and the world would be dramatically better.

>>1578729
The Mongols weren't about wiping out Islam. The Mongols ate that shit up like it was horse-jerky. They did not ethnically cleanse anybody because they found all cultures had something to provide. Many Mongols adopted the faiths and customs of the peoples they conquered. All that would have happened if the Mongols conquered the entire Middle East is that there would have been another Khanate or two once things fell apart.

>>1578749
Actually, the military Mongol ruler of the middle east at the time was Christian. Helugu

>>1578410
Ignore that map. It's pure bullshit.

And of course. All ancient civilizations had slavery. Hunnic slaves turn up in Priscus and Procopius I believe.

>>1578410
Huns never controlled that much of the Caucasus, the Sassanids literally wrecked an army of Huns outside of Ctesiphon and again in Armenia/Georgia.

>>1578432
They didn't control anything other than the Pannonian Basin and a few other surrounding tributary tribes. People forget that the Huns were on the move, they didn't hold Alania at the same time as Sirmium hundreds of miles away.

>>1578330

Poor ruse, but Obama actually is a descendant of slaves through his mother.

>>1578334
>hurr

>>1578334
It is not meant to be a bait or a ruse.
I am legitimately curious.

I said almost all blacks.Obviously there is immigration too,not just slave trade.

Didn't the majority come from slavery?were there blacks in brazil and in usa before the europeans brought them?

>>1578318
>det är icke mig börjar att spela

WTF I hate Sweden now

>Growing popular sympathy for the Vietnamese National Liberation Front seems to have pervaded a number of countries in the late 1960s and early 1970s. The first signs of such sympathies in Sweden occurred in the late ‘60s, when the government stopped permitting the sales of the Carl Gustav M45, aka the Swedish K submachine gun, to the United States, which until then had been a weapon of choice among CIA and MACV-SOG operatives. The first explicit signs of Swedish support for the VC, however, emerged on May 27, 1971, when Foreign Minister Torsten Nilsson announced that Sweden had sent $550,000 worth of medical and humanitarian aid to the NLF, as well as to communist forces in Laos and Cambodia.
He hastened to emphasize, however, that none of that aid took the form of weaponry, leaving yet another bit of irony to the Vietnam War: the only Swedish ordnance to see combat use in Vietnam was used primarily by the Americans.

>>1578308
Conquerers always talk up their enemies to make themselves seem amazing.

>>1578308
Turns out that everyone the Mexica had subjugated hated them and the Spaniards used that to their advantage. Who would have guessed?

>>1578308
Combination of a brilliant Cortez and a very fractured and resentful "empire". That bubble was probably bound to pop at the next bad harvest or plague. That's not to diminish Cortez' feats though, he got it to pop in just the way he wanted.

>>1578253
Basic economics and economics in one lesson.

>>1578253
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics

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>>1578253
https://courses.byui.edu/econ_150/econ_150_old_site/Lesson_01.htm#Section_01

>>1578211
They dont need to

>>1578211
Nomadic lifestyle? Is that a good enough answer?

>>1578211

Hunter-gathering don't go well with state building. You need much more effective method of food procurement in order to feed people whose main occupation is running the state.

>>1578187
The pope was most likely fucking little children and didnt give a fuck.

>>1578187
>Why did Austria unite with protestants (Prussia) and orthodox (Russia) to attack another catholic country (PLC)?

Because they saw an opportunity for aggrandizement.


>What did Pope think about this?

Didn't give a fuck.

>>1578187
Who cares about poles?

>>1578085
>I keep reading that the Marshall plan was key to Germany's economic recovery after the war. Is this just sticky Cold War propaganda, or is there actual truth to it?
It's about half-and-half. One needs only look at the halves of Germany to see this. The USSR kept trying to take shit away from the DDR. The USA poured resources into the FRG. DDR still fared very well compared to pretty much any other Soviet state, however, it was not anywhere near as prosperous as the FRG. So it was important, but Germany being Germany was another important factor.

>As far as I can tell the Allies extorted much more wealth from Germany than the US lended to it between 48-52?
It's called an investment with positive returns.

>>1578122
>One needs only look at the halves of Germany to see this. The USSR kept trying to take shit away from the DDR. The USA poured resources into the FRG. DDR still fared very well compared to pretty much any other Soviet state, however, it was not anywhere near as prosperous as the FRG.

You attribute that to the MP? Not the difference between capitalist and socialist economy?

>>1578085
>I keep reading that the Marshall plan was key to Germany's economic recovery after the war
Stop reading American sources then. Marshall plan mattered only in the lens of American propaganda, Germany and the rest of Europe were already recovering and rebuilding when it got instituted and it represented, at best, a small bump.

Also the plan isn't extensive enough to seriously rebuild the economy by itself, not when it comes to some of the largest economies in the world. You can see it with Greece today, the EU, the largest single economy in the world, barely managed to bail out Greece and Greece itself is a relatively minor economic force. All of EU could never bail out Spain or Italy not to mention France or Germany.

Don't get me wrong, Marshall plan helped but it's been MASSIVELY overplayed by American Cold War propaganda as some sort of crucial element of Europe's post war economic miracle which, frankly, I consider insulting. Europe's post war miracle came because of Europe and not because of America.

First king of Portugal was from France and had a red beard IIRC, whereas Portuguese natives are black-as-night Arab Muslims.

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>>1577957

>>1577915

All the European royal families are closely related only to each other, not their subjects. But they don't look "barely like them," since all euros look pretty similar anyway.

>>1577900
What do you have to lose by being moral?

>>1577912
Pleasure

>>1577900
Morality and compassion should come naturally and spontaneously. Otherwise it is fake and you will always be trapped in this cycle of action and reward.

Wtf I hate marx now

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>>1577811
>Marxist economics
e(I −A)u = e(I −A)(I −A)^−1 l = el = L = Y = e(I −A)p, therefore...

>Reaganomics
dude just cut taxes lol, the free market will fix everything and the wealth will trickle down

>>1578002
>trickle down meme

Conservatives are frequently in favor of cutting taxes across the board, try again.

Is it me or is /his/ invaded by roaches today?
First the Armenian genocide denial thread, then the 'Turkey dindu nuffin wong' Cyprus one and now this

>>1577710
You mean this? >>1577556

How is it "Turkey dindu nuffin"? The thread is full of Turk hate anyways

The only cancer invading this board is /int/ butthurt. This board should be for people who have in interest in history because they genuinely like history, not because of politics or whatever people they don't like boohoo ;(

Stay in your respective board >>>/int/

>>1577694
I don't think any combined Turkish-Greek state could actually last. Hence the population exchange, they can't stand eachother.

The loss of Constantinople is universally regarded as a terrible mistake in Greece though. Claiming it was one of the objectives in the Greco-Turkish war but this ended very badly for the Greeks, they lost Constantinople and some of the surrounding territory. At this point, short of Turkey becoming some ISIS puppet state requiring NATO intervention, I don't see Istanbul ever becoming Greek again. Putin has made some threats but that's just Putin being Putin.

The height of Byzantium was in the 6th century

Or if you want to get technical with it, the 2nd century

A Social History of Byzantium - J. Haldon

>>1577470
The 11th century is when Constantinople as a city was at its height. My bad, I should have specified that I was referring to the city itself, and not the Empire as a whole.

>>1577425
who who, who who

>>1577425
Jurchens rebranded by Hong Taiji.

Glorious aryan germanic peoples