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What's that word for when you realise that you'll look back at the previous year and three quarters and realise it was completely wasted?

>finished a degree I hated
>worked retailcuck part time jobs
>barely read more than 5 books
>did maybe a month's worth of productive stuff in my free time
>went to the gym regularly and lifts went up but ate lots of junk food and had coffee enough to harm sleep at times
>main hobby is taking walks or driving and feeling sad about my life and telling myself I will work extremely hard to learn productive skills tomorrow
>wasted gigantic amounts of time on internet and 4chan browsing
>told myself every day that I'd start working hard and eating healthily tomorrow and having genuine false hope almost every time

I can't motivate myself to work hard on anything or have goals. I know other people have quarter life crises but my life is fucking zooming past, not due to a boring 9-5 job but my inability to do anything with my free time.

I am a Stirnerite that knows deep down that all advice is trivial and worthless.

I hate that there are ten trillion topics considered important and that there is always someone willing to call you a retard if you don't know it. I fully realise that it's all social signalling nonsense. Yet it still weighs on me. There's always someone willing to say you only need to work hard if you're stupid. Or you're stupid not to work hard. Or that procrastination is great- or not. Or anything.

I feel like everything is so trivial it's not worth doing or extremely frustrating and out of my reach.

I see successful people and almost all of them just got in to the right institutions and took the elevator up with tonnes of support. I go to graduate assessment days and am surrounded by normie clones who are interviewed by their normie clones. I have almost no chance. And these are interviews for "respected" jobs that usually do pointless things.
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just be yourself
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>>9019792
>main hobby is taking walks or driving and feeling sad about my life
This made me feel something.
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Would you choose the pleasure machine?
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Only if I had nothing left that I cared about knowing enough to put me off. It's kinda like being offered a great new Netflix show which you can watch if you abandon the one you're watching. If the one you're watching isn't as good but you still want to find out what happens in later episodes you probably won't abandon it for the show even though it is better. Same with life e.g. what happens to my friends, family, projects I've invested myself in etc. Projects in the real world that I desire knowledge about, which no simulation of the machine can provide.
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>>9019676
Though I should probably add that such a view does depend on a problematic causalist epistemology.
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>>9020418
>such a view does depend on a problematic causalist epistemology.

the fuck are you talking about?

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>300 word book report due tomorrow
>not even started it yet
How fucked am I /lit/?
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>Haiku due next week
>Haven't even started yet
How dead am I /lit/?
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Start tomorrow morning
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>>9019669
>300 words
Careful, don't strain yourself.

(You wrote 1/20th of that in your post.)

Does anyone here own a copy of the Talmud? Are these quotes true? Do Jews believe this?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1107676959/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=marketorder-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1107676959&linkId=a123197c2a225b3cbbec25251bc63382
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>>9019568
I've picked two of them randomly (the Libbre David ones), and apparently they're fake.
Too lazy to check on the others.
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>>9019568
>Are these quotes true?

According to my translation of the Babylonian Talmud, every selected quote from that picture is true.

>Do Jews believe this?

Yes, their religion requires them to follow the interpretations of the Rabbis.
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>>9019568
>Do Jews believe this?

They must be doing some pretty impressive mental gymnastics if they (say they) don't.

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explain book titles

the 120 days of sodom

sodom was a sinfull city in the bible. in the book, they do sinfull stuff for 120 days
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>>9019495
the bible

it is a book
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>>9019495
Harry potter

About a boy called harry
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>>9019528
>>9019532
wow. mind. blown.

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The sword is stronger than the pen. Prove me wrong.
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>>9019493
The burden of proof is on you, famalamadingdong.
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Pens = widely used despite the abundance of computers
Swords = now that guns exist they are only used on the walls of neckbears
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>>9019497
>>9019498
*Teleports behind you*

Any good Medieval/Fantasy books that are mostly comedy?
I love the sarcasm of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy so something with that humor but medieval era would be awesome.
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Don Quicksoatey my man
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>>9019458
Legitimately this: >>9019483. I'm sure there's plenty of ballads, too; try Provence.

Also we know you're trying to get us to say "The Divine Comedy".
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Terry pratchett?

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Critique required.

