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>>9166020

>>9166077
ultimate kek

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>>9166020

good thread

>>9166828
moar?

>>9168325
Don't understand how this meme grew so popular especially outside this board

>>9168321
>lumping protestants with bible belt baptists

not fair desu

>>9168351
Baptism is an offshoot of Protestantism, an inevitable one at that. Without any central religious authority, anyone being free to interpret the bible however they wish, discard tradition as "false" to suit their tailored religion, the Westboro Baptists are just as "valid" as hippie gay churches.

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>>9168341
eugh

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>>9168307

>>9168327
the most aesthetically offensive part of that is that his name is torolf

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>>9168376

>>9168345
this should be posted on /lgbt/

>>9168386
this definitely isn't lit

it's uh weird

>>9168378
i always lose it at the Julius Evola

>>9168395
Your contact information should be posted on /lgbt/

>>9168359
that's like blaming the orthodox church for c*tholcis though?

>>9166695
2 real

>>9168370

Is this from the actual 50 shades series or is it fan fiction?

>>9168395
It already has
AIDS fetish was a huge meme there like a year ago

>>9166020
Why is fascism always implied to be a bad thing

>>9168653
It can't correct it's own course because it's predicated on a rigid ideology and power, there's no possibility of compromise or negotation with other social forces
Therefore it'll either devolve into barbarism or fail

>>9168656
Worked for Sparta :^)

>>9168662
Sparta is perfect example, they had a brief period of power and then went their rigid ways for another few centuries while slowly slipping into irrelevancy and increased inbreeding
The only reason Sparta has retained any cultural significance is because Athenian and other greek writers celebrated it

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my favourite one

>>9168667
You know, I would rather live in another Sparta that thrives for a a hundred years than an Athens that thrives for five

>>9168663

Why in America does no one give a shit what happens to the foetus that grows into a child once it is born? They'll fight for the foetus inside the womb but once it's born they couldn't give less of a shit save a tragedy happening. They don't care if that kid gets adequate healthcare or enough food. Or clean water. Or a good education. Any of it.

Fucking Americans. I'm glad Trump will run the country into the ground. You retards deserve it.

>>9166020
>stereotypes are not reality
This is only the case with political caricatures, such as your image, OP. Every other stereotype is reality.

>>9168681
Fuck Trump and fuck white people

>>9168681
Well the argument is about the child having a chance at life, what it makes of that chance is something else entirely

>>9168678
It would be incredibly boring and dour, Athens sounds better

>>9168693

Stop this.

>>9168715
Are you threatening me master Jedi?

>>9166828
did she get to the bit with the paralysed daughter diddling?

>>9168341
Potential pasta

>>9168343
he was pretty much a young bukowski

>>9168783
Young Ignatius*
ftfy

>>9166077
Can an anon please explain to me why people think this is a good book? I read the first chapter and it is horrifically bad.

>>9166077
What is infinite jest

>>9168662
lol it din't.

>>9168327
>Torolf entered her like she was a lottery

fucking kek, 10/10

>>9168348
nice

>>9168892
Burgers really have to be eradicated from the face of the planet.

>>9168935
I suspect it's a meme.

>>9169012
It gets over the top positive reviews from respectable papers and critics though. I've really struggled to understand how people could possibly think this is good literature. I would appreciate a non-memeological response.

>>9168469
I really don't think anyone who isn't a little kid if literally or in the mind cares at all what any of the men on the right have to say.

They are familiar faces that make money off of normal people's stupdity or unfamiliarity in the subject of science.

>>9168331
Well now I'm just sad

>>9168935
>>9169012
>>9169030
just continue reading you fucking plebs. it clicked with me at page 400. around the chapters of james incandenza's youth. finish the novel and then you will know why people like it.

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>>9169063
book has 1k+ pages

>>9168321
Can someone give me a quick summary at what the differences between Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Protestantism is? Thanks.

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>>9169068
Tradition v. Dogma v. Scripture

>>9169066
if you're too lazy to read then why are you on /lit/? at least shut the fuck up about it you disgusting slob.

>>9169073
So, Orthodoxy is all about keeping the tradition of Christianity, Catholicism is all about the rules and Protestantism is all about the Holy Bible? Then why choose one? Why isn't Christianity a movement on it's own? Why are all the Churches in my neighbourhood either Catholic or Protestant if it makes no difference in their Faith? Thanks for answering by the way. I tried to search this up on Google but I haven't found a decent website which compares the three of them and explains the differences.

