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>>9166194
>reading for plot

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>>9166206
Shut up you pretentious cunt. I read almost purely for escapism and it's quality/fidelity is attenuated if I know what is going to happen

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>>9166194
Did you get take the last one from Amazon? I went to order last night and its a 1-2 month wait.

Read it years ago, recommended it to everyone. Don't know if I would want to slog through it again, but I thought it was brilliant.

in order to truly appreciate this book you need to find it in a stairwell or some shit. Me, I love Danielewski's vision so much that I've bought hundreds of copies. I take each copy and rip the covers off, then I black out everything on the title pages, and every page number. After you have to bind the whole thing in electrical tape, or loose staples, or carpenter nails. You can't give yourself a mystery, so I give others mystery by hiding these unmarked copies throughout my city. I am doing god's work

>>9166140
Jesus finding that randomly would be weird.

If it was really the greatest it would've been translated into English

is it in russian

i can read cyrillic but is it readable by russians ?

"Better Microcosm?"

>>9166084
No, this knowledge is not for the weak-minded A*glo. It would break them, they would evaporate instantly.

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>>9166020

does A Brave New World Revisited count?

>>9165943
Lots of poets do this, Walt Whitman being an example that readily comes to mind. There are a few versions of leaves of grass.

I would imagine publishing companies might serve as an obstacle for this as well.

>>9165895
It certaintly made it worse

He was wrong about literally everything.

We could test this. Get a person with a PhD in literature and put him in a memory game match with an illiterate African, then we'll see who has the better memory.

>>9165888
After the romans, yes

Before Kierkegaard, yes.

After the DFWians, yes.

Ad.. Hi... i mean... Napoleon was a role model!

Tried books by Carnegie and they're a waste of time. In my opinion, the only people who could find them helpful are complete autistic hermits, who haven't interacted in society at all. Most of it is absolutely basic advice known by everyone over the age of 16.

>>9165921
good... very good thanks

Stephen King brought it to its natural conclusion

>>9165810
We are no longer scared by monster or even death. We now fear failure, being alone and things like that, so the real horror books talk about that and not about monsters anymore.

>>9165893

deep

sounds gay

>>9166163
are you saying book clubs are gay and only lonely single moms actually go to them?

>>9166192
nice projection faggot

What the fuck is the point of these threads? To discuss works you haven't read yet? To show off shitty used paperbacks? It has no purpose whatsoever. Even an autistic robot pasta is more /lit/ than this shit. Sage.

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>>9165797
I was kind of disappointed in Underworld. It felt like Delillo got too cute with the dialogue. Every character spoke the same.

>>9165752
>it obviously doesn't, and hasn't, governed the actions they've taken that have altered the course of history

On rereading this I realize this is pretty poorly worded, but the point I wanted to convey is that presumably those actions weren't rationalized out in peer-reviewed journals or complex treatises.

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I'm currently on the edge of a vortex of paranoia myself struggling with some of these issues.

>It just really addles my mind, seeing how much thought goes into the philosophical topics that to me seem so esoteric and removed from reality.
Reality is a motherfucker. For many, getting more remote by the hour. Basically, we're in a golden era of reality as subjective perception. Personally I think that luxury is going to come with a high price tag, the cheque for which is going to arrive fairly soon.

Reality, like subjectivity, can be conjectured an almost infinite number of different ways. This has its benefits and its downsides. The benefit is that it leads to all kinds of creativity; the downside is that it is incredibly fragile.

>just in the space of ~250 years humanity obviously hasn't undergone a Kantian moral revolution (or moral revolution whose prerogatives you could attribute to any one philosopher, for that matter).
I don't know if I can agree with this (or even what a 'moral revolution' would look like). Nietzsche's impact has been huge. So has that of Marx and Freud. Would it be so hard to claim that postmodernity itself is not a kind of moral revolution? Contemporary radical skepticism?

What about Bannon? What else is the Fourth Turning but a moral revolution?

>How do philosophers justify their self-worth alongside the current of everything else that happens outside the ivory tower?
One way is by extending the influence of the ivory tower to the edges of the known universe. Again, good for some people, less so for others.

If I wanted to be cynical, I would say that the best way to do it is to dodge the question and infinitely problematize everything (which also requires the permanent combatting of anything resembling heteronormativity). There are academics out there writing good and interesting books. But to me at least the concept of justifying anything seems to be becoming increasingly remote.

I like Peterson's idea: sort yourself out, become competent. That is enough. That is at least the advice I am giving myself these days, since otherwise imagination can run out of control. In the public sphere or in private.

>>9165837
>>just in the space of ~250 years humanity obviously hasn't undergone a Kantian moral revolution (or moral revolution whose prerogatives you could attribute to any one philosopher, for that matter).
>I don't know if I can agree with this (or even what a 'moral revolution' would look like). Nietzsche's impact has been huge. So has that of Marx and Freud. Would it be so hard to claim that postmodernity itself is not a kind of moral revolution? Contemporary radical skepticism?
>What about Bannon? What else is the Fourth Turning but a moral revolution?

That was sort of a facetious statement, because I believe that human nature is governed by evolutionary principles, so any kind of idealistic "revolution" is only fated to be co-opted at some level by our basest desires. So the argument for Marx's initial influence is there, but the revolution was not borne out in reality.

On the topic of reality, I also think it's independent of perception.

>>9165723
>The Book of Job (/ˈdʒoʊb/; Hebrew: אִיוֹב Iyov) is a book in the Ketuvim ("Writings") section of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh), and the first poetic book in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible.
Learn to use google, cretin.

>>9165731
>use google

Nice try, shill.

>>9165723
It is not poetry.

>>9165675
For literary quality? KJV or Knox.

For accuracy/academic quality? Revised Standard Version 2nd Catholic Edition (esp. the Didache Bible from Ignatius Press).

>>9165678
>>9165678
I'd also add that KJV has historic value.

RSV is pure cancer. Read NASB for accuracy.

>>9165633
Alexander Pope's 'Essay of Man.'

The Poems of Jesus Christ. It's an actual book.

>not becoming a seanchai