Archived threads in /lit/ - Literature - 2057. page

>>8988462
First, you read page one. Then, you read page two

>>8988465
And then spend the next month reading it every single day? Ok bud

>>8988475
Don't you read every day anyway?

"How to Recover From Terminal Autism"

My Beautiful Dark Twisted World

>>8988454
What Lovecraft collection is that in?

>>8988446
They charged money for education rather than subsisting from voluntary donations.

Ie they were acting in their own interest over the interest of truth.

>>8988446
The sophists were expensive college education

Plato and Socrates were 4chan shitposters

The sophists were great
Literally great
Socrates and Plato were just buttmad
Protagoras said nothing wrong

>>8988422
This poster is so obtuse its uncomfortable

>>8988422
You can stop whenever you want, but you'll always find yourself back at the Greeks.

>>8988451
ur a sucker ;-)

>>8988419
pathetic buffoon*

You can bitch and moan if you're an aristocrat. Thersites was not and complained at the wrong time as well. If you wish to make a complaint you generally have to do it in an assembly when you're permitted to speak (holding the speaking stick that Odysseus beat Thersites with).

>>8988877
>(holding the speaking stick that Odysseus beat Thersites with).
Huh, if you put it like that it's really obvious

>>8988408
Don't worry they translated it into emoji for people like you.

>shake.gif
I was disappointed

>>8988408
>implying shakespeare existed

he has to exist first in order to suck

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>>8988369
Start with the Greeks

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>>8988369

http://library.nothingness.org/articles/SI/en/pub_contents/5

>>8988369
https://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Hand-Introduction-Conspiratorial-History/dp/0961413506/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484706104&sr=8-1&keywords=the+unseen+hand+an+introduction

https://www.amazon.com/Conspirators-Hierarchy-Committee-300/dp/B004Y0AVHO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484706107&sr=8-1&keywords=the+committee+of+300

https://www.amazon.com/Brotherhood-Darkness-Dr-Stanley-Monteith/dp/0981764371/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484706120&sr=8-1&keywords=brotherhood+of+darkness

https://www.amazon.com/Technocracy-Rising-Trojan-Global-Transformation/dp/0986373907/ref=pd_sim_14_9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7HXK1E8M7BJNNV2ERF1F

I thought democracy was pro-propriety?

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>>8988353
In democracy, you can vote to infringe upon the property rights (the proprietorship) of others

>>8988319
Anarcho Capitalism is for people who want to be fash but don't have the balls to admit it

>>8988236

This kind of thing is very much SOP for Fantasy: entire races of people have specific traits among all members, realms have their specific characteristics, and so on. It's a very facile and outdated way of thinking and writing (fitting for such a backward-looking genre).

It isn't talking about black humanoids, but about a black cloud.

Shit, even d&d has drows, which are black and evil.

So I dunno.

fucking SLAVERY was racist

writing a book about a BLACK fucking CLOUD isn't

>>8988163
>>8988163
>>8988163
I would also add Huckleberry Finn.

>>8988163
Anything by Toni Morrison

>>8988163
USA by Dos Passos

Can you imagine the absolute clusterfuck of handing anyone 'so /lit/, so highbrow' any kind of material power?

>>8988162

>Remember how I said there’s a certain kind of conservatism which I respect more than bourgeois liberalism—Eliot is of this type. Of course, the dichotomy he maintains is reactionary, but it’s due to a deep fatalism, not ignorance. (Counter him with Yeats or Pound, who, arising from the same milieu, opted to support Hitler and Mussolini.)

>And this fatalism is born out of the relation between fertility and death, which I touched on in my last letter—life feeds on itself. A fatalism I share with the western tradition at times. You seem surprised at Eliot’s irreconcilable ambivalence; don’t you share this ambivalence yourself, Alex?

Obama has stunning insight, and he managed more in his youth than you will in your lifetime, you sad, pathetic piece of worthless shit :^)

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>>8988191
>this fabricated letter featuring the insights of a teenage pseud will surely prove that my hero doesn't have shit taste
Don't you have a Jonathan Franzen novel to be reading, pleb? Maybe an Oprah book-of-the-month? I like my latte with extra foam

>>8988159
Eh the best I got is undergrad history papers

The Virtual-Age Art Abstract

Whereas western literature is traditionally organized within a school of thought that emphasizes continuity, the function of art as catharsis, internal coherence, and citational wisdom, as the prime modes of literary knowledge, advances in the past century and the present have moved toward entirely different directions. If the past achievements are within the realms of development as the elaboration of single, specialized topics, new art forms, including those in literature, and including those in popular entertainment forms such as advertising, and even newly implanted tendencies in common speech and daily communication tend towards a space that is not so much organized upon the lineal tendencies of our richly visual culture, but upon the tendencies of a “muscular” society that organizes all activity, thought, and wisdom and perception upon the traits of impulsivity, stimulation, contraction and 'l’esprit du moment.' That is merely to say that, where past western thought focused on mechanism and lineality, with all its corollaries—logic, sequentiality, development, etc.—the new cultural tendencies advance towards a means of organizing experience that is mostly immersed in the present, with little reference or use for past achievement as a means of wisdom. Thus disposed, “virtual space” and “cyberspace” might still intrigue most who try to study it under the visual conditions of scholarly habits. But the point is that this virtual space, being “muscular”, is more something to be felt than to be seen; it necessarily entails an emphasis on subjectivity, participation, since the whole action occurs with you.

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>>8988373

The new conditions render us rather insensitive to narrative, development. They bring the very notion of “development” to bear its significance as something that merely occurs sequentially. The man who holds long trains of thought is devalued; our age sees the intelligent man as the man of quick wit who can immediately and accurately balance a whole situation within his own self. Buck Mulligan’s remark of Dedalus’ ability to prove by algebra “that Hamlet’s grandson is Shakespeare’s grandfather and that he himself is the ghost of his own father” is a great clash of the two emerging and opposing views of intelligence as Joyce soon perceived them. The new conditions focuses of impulse, contraction, that to many is seen as a need for thrill, vitality. Such a statement on Shakespeare’s ghost is a direct parody of the tendency of academies, felt as soon as in Joyce’s time, to seek for electrifying premises, ideas, novelty,—however absurd—as opposed to the citational habits of old academicism. On the other hand, the expression “by algebra” reveals the older image of intelligence, or rationality, as the man-as-machine who can follow undisturbed and coldly long trains of thought with clinical precision. These opposing views of intelligence are the basis of the artist vs. scientist, artist vs. the bureaucrat dichotomies. But they also bear a significance in the Impulsive-criminal vs. Holmes, and the Hannibal vs. Graham, Continental vs. Analytic, etc. dichotomies.

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>>8988141
Would definitely recommend more Brautigan if you haven't already gotten on that. Calvino is also kind of like your description, but I've only read him in translation. You might also like the short stories of Borges or Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky.

>>8988141
I haven't read any Brautigan, so I don't know how similar it would be, but my absolute favourite surrealistic novel is Heartsnatcher by Boris Vian. One of the few books that I still think about regularly.

I think Alain Robbe-Grillet's Les gommes is a perfect fit.

Fuck off

>>8988104
reading this was a waste of time

>>8988111
>>8988115
The first step in becoming a good writer is handling constructive criticism and suggestions with a little class.

What I outlined in my OP, if you follow it, you will find it opens a whole new world for you.

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burroughs' cutups

>>8988062
mumbling about women and DFW

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>>8988062
Beckett