In the Iliad, the gods often talk of the fate of Troy being fixed and not changeable. So with this knowledge, why do they frequently contradict themselves by trying to change the outcomes of events during the Trojan war?
Also, why does Dionysus appear to be the only God that doesn't interfere?
>>8984818
They have to try to change it in order to not change it.
>>8984834
^this
Maybe you should try to actually UNDERSTAND what you are reading before shitposting about it.
It is how it will be changed. The fate of Ilios was fixed by Zeus alone, all the other gods could fight against it, but in the end Zeus' word decides all. The other gods interfering is just formality. Some gods attack because they were offended or not honored correctly, others interfere to protect their children (Aeneas and Aphtodite), some are just doing their job. Zeus for example wanted the gods to interfere at certain points of the story to prolong the war even further and to try to draw Achilles out from his ship.
If you didn't understand that, you are a pleb.
What was your interpretation of the ending to Blood Meridian
tss Judge Holden what are you holdin why dont you put it down or somethin tss
I think the Judge was an analogy for the nature of man. I'm not gonna say 'war' because that's just too cliche and I don't think McCarthy would want his story to come off as cliche. But he's the embodiment of the violent nature of man and their desire to fuck shit up. Through all the death that happens around the kid, the absolute is that the Judge is always there, much like the nature of man (which is the reason why they are all down in Mexico in the first place, to fuck shit up). In the end, they are all consumed by their violence and the Judge lives through it all, pirouetting, because he's embraced the chaos - or more likely has become the embodiment of it. Basically he's like the grim reaper
Judge Holden fucked the Kid's tight lil boipocci
>watching booktuber
>"hey guys I got this awesome graphic novel the other day, have a look!"
>she pulls out saga
Every. Single. Fucking. Time.
>>8984682
>post meme lizard from facebook
>uses youtube
>watch youtubers
your life was a mistake
>>8984694
All life was a mistake anon
>>8984709
>All life was a mistake anon
It's All life is a mistake anon.
RETARD ALERT BEEP BEEP BEEP RETARD ALERT
>It's a Perrin chapter
what book
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>it's a WoT book
>>8984683
Almost any of them after Faile gets kidnapped the first time. I swear to god Wheel of time is just all the other characters doing shit while Perrin runs around in his gay wolf dreams and being upset because
>muh wife
I suppose Evan Boland might be thrown in there just to place the feminists, but she really can't be said to be in same league as those others. Which is your favorite and why? Bonus points if you can repeat your favorite poem from one of those without having to look it up. I had a professor during one "advanced college" thing that required the class to literally memorize about 70 diff poems from the Norton.
Since everyone else was busy drinking and screwing and I was in library memorizing, I ended up throwing off grade curve for entire class and I was not very popular....
Also, I got to meet Seamus Heaney that same summer..
geoffrey hill
i have a couple yeats poems memorized. and many snatches of eliot.
>>8984597
I see Hill mentioned all the time. Every time I've read him I was unimpressed.
Which collection is the best, lad?
>>8984584
i guess i'll say wallace stevens since i read him for thesis. i only completely memorized two shorter poems. cool that you met seamus heaney. not everyone is a chad, don't be so hard on your fellow student to flatter yourself
>fave women poets
>doesn't choose bishop
Does anyone know any of the actual answer to the mysteries presented within this series? Theories? What did the VFD do? What's the sugar bowl? What caused the schism?
You'll never know ;)
Wait...they made BOOKS out of the Edward Gorey poster to try to make more money? Are these Edward Gorey? They waited until he died and then his family decided to try to cash in?
When I was a UG, the Edward Gorey Poster and one of the books were the best-selling items at the harvard coop. Why did they have to commercialize and ruin this? I'm enraged eight now...
>>8984576
>SNICKET, WHAT THE FUCKING CAUSED THE SCHISM?!?!?!?!?!
Biggest question of my late childhood, desu.
Can one be materialistic without being nihilistic?
>>8984562
Sure, a lot of Christians, Muslims, and, especially, Jews are materialistic.
>>8984562
Probably, but who gives a fuck, Idealism a best.
