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Searched and didn't find a character art thread.

So if you'd be so kind, ladies and gentlemen, lend me your elves
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At what point does a game have too few skills and too many skills?

Like I see games like 3.PF that have over twenty skills to put points into but then I see games like Shadowrun that have over 50 skills (not including knowledge skills) and games like PbtA that don't even have skills at all.

If the aim of the game is to give you the most options, what's the least amount of skills required to cover everything but not so many that it becomes difficult to cover?
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I prefer the method used in games like Unknown armies, where players can design their own skills.
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>>53201622
>If the aim of the game is to give you the most options, what's the least amount of skills required to cover everything but not so many that it becomes difficult to cover?
Depends on the game. Are you designing a granular and generic system? Include all of the skills, perhaps too many, like GURPS does, and then include the option for drastically reducing the number of skills with Wildcard skills.

Are you making a specific game with a theme in mind? A skill list tailored to that game's themes with the granularity you want. There are important differences between Scholar!, History, and History (20th-century America).
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The way I look at it is, if the game doesn't have any mechanic for substituting one skill for another or ensuring that related groups of skills grow together to some degree, then it had better have a short and broad skill list. If your skills are too numerous and too specific you're going to end up with a lot of lopsided characters, like the greatest fencer in the world who somehow can't throw a punch to save his life, or a professional dancer with terrible balance.

In this situation I think you want about a dozen skills at most - Fate Core or D&D 4e are good examples. But if you go this route then you probably want a separate mechanism to indicate what proficiencies you have for those really specialised skills, e.g. you might have great Craft and Speech ratings but unless the game is extremely freeform you'll want to be able to reference aspects or backgrounds or something to say actually you're a trained aeronautical engineer who speaks Farsi.

You can also go the GURPS or Shadowrun route and have lots of highly specific skills but allow for buying groups at a discount, using one skill as default for another and so on... but I'm not really a fan of this approach for a number of reasons, the primary one being that not all skills are created equal, and the more you have that are bought with the same resource the greater the chances are that you're making players spend their limited resources on what is essentially fluff - the mechanic above might have spent as many build points on speaking Farsi fluently as other characters put into shooting their primary weapon, so he's essentially being punished for adding background detail.

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How do I extract web from Drow?
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somebody post the greentext with the eastern refugee drow
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>>53201368
use pliers
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>>53201368

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>There are people that actually want female SM.
What the shit.
Good thing it's "mini-driven"
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> anon finds out there are people who disagree with him on the Internet
> anon barely survives this traumatic experience
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>>53200213
>Implying not wanting SJWs to murder the lore is simple disagreement
>implying SJWs know anything about 40k and just saw space marines and no women in them

what are the Sisters of Battle
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>>53200233
>implying these are SJWs and not NEET who want more wank fuel

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Hello again, /tg/. Welcome to Day 1 of the 2017 Spring Babby Cup!

>What the fuck is this?

A virtual divegrass tournament run in Pro Evolution Soccer and streamed for the enjoyment of anons everywhere.

>Why the fuck should I care?

Dank memes, top bants, bragging rights, and hype by the bucket load. For more info see implyingrigged.info

After the shakiest of starts during the Qualifiers, /tg/ kept their cool to make it back to the main event on the back of nothing but patrician 1-1 draws. It's onwards and upwards from here, fa/tg/uys and ca/tg/irls.

Tonight we're facing off long-time Cup residents /f/ at 20:20 UTC (4pm EDT).
>implying the Cup is ever on time

But that's not all! Our good buddies /co/ face off against /r9k/ in the final game of the day, set for 21:40 UTC (5:40pm EDT).

So, the stage is all set. All that's left is for us to take the field and roll the dice. GET HYPE AND WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
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>>53200032
We have a discord server set up for all things /tg/ Cup-related. So pop in if you want to talk about the team or just anything in general. https://discord.gg/011qOR7qt0vo3Siiv
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>team 40k

When does /tg/ get its own team?
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I got a question, why is Creed no longer on the team and why do we suck now?

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>ask my friends if they want to play a 5e campaign because i have something in mind
>>nah, it's too bland
>suggest 3e instead
>>nah, it's too imbalanced
>suggest we play some other system, i dig other things
>>what do you have in mind
>how about shadowrun?
>>nah it's too complicated and the narrative is too limiting, it's always basically the same
>how about call of cthulhu then
>>it's too niche and the system is boring

whoever says the solution of "i'm not playing anything" is to start your own group and GM yourself is wrong
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You're friends are either shit or don't actually want to play. probably both.
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Have a look to see if your LGS has RPG nights. Might be a better way of finding people who are keen to play.
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>>53199116
>cthulhu is too niche
Shit taste.