>>9169090
>Why isn't Christianity a movement on it's own?
That's the million dollar question. Ideally there would just be one church, catholic in the dictionary sense of the word. Human fallibility has sadly prevented the body of Christ from coming into full communion with itself.

>>9169095
So what is the ''best'' following in your opinion? Orthodoxy, Catholicism or Protestantism? What is more important to you? The scriptures, the rules or the traditions?

>>9169068
Orthodoxy: Christianity as it should be.

Catholicism: Cult of Mary that values church traditions more than word of god. Likes gold hats and prepubescent boypucci.

Protestantism: iconoclastic autists going for sola scriptura, yet missing 14 books of it. Muh unconditional election is the meme of millenium.

>>9169068
catholicism:
pope
adoration of saints
women are nothing in church
protestants:
no pope
no saints
a woman can become kind of a priest

orthodoxy:
mass takes forever
super holy shit
an extreme form of catholicism kind of

>>9169107
Go light a candle for your idol, Ivan.

>>9169107
That's clear thank you for your information.

>>9169114
So you would also agree that Catholicism is blasphemy as it holds too much value for the Pope and it's followers instead of God and His word?

>>9169114
>i literally have no idea what orthodoxy is so let me write some incoherent drivel

>>9169066
You'll never read Gravity's Rainbow with that attitude desu senpai

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>>9169107
>gold hats

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>>9169129
>gold hats

>>9169129
I take it that you're a Catholic? Why would you say Catholicism is better? I'm trying to get as much of different viewpoints as possible.

>>9169102
I was raised Protestant but attend an Orthodox church. Catholicism is my least favorite (on theological grounds and in practice) but all 3 have their redeeming qualities. imo Orthodox is the best as long as you study the Bible on your own/in a group and don't rely on the pittance sermons offered during the liturgy. If you just want to go to church to learn go to a decent Protestant church. If you want to feel go to an Orthodox church. If you want to be overwhelmed go to a ritzy Catholic church.

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>>9169136
>gold hats

>>9169065
Hugely underrated meme image, wow

>>9169139
Thank you for your answer. I have been praying for almost 10 years now but I have never attended a church before in my life. I want to take my faith to the next level until I found out that there are three different kinds of churches out there. I was raised by atheist parents sadly so I never rolled into anything.

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>>9169148
>gold hats

>>9169138
Don't know where you live but if you are anywhere in the west near a relatively bigger city there will be a prodestant, catholic and various orthodox communities.
Go there and ask them.
A lot more of an experience than asking strangers on the interent or jsut googling it.

>>9168892
What a fucking nightmare. I grew in a home like this and it only fucked me up.

>>9169107
Friendly reminder that the Orthodox Church made Constantine a saint; despite the fact that he was baptized by Eusebius of Nicomedia, an Arian.

>>9169102
The thing is, there variations among "Protestants" can differ more from each other than from Catholicism, for instance.
Catholicism and Orthodoxy are both incredibly attached to rituals and outward appearance. Protestants generally aren't, but, as I said, "protestantism" isn't a particularly descriptive term.

>>9169065
Nice.

>>9168892
this is good

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>not talking about best christianity

C'mon /lit/ I thought you were better than this.

>>9169190
Are there any perks aside from polygamy and incest?

What is "the literary lifestyle"?
Is it just something people here tell themselves so they don't need to admit that they are contrarian hipsters?

>>9168681
Hey, man.

There are a lot of us here. Not all of us are burgers or burghers. Some of us are real human beans

>>9169068
Orthodoxy: Christianity as it was based on tradition. Don't change shit.
Catholicism: Christianity adjusted for the time. Try to make sense of it.
Protestantism: Christianity as I think it was based on the book. Bible is fact.

>>9169200
>polygamy and incest
what else do you need?
greedy bastard

>>9169200
An extremely dense afterlife philosophy

>>9169215
So Orthodoxy is old-fashioned, Catholicism is too adjusted and Protestantism is the purest form according to you? I'm currently very attracted to Orthodoxy I think.

>>9169222
Not him, but protestantism is mostly garbage. It's "based on the book" in the sense that it is all fact isn't metaphor.

