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Alright kitty, where do I start with pic related?
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>>8699611
it autocorrected lit to kitty for some raisin
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>>8699611
You don't, Russians aren't worth reading.
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>>8699611
Start with Dostoyevski and stop at Dostoyevski.

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Post your wordcount
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Post something from what you've written so far
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looks stressful as fuck.
does anything remotely good ever come out of these?
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>>8699629

Taxes were collected despite the snow. Horren doubled over as it thickened, outlining his hood, his gloves, a rope that swung between himself and a child, her gloves, her hair. It settled across their short capes. Already Horren missed the fire that had warmed him an hour ago. Yet if he did not show up to collect the taxes, the people would say he was late, and they would refuse to pay him.

I gave up this year. Got caught up in too much stuff.

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Are there any writers that claim rape is the natural conclusion of the dehumanizing nature of sexuality?
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>>8699502
>rape is the natural
Yes.
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>>8699502
why would we know about idiots
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>>8699502
Rape = lack of access to sex + lack of patience + desperation + pinch of psychoticness + fed up + belief in inability to be caught while not having timeless morals + lack of giving a fuck (pun in tended)

>"We will press this boycott very hard," said Tammy Bruce, the president of the Los Angeles chapter. "This is not art. Mr. Ellis is a confused, sick young man with a deep hatred of women who will do anything for a fast buck. And Mr. Mehta is worse. Ellis could have gone on writing until he choked on his own vomit if Vintage had not agreed to publish this misogynistic garbage."

What did she mean by this?
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>>8699390
that she has poor reading comprehension.
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>>8699390
My soggy knee, like, literally Hilter.
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>>8699390

That Brett Easton Edgelord is a hack and that his magnum opus is a shitty postmodern appropriation of de Sade's edgelordism.

She's completely right you know.

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Post some quotes, paragraphs, sentences you like.

>He never looked at ticket sellers or ticket takers. Someone handed him a ticket, he handed it back to someone else. This stayed the same, almost everything stayed the same. But now days seemed to end an hour after they started. It was always the end of the day. The days had no names and this should not have mattered. But there was something unsettling in the anonymous week, not a sense of elemental time but of time emptied out. He walked up the stairs, near midnight, and it was here and now, night after night, that he became intensely conscious of the moment, approaching the third floor, slowing his pace, wary of rousing the neighbour’s rat-faced barking dog. Another end of another day. The previous day had just ended, it seemed, at this precise place on the stairway, with the same cautious footstep, and he could see himself clearly, then and now, in mid-step.
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>posting 1/3 of one part of the triptych
Btw Hieronymous Bosch is the most /lit/ name there is, even more so than Gregory berrycone
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>>8700154
Lol its jim shaw not bosch. And as far as I know it's a single canvas rather than a triptych
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>>8699252

>...no relation of a dream can convey the dream-sensation, that commingling of absurdity, surprise, and bewilderment in a tremor of struggling revolt, that notion of being captured by the incredible which is of the very essence of dreams.

[--]

>It is impossible to convey the life-sensation of any epoch of one's existence - that which makes its truth, its meaning - its subtle and penetrating essence. It is impossible. We live, as we dream - alone.

Joseph Conrad, Heart Of Darkness..

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>Correctly identifies the cause of all our various social ills, SJW's and BLM's while at the same time being an inspired history of ethical theory.
Best philosophy of the past 50 years?
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Doesn't it kind of suck devoting so much of your energy being offended by offended people? Isn't that just exhausting? Do you really find that to be a fulfilling use of your time?
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>>8699212
Doesn't it suck being illiterate? Anyway, After Virtue actually has nothing to do with SJW's and BLM, but MacIntyre's great.
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>>8699262

>MacIntyre's great

astute analysis, I see that reading has clearly taught you a great deal

>"Many people have written to me asking what they should read to properly educate themselves. Here is a list of thirteen books that I found particularly influential in my intellectual development. I wrote number thirteen, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. It was published in 1999. It was heavily influenced by the authors of all the books listed below."

