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ITT: We make a case for the most innovative production vehicles of their time.
There are some obvious picks that I'm certain will be mentioned later on, by me if not by others, but I'd like to start with a car that isn't really in the memory of the average motoring mind, not lastly because it came from Czechoslovakia, a country that's never really been on anyone's automotive radar. Even European car nuts will only think of trial trucks when they hear the name Tatra. However the Tatra 77 from 1934 and its 87 followup from 1938 have brought a number of things to the table which were either completely new or never seen combined in a car before.
The most obvious feature is its revolutionary drag coefficient which most cars failed to match afterwards for the better part of a century, in fact after parallel development it followed the Chrysler Airflow by two months as the world's second ever car designed in a wind tunnel, in this case using the Zeppelin facilities and engineering knowledge. Furthermore its designer Hans Ledwinka built it on a highly advanced backbone chassis with swing axles and complete independent suspension, a concept he himself developed for Tatra trucks in 1923 and which to my knowledge the company has stuck to until the present (other cars with such a backbone construction include the Lotus Elan and Espirit, the DeLorean and the De Tomaso Mangusta). The engine is a 3.0L (3.4L in the 77a, then again 3.0L in the 87) magnesium block air cooled OHV dry sump V8 with hemi combustion chambers all the way in the rear, many other parts were also made from magnesium to save weight, and with that powerplant in that body it achieved a fuel consumption of only 12.5L/100km or as much as 19 MPG US and an astonishing top speed of 150kph / 93 mph - once again - in 1934! The 87 even managed 160kph / 100 mph four years later, which not only made it by far the fastest and most economical executive sedan at the time, but one of the fastest production cars, period.
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What about innovative cars that were hated right out of the gate?
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Tucker Torpedo, I'll spare you the wall of text, look it up on askjeeves
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>>14076297
I was going the 48
Any other delivery drivers on here? Looking forward to the week ahead?
Admit it, you can do it, but your going to be fucked over by your in store team....
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Just saw a (package) delivery driver baseball-throw a package back into his truck, almost raging.
I feel for you guys. Industry's got to be shit these days and customers are assholes.
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exactly the level of grammar i'd expect from a truck driver.
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Tescos driver here.
Not looking forward to Tuesday night and Wednesday day time. All those slots are fully booked.
I did get tipped tonight though so those fuckers better give me some money.
(I feel this thread will not take off which is an interesting one for me)
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What is the best looking Ferrari ever and why is it the 575? 2015-12-19 22:18:23 Post No.14076165
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What is the best looking Ferrari ever and why is it the 575?
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>>14076165
all ferraris are crap
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>and why is it
Why is it these threads aren't auto-ban yet?
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>>14076165
Their GT cars almost always look too restrained.
So my car got stolen thursday, pontiac g8 gt, and i still owe like 8k on it i have to pay.
I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for getting something reliable that i can drive to work but that will cost almost nothing because i'm still paying for the car i don't have anymore so i'm low on money.
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Uh have you phoned the police? Insurance? Your loaner?
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>>14076127
Yes, talked to all of them. Also called onstar people because the car has it but apparently they're worthless.
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>>14076131
Do you not have any sort of theft insurance? what the actual fuck?
What car makes a better fun daily driver /o/? Space or practicality is irrelevant for me
WRX or 350Z
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>>14075965
depends on years.
Generally the WRX. More room. Back seat. AWD.
I had both and they both are fun, but the Z is wildly impractical for anyone over 17 using it as a DD.
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>>14075973
01-03 WRX,03-06 350Z
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>>14075976
If you aren't getting the HR 350z don't waste the time. They all take to mods like shit. You basically have to turbo or SC it. But the VQ will be pretty god damn reliable. Also the 03 and early 04 had synchro problems on the 350z. Caused gears to grind.
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>first cold day of year
>car starts screaming that both my oil pressure and tires are low
>got oil serviced 500 miles ago
C-can I ignore it? My dad didn't teach me about cars
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>>14075916
Assuming you went to a dealer, just use the kind of oil the dealer uses to top it up. If you don't know what kind that is it's probably in your owners manual.
For the tires just go to a gas station and use their air compressor to check/fill them.
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>>14075916
If the oil light ever turns on, you need to IMMEDIATELY stop the engine, as damage is occurring.
Check the oil level, and if it's low, add oil
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>>14075916
Tire pressure isn't surprising as the temperature drops, but I'm curious as to why your oil pressure is dropping. Any oil spots around your car? what is the temperature and what type of oil is your car using?
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any thoughts on maserati?
years 2012+
didnt see it in sticky
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>>14075820
Great until it breaks, which will happen.
They drive amazingly though.
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I work on them, can answer your questions if you have something specific
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Which Maserati, Samir?
A piece of shit diesel 2016 Ghibli and pic related are not the same car and have nothing to do with each other.
Be specific when making shitty brand whore threads.
How is /o/ doing, do you have any plans on New Year's Eve?
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>>14075635
working
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>>14075635
make my new miata better
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>>14075640
What job, man?
Oddly, I'd actually like to have anything to do instead of just wasting that day staying at parents' house (student; nowhere to go; no temp job).
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Which one will win in the end?
The new Miata
The Fiata
Or the Yota SFR
>brzfags need not apply, no one cares about your shitmobile with engine issues and terrible build quality
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The person who buys the car they really wanted.
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Miata will easily outsell the other two combined times 5
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>>14075390
>engine issues and terrible build quality
What?
>start pointless "which is better" thread
>shit post in the process.
Guaranteed replies OP
>You can charge it FOR FREE
Absolute Madman.
Alright, i am convinced. I ak getting a tesla.
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>>14074994
He's the only executive in the automotive world that understands the kind of incentives that will be needed to change the foundation on which the entire industry sits. The big boys are content to keep internal combustion because that's what they're built on. Tesla needs EV adoption to happen if they're going to survive and Musk knows how to do it.
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>>14075030
are you excited about the home battery packs?
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What are the pros and cons of a tesla car?
Why is this the official car of white trash?
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i think you mean a beat up one that doesnt run
requirement
sagging headliner
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Because its bad ass.
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Should bicycles be licensed and registered just like motorbikes and cars?
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the other way around. motorbikes shouldnt need a plate at all. just a license to drive
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If there are dedicated paths for it, why not make them foot some of the bill?
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>>14074573
Nothing should need a plate or a license.
We just need to keep women and the elderly off the roads.
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Rate this Hachiroku.
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its allright but i dont feel the color combo
i would have to paint it
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>>14074511
Move the shitpile out of the way so we can see it
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How about this Hachiroku?
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Holy fuck I'm a retard. I let a relative of mine pressure me into buying a used 2008 Grand Prix w/ 116k miles on it for $3,200. Invested $986 in repairs so far.
I regret everything.
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thats a bad car son. what will you do
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>>14074378
what can i do? that money is gone. i'll be lucky if i'm able to resell it for $2,000 a few years down the road
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Which motor did you get?
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Which car would you choose, /o/?
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Goddamn, do you have to evoke my dick, OP. I wanted to get work done today.
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i hate both.
i would probably just get a 1M
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SLS by a significant margin. As in not even considering the flat TT.