In the green vineyards of my heart
Where there is a facade of peaceful clime
There lie the dusty cellars of the past
Where a vintage grows bitter with time
Those fools, the wise men, what do they know
Of paradoxes, confusing and vexing?
When in the same vessel love and hate do they sow
They will find their wisdom is increasing
O my love, long have I wished for relief
An end to this torture, pain, you and me
And yet I dare not end this miserable life brief
For fear that when I forget all, I will remember thee

And though my hate grows strong, do know this
My love is my soul, my life, my curse, my bliss
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>>9019456
how about u dont selfishly start a new thread for each of your shitty prose OP, how about that

this one would land a decent grade in a high school poem class but
dont use archaic language when there is also modern language sprinkled throughout
i liked the comparison in the wine to the old men but then you jumped to typical romantic bs and you dont even repeat the wine/vineyard motif in the last half, rendering it pointless.
like i want to know as a reader why it is set at a vineyard and what is the importance to this is towards the poets feelings of love
its ok at as a very quick first draft
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>>9019473
Thank you for taking the time.
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>>9019456
Read more senpai

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1984 is many people's first 'real book'

what is lit's thoughts
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>>9019447
What a fucking horrible cover
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>>9019463
yeah but it got you in my thread
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>>9019447
1984 has been referenced a lot in the United States recently to compare parallels in trumps administration.

this is in response to your question in the header btw.

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I acquired this belief through my observations of the employability and overall contentedness of people, with their lives, that study in this field.
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bump cause I'm writing a college paper due tomorrow and don't wanna sound like a dingus
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>>9019384
Asides from commas it is grammatically correct but this is such an awkward sentence. It just reads badly. It needs to be rewritten.
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>>9019384
> The employability and happiness of people in this field gave me this belief.

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>I'm an analytical philosopher
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>I am a shitposter
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>>9019443
aren't you a little too ugly to be a shitposter
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>>9019443
> using "his" image on other boards already

Goddamn, never posting my face, ever.

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where do i start with a dude's 20 novel cycle
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>>9019344
At the beginning, Anon-san.
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Eugénie Grandet
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Germinal
The Debacle

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how accurate is this?

do you agree with it?