>narrative is too limiting
Ah, so they're freeform faggots then?

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Do you have a set of house rules when gaming, anon? Not the rules you make up for the game, but the ones for the table and home where people are gaming. I usually stick to these:

>no mobile devices
>no pen or pencil tapping
>no food on the table unless it's snack time
>everyone must use a coaster, no exceptions
>do not throw the dice across the room
>do not bend cards
>do not flick counters
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>no mobile devices
>he doesn't use the glorious anti-cheating-faggot measure that is a dice-roller app

>coasters
OH NO
YOU'VE DONE IT NOW OP
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I have some basic rules

>players must be able to do 5 pushups or run a 5k
>must be able to write in cursive
>must be able to drive or ride a bike
>no new rocks, converse, crocs or skechers
>no tracksuits, sweatpants, tighty-whities or t-shirts
>no backpacks or fanny packs

That helps get rid of fatties, children and special ed kids
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>>53198478
...you could just ban the things you don't like directly instead of trying to ban stereotypes you associate with them.

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I'm starting a new campaign and the players rolled mostly the standard stuff, but we've also got an orc and a gnoll. And I'm thinking how humans would look at these buggers entering their villages - and by the same token, started to think the opposite, how the party would look when entering a gnoll tribe.

Lynch mobs and shit like that might be the most logical consequence, but it's also boring as shit. I'm thinking of something lighter, like being just sort of unpleasant and vaguely antagonistic without going downright hostile.

What kind of fun shenanigans could come up out of these culture clashes? Any good racial slurs humans might have towards gnolls, or orcs towards dwarves for that matter? Any plot hooks or tiny little city events and encounters resulting from this?
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Pigface
Tuskies
Momma's boys (hyena matriarchy be crazy)
He-bitches
Dogface
And the all purpose "brutes" or "savages"
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>>53197525
>Momma's boys (hyena matriarchy be crazy)
>Gnolls call humans "Daddy's daughters" instead
>Neither side thinks this is an insult
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Orc/Gnoll PC's get served rotten or raw meat "hey, you like this don't you?"

Bones get thrown at them in the streets, with taunts of "free food for the brute"!

Escalating provocation, trying to "prove" their animal nature. Any response leads to retaliation

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Noone else bothere Edition
Something about space furries Sub-edition


Find old bread here, you can read it yourself >>53172906

>Thread FAQ
http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8

>Official HH 7th Edition Errata (not updated since January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf

>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
http://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp

>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
http://pastebin.com/k9uvqsub
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2Ffz1OuHK%2Fcrusade-imperialis-army-lists.pdf.html
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2FZTK72gs%2Flegiones-astartes-age-of-darkness-army-list.pdf.html
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2F%23F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg

>/HHG/'s Legion demographics
http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764

>/HHG/'s allegiances
www.strawpoll.me/10663447

>Primarch Popularity Poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11458318

>STUFF ANONS ASK FOR
http://www49.zippyshare.com/v/aYWlVV9f/file.html
http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/heDZWytT/file.html
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First for the only children the Emperor loved
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>>53196960
Second for best legion
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You get to design and add one unit to the next FW black book.

It can be legion specific or generic, what do you do?

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Serious question for the DMs out there: is immersion a meme? I am not the most captivating speaker and I am not the most creative person but I am good enough at improvising content that I can usually keep a game running pretty well. I know I am at least an average GM.

Now from time to time we get this "oh by the way" itch while you are running the game, as some aspect of it reminds you of either something else that happened or some other shit. Now, after years of DMing I have realized that if you don't train yourself to suppress that ADHD urge, your game will continually get derailed. But sometimes I feel like I am the only person who has that. Now, I've played with groups ranging from a bunch of 50-something grognards to early teens to my normal group(s) who are in their early-to-mid-twenties. And I have played quite a bit with my family. Now the older folks are pretty low-energy but still quite focused which is good. There is still plenty of humor and joking but the game is focused. And when I play with my family (when I get the chance) we are focused and get shit done.
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But when I play with my friends I feel like every other word is some off-topic shit. I completely lose my immersion in the game. And on the occasions we play with a subset of the group and get into the roleplaying, we REALLY get into it. Like, I forget where I am, like a good movie, it really sucks me in. But this is becoming more and more the exception. I've considered a "no phones" rule because players will be showing us memes in the middle of me trying to talk and shit. And will be talking about random animes or star wars shit, or will mention something and all the sudden it's "OMG you haven't seen that youtube video? he needs to see it right now!"

Is this my fault? They love the campaign and love my GMing, they shower me with adulation even though I have many flaws I am aware of. Is there a way to get them more immersed? I've been running games for years, I foreshadow and cliffhanger without even being aware of it until later, I run the combats when they happen like a well-oiled machine. yet it's still not enough? Am I alone in this issue? Is there a solution?

