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But why did you enjoy it anon?

>>8981487
Recently i finished it, my favourite Kafka book. I really couldn't stand some characters from the Castle, and overall, even with the kafkaesque tone the book is quite complete.

There is a man who maintains that Kafka rewrote Crime and Punishmen into The Trial. I created a thread asking this, but was ignored.

>>8981522
These questions are ignored because they actually require reading books

>>8981482

Pretty sweet ideas and often engaging plots. I think as far as being an "ideas guy" he is one of the all time greats. It's pretty amazing that he was writing stuff like "Ubik" in the early 60's when sci-fi was largely thought of as a hokey "dude aliens lmao" genre.

His prose itself sometimes does leave things to be desired. His characters are often cardboard cutouts because Dick is more interested in putting these archetypes into interesting situations than giving them a true pathos or depth. There is also a bit of wish fulfillment in his stuff (the hero often meets a super-hot intelligent 17yo girl who pays all his bills) which can be kind of off-putting for me personally.

>>8981551
Nearly all of that could also be said of WIlliam Gibson, who I think of as what Dick would sound like if he had not been clinically insane.

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>>8981482
i tried to reread a scanner darkly but couldnt get past the hippie slang and the constant descriptions of breasts. he should have laid off the drugs a bit.

Good question. I suppose it depends from person to person.

IMO: if you're going to learn two languages at once, make them very different. I personally would like to keep French and Italian apart for their Latin roots. Maybe French and Chinese or Russian.

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>>8981468
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>>8981480
Now you can never wear that shirt without thinking you're a hipster genre-fiction cunt

What book was it?

>>8981797
crime and punishment
i read some stuff about the book and these people could absorb the book much better than me, so i'm guessing i'm doing something wrong (reading? not meditating about the book after reading? i dunno)

Immediately start reading a new book. Gotta read fast

>>8981349
Then I'll go first

Title: To The Amateur Guitarist

Two birds were speaking colloquially
Saying squall-words in tweeting tones
Positing oraculars upon the sparrow bone

Too much in love with the silvered windowpane
The girl against the self in glassy splendor
Wondered about bird-speech and twittering

Felt herself to be on the cusp of a rhythmic thing
That was the sound-mask of bird tones
Hiding, as they were, the first song of the season

Could you have been a bird-brain? Too late
To smell the first forms of weather
On your breath, and flute it into tune

Too late to wish yourself to be a feathered thing
Hanging like a globular plum from the skies
Too late to be the minstrel of your tune

And the jealous girl took the song to heart
And she became all tail, and shadowed the songstress
Pulling herself at the back of nature’s bend

To push yourself forward again, my girl
Wishing you were birdsong, you wished the world
Could have been dimmer, to your loom

To the guitars of these peckish fingers
Hungrily pulling worms from the brown frets
Wishing for their charmed spells

And, in unknowing so, you have made
Yourself as a goddess of the season
And you shall rise now: the highest lark in the clear

I am being compressed in this room. Hundreds of voices echo into my ears after bouncing off of the blank canvas these walls are, only to create a color in my mind. Windows place a beam of sunlight upon my face, highlighting the dust that is likely a formation of everyone’s dead skin.
I would not doubt that everybody in this room is dying.
Situated upon Rufter’s Avenue, Locken’s Memorial Hospital is a grey palace for the ill. The town’s lively culture never seems to break into this hospital, but hundreds of patients surely do every single day. The front desk will be faced with an array of “customers”: A broken arm? Check. An overdose? We’ve got that too.
But hope?
Four confetti-poppers strike fly my way, and, walking past the balloons, I am welcomed to an assorted bunch of children who couldn’t care less about where they are.
Mrs. Fort came wobbling around the corner with a tray of cupcake, and the kids rose at once.
“You can only have one. This ones--”
She paused to take largest cupcake out of the plastic basket and with a large inhale approached me. “For the birthday man!”
I am thirty-two years pass having birthdays.