>Sure, a lot of Christians, Muslims, and, especially, Jews are materialistic.
>>8984569
>materialism
>[muh-teer-ee-uh-liz-uhm]
>thephilosophicaltheorythatregardsmatteranditsmotionsasconstitutingtheuniverse,andallphenomena,includingthoseofmind,asduetomaterialagencies.
If you believe that everything can explained and expressed physically and naturally how can you believe in a non-physical supernatural being?
is this any good?
I find myself thinking about life after death all the time.
>>8984535
only if you get this version
It's a good read. Pretty. I'm sure there are differences depending on the version. The main point is to draw connections between the states of death, sleeping, and meditation. It's pretty interesting, worth your time for the length and appreciation you will probably get.
>>8984535
I would read this after smoking a bowl in complete solitude, candles and incense lit while in an Alan Watts/Terence McKenna filled binge period of my life.
Incredibly interesting to bridge the gaps of eastern and western religious beliefs, but it will totally fuck you up. Something about it seems academic unlike other religious texts, like it felt like it was so deep that I believed it more for some odd reason.
Very interesting. I read a version which connected Jung's psychoanalytic theories, and it was fucked up. Try to find at least his bits of it. Really interesting.
So I took time out of my life to read the fault in our stars and you know whatIt was as shitty as I imagined it would be [Spoiler]
>>8984530
what was the most delicious of the shittiness?
Do explain
>>8984530
It's not even that bad. I enjoyed the story once I got passed the whole "this is for teenage girls" thing
Not even memeing
Is he the greatest living American author?
yeap
>>8984521
CORNCOB TORTILLAS YECARTHY
>>8984521
nope
I am reading this book right now, do we like it or should I drop it?
dubs and you drop it
>>8984445
>I need a conglomerate of people to decide and validate my opinion.
>>8984445
drop it
i read it i can guarantee you that its shit and it's literally impossible to like shadow
Not just for whats inside the book just love the medium as a whole. That feeling of awe as I step into a book store or a library hasnt gone away. I know most of it is probably trashy romance novel( ive read a few not as bad as i thought pretty fun mindless entertainment) and YA novels(some are alright maybe not a majority), but man its just pure joy to pick up something random and read even when its not good but especially when it is. Is this going to fade away or will it persist
t. Freshman in college
>>8984381
What, do you jerk off in the library or something?
>>8984386
You dont?
I've thought of making this thread before too. Yes, I love books and its no exaggeration to say that they're literally the light of my life. No other passing hobbies, interests, or fads, save perhaps music have come close at all. I admit that many many books are trite, even in the classics, but like you said the satisfaction at being surprised by a good one is immense. And this here applies to just fiction, I have a different kind of love for nonfiction that teaches you more in one volume that perhaps you needed to know for life
And I love it sexually too of course, wouldn't want to discriminate
Is the fact that most male literature is written out of attempting to appease to women and to expound on the element of humanity's "feminine mystique", the reason why there are no legitimately great gay male authors?
Note that calling Wilde and BEE great outs you as a pseud almost immediately.
>>8984341
*male authored
>>8984341
I'd say that the reason there are fewer good gay male authors is probably the same as why there are fewer good female authors
There are a bunch of legitimately great gay male authors.
Your point isn't smart or interesting
Why the hell is Sherlock Holmes so popular?
And on that note, why does every adaptation miss the point so hard? Its all about Holmes and Watson, and how they change eachother. Why does everyone choose to focus on the crimes, rather than the obvious character study? It's like detective stories for toddlers. It's good every once in a while, but mostly, it's pretty shit
>>8984338
>Its all about Holmes and Watson, and how they change eachother.
Watch Dr.House for that shit, they pretty much nailed it.
>>8984356
Yeah, House is the best adaption of Sherlock Holmes.
Favorite story? The Speckled Band has a place in my heart despite it being kind of a normie answer
Is it possible to live off translating books?
>>8984304
I imagine you would still need water and food.
My brother translates all kinds of texts between English and Japanese for a living. He gets by, but it's not super lucrative.