Not all protestants are like this, but based Orthodox and Coptic are better.

>>9169222
>Orthodoxy is old-fashioned
>Catholicism is too adjusted

>clerical celibacy
>clerical marriage
>ordination of women

>>9169222
"Pure" christianity was a martyr cult. We lost that, the romans killed it.
The earliest christianity we have is the orthodox christianity, which is all the christian sects united under emperor Constantine. It is the traditional conservative "the true faith" christianity.
Later some knowledge appeared that challenged the orthodox views, and philosophers and theologians came up with another version. This became catholic christianity. It has changed and evolved over time, so it is the adaptable version of christianity. It also created the liberal atheist movement, which still insists that humans have inherent value, equality among people, and other christian conclusions based on the idea of a soul, but refuse God.
Protestants are a reaction of catholicism changing too much, too fast. It splintered off, saying that what we are doing is too different to what the book says, since the book didn't change with the ideas.

So protestnatism isn't a return to orthodoxy, rather a return to an earlier version of catholicism, which is still more progressive than orthodoxy.

>>9169233
>protestantism = literalism
Why are you even commenting on topics you have virtually no idea about, brainlet?

>>9169243
Like I said, not all of it, but a vast majority is.

>>9169236
Sorry but I have no idea what you're trying to say.

>>9169239
Thanks for the info, I will keep this in mind. I'm learning here more than on Google. How would one go on if he wants to get baptized? Just go to a church and ask if I can start coming there. What are the methods?

>>9169258
I have no idea. I am baptized, since we all do that when the parents decide on a name, the baby is bathed by a priest and has the ritual.

I was never very religious, and only became interested in religious lore after I became an atheist, so I couldn't tell you how you go about it.
Religion is a tool for history and anthropology for me, not a worldview. Its culture and ethics more than explanation of what things are.

>>9169068
>Orthodoxy
Mysticism

>Catholicism
Occultism

>Protestantism
New Age

>>9169268
>I am baptized, since we all do that

Seriously, why is this? Even my parents, who only ever took me to church for weddings and funerals, had me baptized. Is everyone really still that afraid of the hell boogie?

>>9169291
I don't know, especially since baptism is something you should do in old age. If you do it as a baby, you are bound to sin after it.
The idea is, first you live, and you sin, and when you are done living, you retire from the world to be modest, humble and peaceful, and THEN you baptize.
Baptizing as a baby and them masturbating and whoring as a teenager kind of defeats the purpose.

>>9169291
Because Its incredibly difficult, long and boring to convert to Catholicism or Orthodoxy as a adult.

This is definitely one of the things they've dropped the ball with.

>>9169311
Just as an example, you need to change your name.
So by doing it as a baby, you change from not having a name, to having your name.
But as an adult, you need to change from the name your property, wedding, education, loans and jobs use, to a new name.

Meanwhile Islam just demands that you say you are muslims, you go to Mecca (if you can) and pray (if you can).
Yes, even worship is optional, if your health or money don't allow it, you don't need to do it.

>>9169048
I really don't think anyone who isn't a little kid if literally or in the mind cares at all what any of the tripcodes on this board have to say.

They are familiar aliases that make attention off of normal poster's stupdity or unfamiliarity in the subject of imageboards.

>>9169120
:^)
>>9169119
and protestants think the bible is the holy book... all of those three are docmatic shit

>>9169063
>just continue reading you fucking plebs
So rather than you giving me one reason why it's good (which might result in me finishing it), I should just read a 1,700 pages of something which reads like an angsty highschooler armed with a thesaurus, whose book so far consists of a cluster-fuck of post-modern cliches,it's like Joyce had a brain hemorrhage

>>9168681

Don't agree with it, but here's the argument:

>people have negative rights, not positive ones
>not being killed is a negative right
>healthcare, food, water, education are all positive rights
>the fetus is a person
>it has the right not to be killed, but not the rights to healthcare, food, water, education
>this continues to be the case after it leaves the womb

If you agree with "fetus = human" and "rights can only be negative," this stance follows.

t. former JS Mill fanboy

>>9169125
Different anon, but Pynchon is a great writer, I think he's far beyond DFW in every dimension. I've enjoyed 'systems' novels before, IJ is just structured so clumsily and reads like a rant

>>9169348
1,070*

>>9169371

So you're saying DFW/IJ have no discernible talent?

