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>steady paying bills past year
>recently unemployed
>mom refuses to pay internet bill
>on verge of getting disconnected
>no savings and she makes min wage
>wont pay it no matter how much i badger

honestly NEED internet to make money, im a web dev. what do? i have $700 in my account. Do i rent a room and live month to month?? I refuse to bail her out by paying it. Its my last cheque and ive paid everything for a full year. what do
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ps the bill is 400, more than half of my entire net worth. pretty pathetic. i refuse to bail her out by paying though. i only asked that she pay 200 id pay the rest. really pissed off
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>>1651678
how the fuck are you paying $400 a month for internet?
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>>1651679
I pay 150 for cable/internet. this stupid bitch watches the cable I do not. 2 months + late fees = 400. i said id pay half

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I lost all of my money betting on the austrian election.
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>>1651644
who won? Hofer?
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what are good betting sites?
also results havent been told yet
hoffer is winning a lot of states right now
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>>1651659
Hofer conceded earlier today

I'm starting to think becoming rich is a meme and it's all down to luck.
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The stats say otherwise.

high net worth people all have similar characteristics.
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>>1651626
which are...
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>>1651623
It comes down to risk taking and money management.

You're already off to a bad start by thinking it all comes down to luck. Luck is bullshit. Stop listening to Chief Warren and thinking everything is unfair. Grow some balls.

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I've been thinking about the 2008 financial crisis and it got me wondering. People like to pin the blame on the banks for handing out sub-prime mortgages like candy.

But isn't the root cause of the issue due to people not paying back these loans on time thereby causing a lack of liquidity?

Basically, dead beat members of society couldn't pay back their loans is what caused it.

Am I wrong here?
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Yes. The lenders lied to the people about rates to put it simple. . . BRB lending someone I know can't pay back money for a home
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>>1651590
I see your point but it feels kind of one-sided to me. How are the people that accepted these loans any less to blame?
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>>1651605
Human are cattle, can't be trusted, there needed to be regulations.

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Hello.

I have recently read Intelligent Investor by Graham and some other books like Kiyosakis Rich Dad Poor Dad or The Idiot by Dostoyewski (and a few more from Annual /biz/ lit.).

I want to start INVESTING.

I have now broker account in ING bank and I can buy polish stock market stocks and few investing funds which are shit in general I think.

I can start buying ING BSK index fund S&P500 without dividents (reinvested). But... Here is the problem.

The taxation is: 5% for everything bought (like I buy something for 1000 I pay 50, I buy 100 and pay 5.). The second tax is 1,9% a year from capital (tax for administrating this account). As far as I know no more taxes for that that I know about.

Is that high tax? Everything that? Assuming I would be buying every month a share for $20-30. Is ING BSK index S7P 500 even worth trying? I do not have so much knowledge to pick single stocks and buy.

Please, help a newfriend.

>pic related, me now
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>>1651546
>5% tax on anything bought
>1.9% tax on capital (?)
>1% to broker fees
>1.6% gone due to inflation
>1.9% expense ratio on ETF (yikes)
I don't see any money here.
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>>1651584
Wrong? No fees like 1% and second 1,9%. Only 1,9% from whole amount a money on account a year but capitapized daily.

Why no money? SP500 is awesome according to Graham ans can give me 10-20%!

Maybe I translated somethinf wrong, I am from Poland and english is my second lang.
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>>1651604
I tried looking up ING BSK index fund, it says it has an expense ratio of 1.9%, that is the cost of tracking the S&P. Something like VOO in America has an expense ratio of 0.05%.

S&P500 is definitely good, but you should estimate 8% a year. This calculator automatically reinvests dividends, and using stock symbol SPY or VOO you can see the annualized return.

https://dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

I say just come to America.

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>he isn't shorting ETH
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>shorting
Have fun going bankrupt when it pumps out of fucking nowhere

Anyone with a brain is all in on BTC.
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>>1651545
>Have fun going bankrupt when it pumps out of fucking nowhere

Except that won't happen.

With that said btc is probably going back to consolidation for a week or so, so it might be a good idea to wait for a retracement to 105/11 before shorting again.
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>>1651557
>what is FPO
>what is italy

kys

I want to learn computer programming, but im not sure if i should go to school for it, or learn it on my own.
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>>1651527
You aren't gonna make it. It's a meme and can only come true if you began coding since you're 8
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>>1651534
But a buddy of mine barely atarted back in 2010 and hes really good and makes good money.
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you can easily learn it from home, but it takes a lot of dedication and youll most likely get completely sick of it before you get anywhere

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What is the maximum percentage down payment you should put on a house?
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>>1651480
About 100%.

If you put more then 100% of the full price of the house, you are losing money.
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>>1651494
As much as you can if you can't find a way to make more than your interest rate with the rest if your money so meet else.

Don't even do it if you don't have enough to get around PMI.

(I put down 1/3 purchase price.)
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Unless your age, income, or other factors prohibit you, it's best to put as little down as possible without incurring penalties. (Assuming US-type fixed-rate mortgages).

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Your time to get in is running out.
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time to short. make a profit, and set up buy orders, and make a profit again during the bounce. easy money
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>>1651431
Bitcoin is illiquid as fuck. Takes me a week to bank transfer funds to even buy this shit.
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>>1651436

there is an usd exchange now: https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/173

Hi /biz/

I am a mechanical engineer (have a masters, a post graduation and a bachelors in renewable energy engineering) living in London, working as a project manager.

I'm not all that into engineering and think that there's a lot more money to be made in finance related jobs.

