Bi biological guy here. I'm considering hrt but there are a couple of things that are holding me back. I don't consider myself truetrans because I fetishize about being a woman. I'm worried about negative health effects of hrt. Permanent sterility worries me too. Honestly i dont feel quite male or female... i just love crossdressing...I really respect the lgbt community alot and i want to get all of yalls input.
>>8643612
Don't mutilate your body. You will regret it.
The very first thing HRT does is kill your sex drive, which will kill your desire to crossdress and kill how you fetishize being a woman, defeating the whole purpose
>>8643612
>Honestly i dont feel quite male or female
What do you mean by that exactly?
Why exactly are you considering hrt?
Trump's White House is now claiming that transgender people have a mental disorder.
you can laugh but this could very well become public policy soon, as with transgender people no longer being allowed to serve.
>>8643583
Isn't that correct though? Being trans is a medical condition, gender dysphoria and neurological opposite-sex characteristics are the symptoms, the treatment is gender transition.
>>8643592
Just because something is a medical condition that effects people's brains doesn't automatically make it a mental illness, that's a very american/underage way of thinking about it.
May as well call victims of brain cancer crazy people.
>>8643603
what characterizes mental illness, in your opinion?
I wish we lived in a world where I could use my original male name, male pronouns, and still take HRT and live my life as a fully normal and integrated girl.
It feels like I'm lying either way right now. Like I'm lying to society by using a girl's name and pronouns when I'm actually a male, or I'm lying to myself by living my life as a male when the idea makes me horribly uncomfortable and unhappy in my own skin. It's either live a life I'm happy with but try to lie, or ignore my issues and live a life I hate. I don't mind being called by male name/pronouns, but I do mind living as a male, and that's kind of a package deal.
I know its stupid wanting to live and pass as a girl, be recognized as a male, and be a normal integrated person, all at the same time. And I understand why that can't ever happen. But to me, the idea of living and looking like a girl and being a male don't seem at all disparate. They both seem like perfectly normal parts of my life, and I feel kind of bad pretending like only one of those halves is valid.
Had to get that off my chest. Thank you /tttt/ for not limiting trans-rant threads. :)
>>8643506
It's a nice idea but at that point pronouns/names are genderless.
Just get over the hangup about calling yourself a girl.
>>8643506
you can do whatever you want, op. only the insecure retard that lives inside of you (as it does all of us) that cares what other people think is stopping you.
>>8643608
No, I think making an effort to fit in and integrate into society is important. Trying to look like a girl but get called a 'he' is just going to cause disruption at my workplace and church, and confuse my family (further). It'd be rude and selfish to ask that of any of them. All 3 already do enough by letting me transition in the first place and also work/worship/visit with them.
im finally starting electrolysis. i found an amazing little clinic with this cute lady who does it, she charges 350CAD for 5 hours with the machine.
she said that i should be doing 5 hours twice a month and thats obviously way too steep so im thinking of doing two sets of 2h30. is this a good idea? sorry i have no idea how this process works and im looking into people who already have gone through it to maybe give me a few pointers.
>>8643476
Whst color is your skin and what cornis your hair?
It hurts like hell, you'll probably not have the mental endurance without meds, your body will start to panic after a while.
Get some prescription with strong fast acting anxiety depressing medication. Then try first and hour, then two, etc.
When did you realize that cultural marxism was actually a thing and a bunch of degenerates roleplaying as girls but too lazy to transition are mocking a decade's long movement?
When did you realize that classifying every lifestyle you don't agree with as degenerate and caring how people choose to use their democratic freedoms is a waste of time?
>"Oh no, an anonymous anime imageboard poster thinks my lifestyle is bad, whatever will I do?"
>>8643368
They are free to do whatever they want individually, but they can't come up with BS as if they were the official represents of the LGBT community. They want to add their stupid letters as if they had experienced anything close to what the Gay and Lesbian community did in previous times, trans being there the whole fucking time.
Asexual, Demisexual, pansexual and queercunts just sound like they are common fucking people trying to victimize themselves and leech off what the LGBT has acquiered through decades of hard work.
Back in the human rights movements we were asking for equality, to be treated just like anyone else but now these pussies want special privilege for being the poor victims of society.
>inb4 selfhate
I am proud of who I am and of the people who fought for me in the past
>>8643440
Nobody cares, homo
Go pray for Röhm to reincarnate.
Why do I like acting all feminine and stuff when I'm alone? Why did I like pretending to be a girl online when I was younger? It makes no sense. I'm catholic, and I'm certainly straight, in the sense that the idea of sex with any non-trap/tranny male disgusts me. Well, so maybe not that straight but I'd puke over the thought of romantically dating another man. All of my loves and crushes so far were women, and I've felt nothing more than friendship for any other guy.
Then why am I like this? Did I get meme'd into it by all the trap porn and memes? Will being like this affect me in the long run? I want people to see me as manly, mature and dependable. I'm 6'2, a bit hairy, strong jawline and cheekbones, so at least in appearance I'm ok. But some of my closest friends have commented, jokingly, about my "girlyness" and "submissiveness".
>>8643328
it means youre a femmy man. as for a specific reason "why" nobody except your therapist would know.
Dad says the cell phones signals cause it
>>8643354
>youre a femmy man
Fuck, that's not what I want to be seen as. Also, would a therapist really be able to help? I'm very skeptical about therapists and psychiatrists in general
I'm 18 years old. I dont really know what I am. I have dildos and stuff. I feel submissive toward men, but dominant to women kinda? I dont know if im attracted to guys or not. I mean, I kinda like deep jaws, muscle, nice hair and dicks a bit. But I dont find a lot of guys irl I see around me attractive. Im a little into traps or whatever though i self insert a little.