>>9168681
America spends far more on social welfare and education per capita than most of Europe, they've just got completely different standards of living, your considered in poverty in America if you don't have air-conditioning, a car, cable or satellite TV etc.

Check your bourgeoisie signalling at the door.

>>9168681
>if you're against baby murder you must also be ancap
okay

>>9169371
Prove to me that Anglo literature isn't total garbage

Proof that we live in the matrix:
>>9168345
>Capital G
>>9168341

Schopenhauer was right.
Focoault was a cultural marxist faggot.

>>9168693
The country was great when it was still based on segragating niggers and wiping out redskins, m8

>>9169363
But healthcare, food and water are all necessary to survive. So they're negative rights since you can simply rephrase them in that way.
>not dying of starvation is a negative right
and so on.

>>9169380
Not quite Harold, but I can get over the massive gap between how the book is perceived and how it reads

>>9169444
You don't understand the negative/positive distinction.

Negative rights require no outside contribution from others, and basically equate to "leave me alone." This is where we get, life, liberty, property, etc. None of these things require enforcement or provision.

Positive rights create obligations in others. Not dying of starvation is still a positive right, because it mandates that somebody else feed you if you can't or won't feed yourself.

>>9169436
"Cultural marxist" is a catch-all term introduced by Nazi propagandists to refer to anything that undermines national socialism. Stop believing in conspiracy theories.

>>9169526
>not being killed is a negative right
But what if someones earlier actions resulted in your inability to acquire food? Then your lack of a positive right would violate your negative right.

>>9169526
>"Cultural marxist" is a catch-all term introduced by Nazi propagandists to refer to anything that undermines national socialism. Stop believing in conspiracy theories.
"Nazi" is a catch-all term introduced by Marxist propagandists to refer to anything that undermines communism and marxism

>>9169567
Not being killed =/= not dying as an indirect consequence of someone else's actions.

>Suppose there's a bag of unclaimed chips on the ground.
>A starving man is a yard away from the chips, but I'm right there.
>I'm kinda hungry, so I eat the chips.
>This causes him to die.

He may have "been killed" by my actions in an abstract sense, but I didn't kill him directly, so I didn't violate his negative right, and it wasn't murder. Same would be true if the roles were switched, and his hunger caused me to die.

>>9169068
Catholics = priests cannot marry
Protestants = priests may marry
Orthodox = priests must marry

It's all in the modal verb, anon.

>>9169571
The former is demonstrably true. The latter isn't.

>>9169526

>"Cultural marxist" is a catch-all term introduced by Nazi propagandists to refer to anything that undermines national socialism.

"No."

Here's the old Wiki article, before your guys stuffed it down the memory hole:

https://archive.is/YzkIS

>>9169604
>It was on wikipedia once, therefore it's true!

>>9168341
>-221 points
You have to be bad in other level when even reddit thinks you are bad.

>>9169598
I understand. It would still be possible to orchestrate murders indirectly but I guess that intent would make the difference then.

>>9169603
When you say 'demonstrably', I'll have you consider, throwing off a citation of a Marxist historian does not constitute infallible proof.

>>9169607

>Unironically defends the wiping of a perfectly legitimate, well-cited article in favour of redirecting to a conspiracy theory subsection

Kek, so dedicated to the truth.

>>9169616
>Everyone in academia who disagrees with me is a Marxist!
>Find a non-Marxist academic who disagrees with me!
>You can't! I win!

>>9169617
Nobody self-identifies as a cultural Marxist. Writing an article, no matter how well-sourced, about cultural Marxism is like writing an article about "The School of Faggotry." You can make up whatever criteria you want, lump a bunch of thinkers in to The School of Faggotry, and label them as Academic Faggots using sources that line them up with your over-broad criteria. This is propagandism, not truth-seeking.

>>9168496
The female character exists and has agency, so no

>>9169200
a community safety net - they go to great lengths to take care of their own

>>9169677
That's only true if your a woman, Mormons exile their boys for next to no reason to reduce competition.

>>9168892
this is why churchy people end up as sexual assaulters

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>>9169648
>Nobody self-identifies as a cultural Marxist. Writing an article, no matter how well-sourced, about cultural Marxism is like writing an article about "The School of Faggotry." You can make up whatever criteria you want, lump a bunch of thinkers in to The School of Faggotry, and label them as Academic Faggots using sources that line them up with your over-broad criteria. This is propagandism, not truth-seeking.

