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>>9165864
>fucking a child through an open wound in their neck
Ok, I'm all for grimdark but that was unasked for, like fucking stretching a small piece of butter on a too large bread slice.
It's like the author went specifically for the unrealistically grim just for the shock.

>>9165900
Yeah, that's why that's the only specific thing I remember. I wasn't expecting it.

>>9165864
Sounds like an 80s - 90s book.

Dose locks

Fucker had his shit together, mysterious figure.

Read The Cloak (hope this is the right translation) and The Nose. The Cloak was excellent. Perfectly captured shame, poverty, despair, loss and regret all in a story about a fucking new coat.
The Nose was honestly underwhelming in comparison.

>>9165751
every book I read I buy 30.

>>9165751
I like to 'buy ahead' so that I always have another new book to read on my shelf, so a good number of books on my shelf haven't been read yet.

I've read all of them and finished none of them.

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>>9165701
Symbolic sensory imagery is a must.

>>9165701
Plot.

>reading for plot

>>9165613
>I want prose only
Fukkin why?

>>9165613
>As a chinaman, I'm looking into romanian literature and romanian canon.
any particular reason?

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>>9165653
Well first of all I need a better grasp at the language without having my head filled with metaphors and flowery romance hip-hop lyrics from 100 years ago.
I'm kidding, I like poetry but I really do want to have a better grasp at the flow of the language so to speak, how people read, speak and write it, but within literature.
And second of all I think there's hidden gems within the romanian canon, purely based on my limited knowledge of it. Read some folk tales and Ion Creanga, there's dope stuff there methinks.

Isn't he the guy who taught Lou Reed?

>>9165959
Yeah.

>>9167708
Seems cool. What should I read from him?

>>9165462
yikes

>>9165462
Use of poetic devices>>9165465

Nigger if you took all of poetry ever written in history, maybe 5% of it would be rhymed poetry

Any time is a good time to start reading. Just make sure you either commit fully or read as a hobby; don't try to do both, otherwise your life will lack focus. For example, study economics, or some real science, and try to excel at it. Make it your priority, and rely on it for your future. Then just try to read as much literature as you can on the side. This way you won't end up half-assing two things, rather just one.

It is never too late, and while this is also clique, it is in response to a clique question. In many ways beginning philosophical study later in life can be beneficial. It allows you to more completely devote your time to the reading, in addition to offering a more mature initial perspective. I started to read more serious philosophy at 15 and had to reread much of what I read when I was older to have a more developed understanding.

>Most people at my age have already read and understand philosophers like Kant and Hegel
This is completely false. Some people at your age read at all. A few of those read anything of literary merit. A fraction have read philosophy and truly understood it.

20 is actually a decent time to start since most people who have read much before that didn't actually read any important literary works (that they actually managed to appreciate) so you're not far behind at all. The people who read Nietzsche at 16 probably didn't gain much from it compared to when they re-read it at 20+.

Considering that our idea of Socrates is largely formed by that book, I can only hope it is loyal to his ideas.

Did the Athenians burn his own writings, though, or did he never bother to write?

I believe it is mentioned that he chose not to write

>>9165238
>>9165526
He was supposedly against writing.

>>9165031
>Do you think the depiction in this work is more faithful to the man himself, or another literary construction of Plato's?
It'll be both bro. While there are only a handful of texts that have come down to us today about Socrates' life, really only from 3 different authors, we still have a fair amount of writings about the lost texts of which there were a few more.

A more interesting level I think sort of lies over this, that it is often misinterpreted. The relationship between the court and the market is often overlooked for a pedestrian (and not particularly consistent) discussion about register/formality in the language. The daimonion too is rarely discussed in an decent way considering the concept is so important to most of the dialogues.

I would think it reasonable though to say something like most of the events were true though certain dramatic structures/beats and implied motives are being stuck in by Plato. While some people point to Aristotle saying it's fiction, it doesn't follow that Aristotle has a better understanding or vantage point just by virtue of being close to them temporally. Nor is it necessarily true that he's saying it has no relation to what really happened, like all based on a true story shit is fiction but (sometimes) happened.