After applying for a few dozen jobs - and not getting any answers back - I'm thinking of doing some sort of masters in Finance that may, hopefully, open some doors.

I'm thinking of the following: http://www.lsbf.org.uk/programmes/postgraduate/finance/ma

Any thoughts? Is it a big mistake? Is it a meme?

TLDR: How to get a job in a hedge fund or similar without financial background.
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>>1651339
bumpity
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>>1651339
What about a consulting job? Maybe you can persuade your current employeer to finance you an MBA? Don't just apply to firms, talk to different HR departments about your plans.
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>>1651377
Not enough experience for consulting.

And I'm not really familiar on the way the financial industry is structured. All I know is folks in hedge funds seem to be making a boat load and I want some of it.

>red pill me on the £ industry

How far will ETH fall today?
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I have it up on my big screen and pretend I'm day trading
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>>1651414

damn dude you look like ETH fucked you hard
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What chances do we have of ETH rising again? Will there be an excellent opportunity to buy at the bottom of this decline, or will ETH hit rock bottom and never recover?

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>be me
>be fastfood wageslave
>saved $5000, for a whole year
>got memed into buying ETH from /biz/
>bought at 0.020, thinking it would increase
>price is now 0.10

How do i recover from this?
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Don't go all-in on something as speculative and volatile as crypto. Write it off as an expensive lesson, don't get desperate trying to make it back.
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>>1651317
try r9k
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>>1651325
>>1651310
>>1647600
>>1648508

Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than call out every /r9k/ related thread on biz?

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>tfw I'm not good at anything I do

How do I profit from this /biz/?
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>>1651306
you can try r9k
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kneepad
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>>1651306
Get good at something >>1651313 such as sucking dick you pathetic frogpsoster.

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hi /biz/,
/his/ here. im not really at home with economics, so here goes

i want to know about risks of buying european treasuries. if i were to buy a share of money market fund, comprised of portugese, italian and spanish t-bills, what would happen if euro goes the way of the dodo? if italy breaks with the euro and revives the lira, what would happen with their t-bills?

i have a share in the bond fund of a certain fund management company, where i can change my shares to whatever i want without paying any taxes, so i'm looking for a safe investment in the time of economic bubbles and falling bond funds.

for example, the composition of the said MM fund:
BKS BANK AG - DEPOSIT 19.65% PORTUGAL T-BILL 09/22/2017 - MON.MKT.INST. 14.65% SPAIN T-BILL 02/17/2017 - MON.MKT.INST. 11.27% PORTUGAL T-BILL 05/19/2017 - MON.MKT.INST. 9.86% ITALY T-BILL 01/13/2017 - MON.MKT.INST. 8.45% PORTUGAL T-BILL 07/21/2017 - MON.MKT.INST. 7.04% ITALY T-BILL 05/12/2017 - MON.MKT.INST. 5.64% SPAIN T-BILL 12/09/2016 - MON.MKT.INST. 5.63% MERCATOR COMMERCIAL PAPER 11/21/2016 - MON.MKT.INST. 3.54% MERCATOR COMMERCIAL PAPER 06/05/2017 - MON.MKT.INST. 1.95%

i'd be much happier if their t-bills were from the US, naturally.

are money market funds safe in every economic enviroment? even in a crisis?

Thank you very much
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>>1651296
>are money market funds safe
if you ask this, you have no idea of volatility.
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>>1651838
that's why i'm here.


when i look at the chart, i see it's been quite stable during the 2008 crisis. it's been rising for the last 10 years.

are things that different now?
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>>1651984
op here btw

I need help developing this: it's an insurance company that is actually free for people.
Insurance companies charge monthly fees, which eventually they return back to some people in case of property loss.

If I make an insurance company that is a non-profit company, but whose goal is to provide the same service, only that at the end of the year, it returns you whatever money, the insurance company hasn't spent, redistributing to people that have losses.

1) people damaging their property to "try to make money", will actually have to report the damage, which does make their insurance premium go up, for this company and others in the market.

2) e.g.: 100 people, spend 100$/month, insuring their property, nobody has destruction in their property, at the end of the year, (10000$ - expenses) / 100. People get the cheques back in the mail.

3) Give me your best tips. thank you.
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>>1651293
if you give all the money back to people that don't have claims their money isn't in the pool at all.

so we ignore people that didn't make claims, they didn't contribute because you refunded their payments.

what this means is if someone does make a claim, you've got to cover it. So they contribute $100 and you pay them back $100,000. Obviously this is a good deal for them, but you'll be out of business in a matter of days.
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>>1651299
if on the other hand we take the second route, then the people that didn't have claims suddenly have to pay for the ones that did.

which isn't really fair, I'd have to wonder why my insurance goes up when other people make claims.
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>>1651299
thanks for comment.
1) money is not given back "ALL". Also, we wouldn't be able to reimburse people the entire sum.
2) as well, we wouldn't be able to reimburse exactly what people say they lost. If you declare, a million in losses, and the fund is 300$. Then you would get 300$.
3) The argument that I suspect you're thinking is that if everyone burns their house, and all file simultaneously. 1) to this wouldn't make sense, because if all members of Aflack would file their houses burnt, they would go into bankrupcy and not pay anyone anyways, 2) the other thing this is a non profit insurance, I don't see how this will encourage people up to that effect;


What do you think?
Currently, you pay premiums (if you have any type of insurance), and your premiums you never get it back, most of us, never have huge property dmg.

I appreciate your post., please give me more tips on this, or different scenarios.

Hopefully we can make something up that will help society as a group.

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