his official career didn’t work out. He got fed up with his fellow academics, gave up his job and moved to Switzerland and Italy where he lived modestly and often alone. He was rejected by a succession of women, causing him much grief (‘My lack of confidence is immense’). He didn’t get on with his family (‘I don’t like my mother and it’s painful even for me to hear my sister’s voice’) and in response to his isolation, grew a huge moustache and took long country walks every day. For many years, his books hardly sold at all. When he was forty-four, his mental health broke down entirely. He never recovered and died eleven years later. Nietzsche believed that the central task of philosophy was to teach us how to ‘become who we are’, in other words, how to discover and be loyal to our highest potential. To this end, he developed four helpful lines of thought: 1. Own up to envy Envy is – Nietzsche recognised – a big part of life. Yet we’re generally taught to be feel ashamed of of our envious feelings. They seem an indication of evil. So we hide them from ourselves and others, so much so that there are people who will sometimes say, with all sincerity, that they don’t envy anyone. This is logically impossible, insisted Nietzsche, especially if we live in the modern world (which he defined as any time after the French Revolution). Mass democracy and the end of the old feudal-aristocratic age had, in Nietzsche’s eyes, created a perfect breeding ground for envious feelings, because everyone was now encouraged to feel that they were equal to everyone else. In feudal times, it would never have occurred to the serf to feel envious of the prince. But now everyone compared themselves to everyone else and was exposed to a volatile mixture of ambition and inadequacy as a result.
cont
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However, there is nothing wrong with envy, maintained the philosopher. What matters is how we handle it. Greatness comes from being able to learn from our envious crises. Nietzsche thought of envy as a confused but important signal from our deeper selves about what we really want. Everything that makes us envious is a fragment of our true potential, which we disown at our peril. We should learn to study our envy forensically, keeping a diary of envious moments, and then sift through episodes to discern the shape of a future, better self. The envy we don’t own up to will otherwise end up emitting what Nietzsche called ‘sulfurous odours.’ Bitterness is envy that doesn’t understand itself. It is not that Nietzsche believed we always end up getting what we want (his own life had taught him this well enough). He simply insisted that we must become conscious of our true potential, put up a heroic fight to honour it, and only then mourn failure with solemn frankness and dignified honesty. 2. Don’t be a Christian Nietzsche had some extreme things to say about Christianity: ‘I call Christianity the one great curse, the one intrinsic depravity… In the entire New Testament, there is only person worth respecting: Pilate, the Roman governor.’ This was knockabout stuff, but his true target was more subtle and more interesting: he resented Christianity for protecting people from their envy.
Christianity had in Nietzsche’s account emerged in the late Roman Empire in the minds of timid slaves, who had lacked the stomach to get hold of what they really wanted (or admit they had failed), and so had clung to a philosophy that made a virtue of their cowardice. Christians had wished to enjoy the real ingredients of fulfilment (a position in the world, sex, intellectual mastery, creativity) but had been too inept to get them. They had therefore fashioned a hypocritical creed denouncing what they wanted but were too weak to fight for – while praising what they did not want but happened to have. So, in the Christian value system, sexlessness turned into ‘purity’, weakness became “goodness,” submission to people one hated “obedience” and, in Nietzsche’s phrase, “not-being-able-to-take-revenge” turned into “forgiveness.” Christianity amounted to a giant justification for passivity and a mechanism for draining life of its potential.
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3. Never drink alcohol
Nietzsche himself drank only water – and as a special treat, milk. And he thought we should do likewise. He wasn’t making a small, eccentric dietary point. The idea went to the heart of his philosophy, as contained in his declaration: ‘There have been two great narcotics in European civilisation: Christianity and alcohol.’
He hated alcohol for the very same reasons that he scorned Christianity: because both numb pain, and both reassure us that things are just fine as they are, sapping us of the will to change our lives for the better. A few drinks usher in a transient feeling of satisfaction that can get fatally in the way of taking the steps necessary to improve our lives. It’s not that Nietzsche admired suffering for its own sake. But he recognised the unfortunate – but crucial – truth that growth and accomplishment have irrevocably painful aspects: “What if pleasure and displeasure were so tied together that whoever wanted to have as much as possible of one must also have as much as possible of the other. You have a choice in life: either as little displeasure as possible, painlessness in brief or as much displeasure as possible as the price for an abundance of subtle pleasures and joys.” Nietzsche’s thought recalibrates the meaning of suffering. If we are finding things difficult, it is not necessarily a sign of failure, it may just be evidence of the nobility and arduousness of the tasks we’ve undertaken.
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4. “God is Dead”
Nietzsche’s dramatic assertion about the demise of God is not, as it’s often taken to be, some kind of a celebratory statement. Despite his reservations about Christianity, Nietzsche did not think that the end of belief was anything to celebrate. Religious beliefs were false, he knew; but he observed that they were in some areas very beneficial to the sound functioning of society. Giving up on religion would mean that humans would be left to find new ways of supplying themselves with guidance, consolation, ethical ideas and spiritual ambition. This would be tricky, he predicted.
Nietzsche proposed that the gap left by religion should ideally be filled with Culture (philosophy, art, music, literature): Culture should replace Scripture. However, Nietzsche was deeply suspicious of the way his own era handled culture. He believed the universities were killing the humanities, turning them into dry academic exercises, rather than using them for what they were always meant to be: guides to life. He particularly admired the way the Greeks had used tragedy in a practical, therapeutic way, as an occasion for catharsis and moral education – and wished his own age to be comparably ambitious. He accused university and museum-based culture of retreating from the life-guiding, morality-giving potential of culture, at precisely the time when the Death of God had made these aspects ever more necessary.
He called for a reformation, in which people – newly conscious of the crisis brought on by the end of faith – would fill the gaps created by the disappearance of religion with the wisdom and healing beauty of Culture.

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>book has a central female character

aaaaaaaaaand dropped
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>Author is a woman.
>Decide to give her a chance.
>Author keeps trying to shoe-horn their idealistic world views into the story.

Dropped.
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>>9019364
isn't that what almost every autor does?
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>author is a woman
>book is one of the best I've ever read

Wtf why is lit wrong

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>tfw you realize you got to live experiences in order to write about them
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>>9019302
I used to be anxious as shit about pretty much anything that was out of my comfort zone, now I kinda welcome it under the pretext that it will broaden my horizons and allow me to experience more that I can then later channel
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>>9019302
The true mark of the mediocre writer.
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>>9019305
>but my sci novel is EPIC

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