>>9164887
I prefer prose to poetry so much so that I can't enjoy the latter much at all. I read Shakespeare and feel nothing.

I enjoy YA and LNs

I have a younger brother who says he is desperate to become an author. Part of me respects him because he must have some determination behind him: he's only 19 and he's already written short stories, poems and I believe a full-length novel too. I try to help him out by reading his work and recommending books to him that might help him develop as well as appeal to him. However...

> his work is full of typos, over-use of hyphens, semi-colons and grammatical errors (sometimes he connects independent clauses together with a string of hyphens because he says he likes long sentences that will make his book bigger)
> He always asks for long novels because "I want them to look nice on my shelf" and he admits he's never likely to read them. I get him short works like The Trial or The Double but even then he doesn't want to read anything too often
> he sees any piece of constructive feedback as a criticism of his personal worth ("You wouldn't say that if you didn't think I was shitty, why would you tell me that???!" etc). He's even criticised and whined about his teachers being mean because they give him feedback notes when he gets a paper marked.
> He e-mailed local agents nagging them to sign him up and they all ignored him, then he wonders why nobody returns his emails.
> he submitted a short story entry to a competition last year and he says "i'm still waiting for my prize" even though he clearly didn't win.
> He says he wants to write an epic, long fantasy series full with illustrations, maps and made-up languages but spends 10 minutes making his characters.
> He says he's the best writer of his age and that when the publisher prints a photo of him on the sleeve of his book he wants to wear a Zorro mask so nobody knows who he is.
> His work is full of cliches such as "white as snow" and "dark as night"
> after he's read a book he bins it saying "why do I need to read it again, I know what the twist is"

Is this just an age thing? Will he grow out of this, /lit/?

E.T.A. Hoffmann, A.J. Liebling, Fred Exley, Peter Sloterdijk, Lord Acton, Roberto Calasso.. to genre-skip, time-travel, and name a few. But enough are, so it's okay..

DFW.

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My diary desu

Dudes my favorite. I was in Chicago for one of his book releases and found myself at a party with him and Boyd Rice.
He's a total libertine.

good luck getting a clear answer. He's obsessed with pedophilia and crimes against women & children to a seriously autistic degree, but I don't think the entire purpose is to shock people. To some extent there's a critique of the media going on for parading the parents of dead children around on talk shows and providing jerk-off material for sadists, as well as a redefinition of what makes material "pornography". That's mixed with semi(?)-autobiographical accounts of his exploits with prostitutes and gays. I've only read a little bit of his work and to be honest it's too disgusting for me to persevere through. I'd be interested in hearing from someone who is a dedicated read of his. Everytime a thread about Sotos comes up here, there's someone yelling "you just don't get it!" without explaining what "it" is.

>>9165185
>Everytime a thread about Sotos comes up here, there's someone yelling "you just don't get it!" without explaining what "it" is.
There is no "it." Lots of noise bros like to parade their expensive Sotos books around like a badge but at heart they're just leftist liberals who believe in 'free speech' or whatever. Sotos himself admits a bunch of times that he writes books to make money to buy more child pornography.

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The discovery of Gravity?

dunno

Well, for women, a books length is indicative of its difficulty because women read so slowly that any decently long book would be a monumental task in their mind. Also, women are simply incapable of grasping concepts like prose, philosophy, etc, so they don't really care how complex a book is, since all they identify with are the characters and relationships in the book.

>>9177860
Nice bait man. Shame no one is biting.

>>9177882
>being this new

>>9177268
They're a bunch of disillusioned ex trump supporters

they retweet the stuff they agree with and ignore the stuff they don't. there's also probably a lot they simply don't understand.

Because the DE is intellectual masturbation in a vain attempt to appear smart and also gain spiritual revenge on the popular chads they hated/envied in high school.