> "In the lecture I included with this post (see below) I discuss the suffering inextricably associated with life, attributing some of it to tragedy, a necessary consequence of human limitation, and the remainder to evil, the conscious and malevolent attempt to worsen Being. I suggest that human beings can tolerate tragedy — even triumph over it, if they are guided by truth — but that evil is a far more insidious, subtle and damaging force. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLp7vWB0TeY


The list

1. Brave New World – Aldous Huxley
2. 1984 – George Orwell
3. Road To Wigan Pier – George Orwell
4. Crime And Punishment – Fyodor Dostoevsky
5. Demons – Fyodor Dostoevsky
6. Beyond Good And Evil – Friedrich Nietzsche
7. Ordinary Men – Christopher Browning
8. The Painted Bird – Jerzy Kosinski
9. The Rape of Nanking – Iris Chang
10. Gulag Archipelago (Vol. 1, Vol. 2, & Vol. 3) – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
11. Man’s Search for Meaning – Viktor Frankl
12. Modern Man in Search of A Soul – Carl Jung
13. Maps Of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief – Jordan B. Peterson


for you who don't know who Jordan B Peterson is

>Jordan B. Peterson (b. 1962[1]) is a tenured research and clinical PhD psychologist who currently teaches at the University of Toronto. His research interests include self-deception, mythology, religion, narrative, neuroscience, personality, deception, creativity, intelligence, and motivation.

CONT.
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Is he /ourguy/?
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Why he is relevant these days ?

Because he's at the forefront of the battle against the SJW's and neo marxist liberals.

>On 27 September 2016, Peterson released the first part of a three part lecture video series on political correctness. In the video, he objects to the Canadian government's Bill C-16, which proposes to outlaw harassment and discrimination based on gender identity and gender expression under the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code.[20] His objection to the bill did not concern the LGBT discrimination legal debate, but rather the freedom of speech implications of C-16's other amendments to the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code, regarding their accommodation language. Furthermore, he argued that the new amendments paired with section 46.3 of the Ontario Human Rights Code would make it possible for "employers and organizations to be subject to punishment under the code if any employee or associate says anything that can be construed as 'directly or indirectly' offensive." Peterson further argues that it is necessary for people to recognize the importance of free speech and particularly free speech on college campuses.[21]
Peterson has publicly stated that he will not use non-binary pronouns such as 'Zhe' in reference to others, even if requested.[22]


Leftists attack people and try to shut him up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4R0bWC41g4


some more videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kasiov0ytEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dshxbbPlg

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>>8699110
yes he is .

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http://jordanbpeterson.com/2016/11/maps-of-meaning-intro

I just wanted to share this reading list. Peterson think it is highly relevant and recommend Millennials read this. And i am also wondering what you guys might think of it.

Copied from the link

>In 1999 Routledge published my book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. It was the results of more than fifteen years of work — thousands of hours of obsessive thinking and writing. It was my attempt to deal with the aftermath of Nietzsche’s pronouncement of the Death Of God in his revelatory book, Thus Spake Zarathustra:

>Here are the Russian books I would profoundly recommend, as accompanying readings, as well as a list of books I regard as of the first order of importance:

>Dostoevsky

Crime and Punishment
The Brothers Karamazov
Notes from Underground
The Devils
The Idiot

>Tolstoy

Confessions
The Kingdom of God is Within You

>Bulgakov

The Master and Margarita

>Solzhenitsyn

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch
The Gulag Archipelago
The First Circle
Cancer Ward
Other books of critical importance:

>Carl Jung

The Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious
Aion
symbols of Transformation
Answer to Job
Erich Neumann
The Origins and History of Consciousness
The Great Mother

>George Orwell

1984
The Road to Wigan Pier
Animal Farm
Down and Out in Paris and London
Homage to Catalonia

>Aldous Huxley

Brave New World
The Doors of Perception

>Other Works

The Discovery of the Unconscious (Henri Ellenberger)
The Neuropsychology of Anxiety (Jeffrey Gray)
Affective Neuroscience (Jaak Panksepp)
The Emotional Brain (Joseph LeDoux)
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Is Peterson the great modern intellectual? I certainly like him.
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>Lemme just add all this Jung mysticism and then just rec pop psych books that shit on freud for not being scientific enough.

Literally the most fedora list I have seen in memory desu.
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>>8699101
He really is.