>>8981360
I actually like this. Really well done. Only thing I see is there's clumsy rhythm after fourth stanza.

>>8981385

I see what you're trying to do but for me the narrative voice is really stilted and awkward

>Hundreds of voices echo into my ears after bouncing off of the blank canvas these walls are

try reading that line out loud to see what I mean

What was the point of this anyway beyond >life's a bitch, better go full #yoloswaghedonism

>>8981276
>>8981292
I feel bad for you for reading this in english
so much of the book can't be translated

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>>8981276
Yes.

>>8981429
How can it not be translated? Any examples?

>>8981275
Let's face it, women can't suffer. Their simply inferior

>>8981297
Sounds superior to me

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>>8981275

Pynchon is shit and you're shit for liking him.

>>8981278
retard

>>8981271
I read Gravity's Rainbow because /lit/ unironically loved it back in 2014.
I'm still trying to catch up to late Pynchon, currently reading Mason and Dixon. If you tried to meme Against the Day, Vineland and Inherent Vice as hard as Gravity's Rainbow, Bleeding Edge (post-Pynchon?) and to a lesser extent Mason and Dixon were memed, then maybe you'd have more people to discuss them with.

Mandarin can help with Japanese, but Chinese Literature went down the drain thanks to stupid political shit and now everything is shitty social satire. You'll probably have more luck finding good contemporary stuff in Japanese - and there's also the entire Meiji era lit like Kyoka Izumi and Origuchi Shinobu.

>>8981257
inb4 2 thousand years of chinese poetry that are impossible to translate as they all rely on nigh-incomprehensible idiom, and that's assuming there isn't a dialect

>>8981302
Why read translation when u can learn the language and read it first hand.

I would maybe admire this, and I do as an examplel of someone really embracing a way of life, but lets be srs, part of my existential crisis is that this sort of thing is so redundant.

Books don't make you smarter. They are a dying art form used mainly for social signalling.

Being a soldier is meaningless because of nukes. Obvioiusly mattis has huge influence but other than that being a soldier is just a lower form of an investment banking analyst / mckinsey / law school optionality cycle that is praised in our society.

>>8981303
>Being a soldier is meaningless because of nukes
Dafuq dis guy smokin XDDD

Having thousands of books and having read thousands of books are two different things. And how polished would one get by reading thousands of books on tanks, guns, fashion, ways of shouting, etc.

You're spooking me.

>>8981136
Fuck off with the memes man, seriously I want to know how & why this guy made Engels & Marx collective jimmies rustle so much

he's babby's first existential nihilist

>dude laws and principles aren't real dude

Wanna know how he's shit? Imagine a nation filled with stirnerists. they get invaded by a nation full of Christians or Muslims. The stirnerists are call military training and hierarchy a spook, masturbating behind a tree during drills, running away during combat because they want to, and end up getting slaughtered and conquered by real principled men.

His only redeeming quality is that he's technically got proto-pragmatist qualities, but all of his philosophies fall apart once you begin understanding basic cultural psychology.

Not to mention that every single stirnermemer is a fedora-tier retard.

>>8981077
read more read more read more read more

>>8981077
read more and work on making a sound point without resorting to adding useless big words to make up 4 lack of knowledge.

>>8981077
good tattoo
1/10

>not getting boners from cartoon girls

are you gay?

>>8981062
Manga isn't genre, you nugget.

Movies aren't a genre, comic books aren't a genre.

>>8981074
In a sense all those things are genres insofar as they have features that are generic to them and are categories within the very broad spectrum of culture and entertainment

>>8981034
>still lives with his mother.

>>8981054
nice projecting

i bet your father rarely talks to you

>>8981065
Yeah, well he died 10 years ago, so I'd hope not.

>>8981005
Pic related is okay. I read it in school. Probably one of the better books we read.

>>8981014
Yeah I read it as a teen too. Enjoyed it but unsure if it's one of those "this is the best book ever because I'm 16" type deals.

>>8981005
Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger is a great memoir of WWI