Also sorry for literally copy pasting a thread I made last night but it kinda died before I got many replies.
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Different groups find different things satisfying. For some, that deep immersion and a few hours of heated roleplay is ideal. For others, the game is a setting for socialization. Ask your groups which they prefer; if they want the deep shit, put that much extra effort in and make them relish it. If they just want a beer and pretzels night, that opens up other things as well; besides the different atmosphere and humor you could try running some different board games every once in a while, or trick them into roleplaying with Everyone is John or something.
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Fuck immersion.

Some people play rpgs not to be the epiphany of storytelling but to have fun with friends. Stop trying to force a group out of badwrongfun reasons.

The only thing that is real at the table are the player. Immersion can be cool, but in the end you are still playing a game and not everyone wants to act as a fictional character in the same way.

Ask the group if they want to be immersed or if they feel comfortable with the fun they have. You are the problem if you want others to be immersed without their buy in.

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I'm rich edition

>resources
pastebin.com/Cb3X4ZKW

>General's Handbook pdf
mega.nz/#!DxRGmTZL!x_L0eobCjr4qrF7enhVlZ2DffTtRa3hdDrc5RctcAbE

>army builder
scrollbuilder.com

Previous thread: >>53162163

>Rumors of GHB2: Same ability no longer stack; point increase for all 9"+ shooting unit; prayer is limited to rule of one...
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First for wood elves!
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[Autistic rattling noises]
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Reminder

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Citadel Painting Guides:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/drb4mezm6792i/not_citadel_nothing_to_see_here

>Figure painter magazine issues 1-36
https://mega.nz/#F!0AIGDAxL!xOT6MK3oiGpBB1pQaNy5lg

>Paint range compatibility chart across manufacturers
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart

>Painting Videos only
https://mega.nz/#F!fkcliY4L!mhdmIs2lT3mFG3VwoLO8Qw
https://mega.nz/#F!XEJSFDCL!9ZZKiLi6M_wguI1uTpyjPg
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WUsUlSLb!556OumKLhusFd9Fw5dBMdA

>DIY Lightbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxzC5kqbyw

>DIY Spraybooth
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/pa_booth.htm

>DIY Wet Palette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96mjmqWTPfM

>How to Moldlines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4LZ8iCSkeU

>Fuckin Magnets how do they work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Tkw7ttTIo
http://www.miniwargaming.com/magnet-guide
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297605-tutorial-magnetisation/

>List of mini manufacturers for converting and proxy
http://pastebin.com/p6bVhGsg

>Stripping Paint (yes, the ellipses are part of the URL!)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Dakka_Modeling_FAQ:_How_to_Strip...

>Priming With Acrylic Gesso
https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Priming_With_Acrylic_Gesso

>Green Stuff Casting
http://fromthewarp.blogspot.com/2011/11/molding-and-casting-shoulderpads.html
http://masteroftheforge.com/2012/05/21/rubber-molds-green-stuff/
http://masteroftheforge.com/2012/07/17/green-stuff-cast-shoulder-pad/

>On the consequences of insufficient ventilation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_solvent-induced_encephalopathy
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg273.pdf

>Panther, I need Charlie Zone status. Report!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzWP-C8oDPw
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Reposting from old thread:

>>53188244
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Would any kind admech anons out their be willing to tell me the measurements for a kataphron battle servitor?

Been thinking of teching up some blightkings and running them as kataphrons for a dark mechanicum army but can't find any size details besides the size of he base. I don't want them to be too small.
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>>53188998
They make steel legion drab as a nice color, I think it'll be a lot easier to work with over a large amount of individuals than mustard yellow.

I used it on the pants and the bedrolls.

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Are Western or Eastern dragons cooler?
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>>53186879
Western ones are actual dragons by our definition

Eastern are more of serpents or wyrms.

They both have their place.
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they're both fine, whatever
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>>53186879
Generally, Northern dragons are cooler, because climate and stuff.

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Goblins or Kobolds? Which is the quintessential low-level enemy?
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Bandits
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Xvarts or Tasloi, clearly.
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Goblins. Kobolds can remain challenging into high levels.

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What's your favorite sort of fantasy weapon, anon? It can be as conservative or wild as you like, as long as you spit it out.

For instance, I'm a delusional shieldfag.
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>>53182762
I like typical fantasy weapons (swords, axes, what have you) but with ornate or impractical design flair.

But if I had to pick one fantasy weapon as my favorite I guess I'd go with spear.
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>>53182762
a gun that shoots swords that divide into daggers that explode
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>>53183150
>not using the double club

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