>>8699111
>The Neuropsychology of Anxiety (Jeffrey Gray)
>pseudo psych pop
hahah

Seriously though, if that is how you view jung then you are in for a pleasant surprise if you watch his lectures on Jung.

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Is there a philosopher/writer you wish was right, but is actually wrong?
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>>8698683
I'm not sure you understand either term.
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>>8698683
Plato, so much that I at one point even convinced myself that I could convince myself that he was right by just consistently acting as if it were so. Unfortunately, the world around me didn't play along.
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>>8698683
All of them

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Psychoanalysis thread. Discuss books, authors, questions, criticism, etc.
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>>8698460
psychoanalysis is sheeet. analytical psych for the win
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>>8698463
If you don't like it, just hide the thread.
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>>8698460
Please continue. I've read a little of the psychoanalytic stuff and I find it fascinating, but none of the analytical psych. Tell me more.

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What is the point of this book?
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>>8697874
It's about a Jew beating up a matador.
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>>8697874
The minimalistic writing stye may of caused things to go over your head

It literally has heaps of themes and meanings. The biggest being the lost generation aspect. Others include lady Ashley and her antics, Women, marriage, love etc.
Drinking
Disenfranchisement
Some people even argue cruelty to animals

His writing style makes you do the thinking instead of laying it al out on the paper
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>>8697874
life sucks when you can't get it up.

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this is the greatest living writer. prove me wrong.

protip: you can't
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>>8697837
my diary desu says otherwise
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>fat manlet
no can do
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>>8697837
In my country he is nothing

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How am I supposed to enjoy literature from a time so different than ours?

Even liking this painting or reading romantic poetry feels like I'm lying to myself about the world I live in. Someone from the 1800s resonate with the greeks far more than any of use could ever resonate with Keats.
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i feel the opposite, i rarely read any contemporary literature. good art is always timeless anyway.
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>>8697799
>lemme just ignore all the unstoppable problems currently facing the world like nothing else before and read this prutty poetry about nymphs and shit.
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>>8697799
>good art is always timeless anyway.

lol

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Whats the most pretentious verb in the english language
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to be
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fug XDDDD
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>>8697573
had had

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Post a page of your diary (desu)
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"shy, bi, and ready to cry"
-my diary
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Why was her family facing me?

Gathered together in that shiny photo on the coffee table next to me, looking at me. Why did she want me to know she had a family? Why did she want me to know she was once beautiful (her body was now faded, wrinkled, and fat). Maybe she wanted her room to feel happy and hopeful, but it felt like bragging to me.

She asked me things that I'd never dared to discuss before. Not with my family, not with anyone. She asked as though she were asking if I had any allergies, or how often I exercise.

Did I self harm. No, but I really want to. I pushed the knife against my thigh but the skin didn't break. (This is no longer true. There are 2 white cuts on my shoulder.)

Do you wish you were dead. I guess not. I mean, it's going to happen anyway so I'm not sure my opinion on it matters.

Do you take drugs. Not really, but I sometimes take hydrocodone. Not to get high but to feel calm. I never feel calm, ever. Except sometimes when I'm reading or writing.

When I said those things, she made me feel like she related to me. I wondered how they taught her to do that.

She diagnosed me with Bipolar 2 and prescribed me some mood stabilizers. After a few weeks, she would also put me on antidepressants. She couldn't put me on them yet because they might trigger a manic episode.

This will keep you more in the middle, she said. Less lows, less highs.

Less highs.

What do I live for, if not the highs?

Maybe if the drug makes me more normal so I can get the highs naturally. Maybe I'll make some more friends, or a girlfriend.

Most people struggle to stay friends with someone who is hilarious one day, and an empty shell the next (and stays that way most days).

Maybe this drug will help. Or maybe it will just make me boring. Only time will tell.

It would take about two weeks to kick in. “Can you wait that long?” she asked. I have been this way as long as I can remember. 2 weeks can't hurt me.

What can hurt me is 10 more years of this. I don't think I could last that long. I hope this medication works.

>r8 my prose
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Smh read another posts from some stupid drumpf alt-righter, proceeded to post quality content on #frogtwitter channeling my anger to make quality posts behind multiple layers of irony. That'll show you, you stupid bigots! I AM a counter revolutionary, I AM the face of counter culture in 2016!

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