>Correctly identifies the cause of all our various social

Doesn't it kind of suck devoting so much of your energy being offended by offended people? Isn't that just exhausting? Do you really find that to be a fulfilling use of your time?

>>8699212
Doesn't it suck being illiterate? Anyway, After Virtue actually has nothing to do with SJW's and BLM, but MacIntyre's great.

>>8699262

>MacIntyre's great

astute analysis, I see that reading has clearly taught you a great deal

>>8699262
>Doesn't it suck being illiterate?
10/10 quality comeback

Reading this book was like watching a monster movie where MacIntyre is the monster. He rips so many people to shreds so quickly. There were times I would turn the page to a new chapter, see who he was going to destroy in the title and scream internally because I couldn't handle all my dreams being destroyed.

That part were he calls Kamehameha the Great basically Nietzsche made me lose it so bad. Made my day.

>>8701179
That's how I felt reading it too. Probably one of the most entertaining philosophical works I've ever read. Only Nietzsche can compete with that. It also radically altered my life, which is more than I can say of most books I've read.

And somehow the resurgance of facism and and nazism isn't a societal ill as well?

At least have the decency to admit you're a fascist you fucking coward.

>>8701412

>fascism

is this the biggest meme in political philosophy?

>>8699262
It does, as both of those are parts of the larger progressive liberal ideology.
When he mentions emotivism, they are perfect examples and by now they are legislators in many countries.
He doesn't focus on them of course, but, his philosophy certainly helps when discussing or thinking about those movements as a social phenomena.
>>8701251
How so? You became an Aristotelian?
>>8699198
After Virtue isn't even his crowning achievement. Whose Justice Which Rationally is far better and far more concentrated and explains his ideas in more details with a magnificent historical dialectic showing why liberalism is bound to create a self contradiction, why it can work only if there is an already existing larger social concensus based on a particular morality which is theoretically not actually in accordance with liberalism, why Aquinas was the most based moral philosopher and why humans cannot think of morals outside of narratives.
But, I often mix his two works up as they are actually a tetraology.

Emotivism IS our dominant morality and it is completely untenable.

Contrast Macintyre with Schmitt's critique of parliamentary democracy.

>>8701985
I contrasted him with The Conservative Mind by Kirk as a negative contrast on why liberalism in all its forms, conservative or progressive, is crap.

>>8701412
Read Land, nigga.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/the-f-word/

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>mfw the political hipsters on /lit/ are dropping esoteric traditionalism and moving on to communitarianism of all things

Get me off of this ride

>>8702246
MacIntyre is the logical progression of lit Catholic thought

>>8702194
Land's slippery. I feel these things get to him more than he lets on

MacIntyre has moved wildly from position to position for his entire career. He was a socialist, he backed Thatcher, in the 21st century, he jumped on the trendy John Gray post-Foucault "humanism sucks" meme. When reading any political philosopher one has to ask the question: "what would this writer's ideal picture of society look like?" In the same way that Foucault's proposition that power corrupts all discourse leads logically to nihilism, MacIntyre's whole "morality is a spook" bullshit is fundamentally reactionary. There are some great critiques of liberalism and MacIntyre does a good job of picking apart its internal contradictions but as to proposing something else, a solution, maybe? Nope. It's not a coincidence that people who like Nietzsche and Foucault like MacIntyre. Do-nothing postmodernism cynicism will engender the rise of a new fascism of some kind.

>>8702495
Humanism sucks was something very much present in After Virtue. He converted to Catholicism and delved deeper into it as a Thomist as time went on.
He's certainly not a postmodernist, he is completely in line with Aquinas.
His criticism of liberalism isn't that of a postmodernist, it is that of a Catholic.
He doesn't argue that morality is a spook in anything after 1981, or at least that a moral order as such is a spook.
His essays published in Tasks of Philosophy provide a great insight into the progression of his thoughts, how the epistemological crisis lead him to religious belief which in his mind firmly sets what is rational, just, true.
His latest book, God, Philosophy, Universities is very showing of his growing faith and argues throughout his post After Virtue work that the ancient and medieval traditions are in fact a harmony wrecked by liberalism.

In any case, what have you read by him?

>>8702246
>MacIntyre
>Communitarian
He avidly denies being one.

> MacIntyre's whole "morality is a spook" bullshit is fundamentally reactionary.
>Do-nothing postmodernism cynicism
What the fuck am I reading? How can someone who knows so much about his life know literally nothing about his ideas?

>>8702555
Wouldn't his social position be a distributionist in line with the church, Chesterton and Belloc?

>>8702495
>but as to proposing something else, a solution, maybe
It's almost like his single most famous book and the three others that followed it never existed. It's almost like that isn't the point of his entire mature career. Seriously what the fuck do you think virtue ethics is?

>>8702555
>He avidly denies being one.
There is literally not reason not to lump him in the same paradigm with Charles Taylor. I think there's a bit of "not-muh-special version of" communitarianism in this story.