Im not very manly, im a skinny hairless twink looking guy (though i shave off) so maybe it is a low test, low self esteem thing?
Idk if I like women, I feel more self conscious when im around girls over the guys I hang around. Idk. I kinda like women's butts a little, but I dont watch much straight porn. I tried looking at dominatrix porn but it was lame.
In general I just don't want to be gay. No one around me knows how I feel. I dont act like any fags with a lispy voice.
I know half my friends would think different of me if I was gay. My little brother woud make fun of me, my mom would hate me, my dad would be mildly disappointed.. I have no clue whats going on with myself.
Advice?
probably bisexual, not much else to say.
>>8643315
Do you like crossdressing or imagining you are a girl?
Sounds like you're leaning gay at the least, maybe bisexual. A straight guy doesn't usually write, "I kinda like deep jaws, muscle, nice hair and dicks a bit."
It sounds to me also like you have two other things going on:
1) Low testosterone. I'm an FtM, and the way you describe your attraction sounds to me like how I felt before taking T, e.g. a female libido. I was also really confused about my sexual orientation for a long time too, in part because my feelings weren't strong, so they were hard to sort out. I would go to your doctor and say that you're concerned your T is low for your age and you'd like it tested. Google for the effects of low T, see if any of them sound familiar. The "normal" male range is 300-1000 ng/dL total testosterone, but at your age you should probably be around 600-700ish.
2) Maybe you also haven't found the sort of person you're into, regardless of gender, or discovered the things you really like. Is there anything you're turned on by that you've sort of dismissed as too "weird" or seemingly unrelated to sex? There might be a clue there. Although if you've already considered BDSM porn, you may have explored that avenue already. Then again, a lot of it sucks. (Dominatrix porn especially, imo.)
I'm afraid that if you like guys, you're going to just have to get over what other people will think. Maybe some people you know will come around because they see you're a "normal" person to them and it doesn't change you.
Why do most straight trans women absolutely hate androphilic cis men, while most trans lesbians associate and relate well with gynephilic cis men?
At first I thought that Rei had a toilet seat on her face tbqh.
>>8643317
it does
>>8643307
Just like actual women, so-called straight trans women see the need to control male sexualities. They see gay men as threats for not being attracted to them.
Transbians on the other hand sympathize with men and can relate to men's gynephilia without looking at it through the social lens of wanting to control the "other" sex.
every time he gets shit on by the media, it's a trans woman doing it every time.
Really classy community, he's like 12
MTFs have no motherly instincts and take it out on children
>>8643268
isn't barron agp?
>it's a trans woman doing it every time.
Not true. Rosie is a trans man.
>>8643270
Also this. If Hitler had a kid, I wouldn't want him to experience what the left is doing to that poor boy. The thing with the Trump head is pretty fucking sad. Just imagine it, being that age and constantly hearing everyone talking about how they want to murder your dad because of stupid shit you can't possibly care about at that age, and then for a split second you believe it happened.
Gay guy here.
Would it be transphobic to not date mtfs?
But be fine with dating ftms because they're guys?
>Would it be transphobic to not date mtfs?
No that's better than dating them actually.
>But be fine with dating ftms because they're guys?
That's also fine.
>>8643262
If you're actually open to dating FtMs, that's kinda cool. Most gay guy's aren't. But you aren't obligated to, or to be attracted to anyone. It's not "transphobic" to not be attracted to someone, anon.
I don't even know why you'd consider dating MtFs at all, since they're women.
>>8643262
It just means you're attracted to them as a person rather than to what's in their pants. I think MtFs would be happy to know gay guys wouldn't date them.
Alright so if a guy is interested in me even though I'm trans, what are some indicators that he might just have a tranny fetish? I don't buy that whole "oh I didn't know you are trans" bullshit. I'm not looking for reasons to push the guy in question away, I just need to confirm it for myself because I'm really paranoid.
>>8643195
r u cute
Be a loving girlfriend and get his trust enough so that he willingly tells you. Then make like every woman does and dump his ass if you hear a response you don't like. Simple.
>>8643204
>Then make like every woman does and dump his ass if you hear a response you don't like.
Hi, Mom! What are you doing on the /lgbt/ board?
Do you feel bad about being a fag?
>>8643174
Every fucking day.
>>8643174
>Other men were born short, or fat, or dumb
>With work they can still reproduce at least
>We were born fags
>We will never reproduce
Only cause there's not that many other fags around.
What are /tttt/'s plans for the weekend? Will you go out and get your boipucci pounded or will you stay home LARPing as trans-bashing trolls LARPing as "concerned Conservative citizens" on a Japanese bonobo behavior-emulating fansite as usual, familia?
I'm going to play csgo and hate myself.
>>8642988
Why hate yourself? Are you trans?
>>8642983
Probably going to get stoned and then go to the Gilroy garlic festival on Sunday.
Is prostitution dangerous?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7lns0DhGFY
>>8642865
Yes, it is, dumbass.
Well it's a somewhat risky job.
But unless you're working in the illegal branch, you have little to worry about.
>>8642865
iggy azalea?
I can't be a tranny. I was happy as a man as a young kid, as a teenager, and I'm even indifferently content about it now. I only like being a girl when I crossdress on omegle and in humilliating fantasies.
I'm pretty sure i'm one of those olden time crossdresser hons in the body of a 20 year old, with access to online communities that urge HRT consumption. Can't imagine destroying my family because of a fetish, just to become an incinsere, self admited fake woman,
>>8642756
I can't be a tranny. I was happy as a man as a young kid, as a teenager
You're right then, that's one of it's most crucial aspects.
And yet you want to.
I know because im you.
>>8642762
thanks for the correct assesment caraposter xD