>>9169706
What do you even mean by that pic? Anon was right and you know it.

>>9169715
How can you be in denial about movement so visible? IDK brah, that's just WEIRD

>>9169720
What did you mean by that pic, though?

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>>9169715

>>9169724
Why should I care about him?

>>9169729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8

>>9169734
Are his books any good?

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>>9169738

>>9169083
Some people don't have the time to waste you dumbass NEET

>>9169750
Fantastic pic but I wish you would have given me an opinion so I'd be more inclined to read it. What is good about this book?

>>9169755

Maybe they shouldn't be wasting time that could be spent reading on /lit/ then

>>9169764
Damn, I'm in.

MAKE PHILOSOPHY GREAT AGAIN

>>9168349
>literally all of /r9k/ in a nutshell

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>>9166020

>>9169648

>Nobody self-identifies as a cultural Marxist.

Nobody self-identifies as a fascist either, nowadays, yet lo and behold...

>>9168348
>tfw this guy is a real life /r9k/ shitposter

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This "humor" thread is going through a period of not being very funny.

By the way.

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Just this once more.

>>9169805
I'm quite the opposite of this pic and /lit/ is the only board I use these days.

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>>9168672
>guy standing in the middle of a circular rail

>>9169706
Jameson has never referred to himself as a "cultural Marxist." He's a literary critic who discusses literature through a Marxist lens. Talking about class relations in books =/= undermining western values or whatever it is that Nazis claim cultural Marxists do.

>>9169863
Then they aren't fascists. They might have beliefs similar to be fascists, or be useful idiots for fascists, but they aren't fascists.

There's also a growing community of people who DO self-identify as fascists, so, y'know.

>>9168381
>-10 degrees
Woah there Rus man.

>>9168905

Memes aside, fractals are very important for thinking about Spiritual matters.

>>9169915
I think it's unfair to Miles Davis. That 30-year sore throat of his was no joke.

>>9169764
Wow.

That's pretty much coherent

>>9169805
>fleshlight instead of strapon

Also, The Cuckold? This isn't /pol/.

>>9168331
not funny
stop posting this shit
everybody who had part in this should die a violent and painful death

>>9168331
Never fails to makes me laugh

>>9168935

how can you expect someone to take the time to explain why it's a good book if you can't be arsed to explain why you think it's a bad one?

>>9169805

>Politics
>Drugs
>Pornography
>Jazz

/lit/ is a thomistic board. Stop disrespecting our culture.

>>9169805
>Neil Gaiman
Doesn't /lit/ supposed to hate him?

>>9168935
I agree with >>9170240

You blew a target rich opportunity. You could have said, "For all its navel-gazing bluster, inventing a new kind of narrator as a post-modern joke for the purpose of glorifying the lives of the figurants plays out as an excuse to maunder on for 1100 pages. He's laughing at his agent, his editor, and his publisher for getting away with one of the greatest pranks in literary history - making everyone believe that the 1000 page doorstopper is necessary."

Or you could have said,
"After landing perhaps a hundred or so whiplash inducing blows to the reader's equilibrium, it turns out he's buried the lead 800 pages in, when a ghost - a literal actual, in that world to be believed ghost (ouch! my nose, Hamlet!) - trots out the entire PoMo intellectual programme of the thing, from which we discover that the joke is on ----

us."

But you whiffed it.

>>9168892
Exactly this is how you treat your faggot son. You still love him but don't let him be fucked by dragon dildos because the Jews have poisoned the media with this gay bullshit.

Great that also America has some good parents.

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More trolley classics

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>>9169222
But you can't just be 'ortodox' - it's very different between, for example, greece and russia. Also trying to be ortodox in the us, based on advice from a 4chan board, is just straight up fashion accessory.

I mean choosing religion in general b/c it appears 'romatic' to you seems off.

>>9169239
wasn't division between east and west purely political in nature tho? i might be wrong, but de facto after the fall of western empire neither patriarch of constantinopole or rome never accepted another as his superiors and with time, as east lost it's influence in the peninsula, everyone went their own way. Later 'beef' originated from politics - mainly from eastern rulers acting spastic over italian cities not giving shit about him and for example with iconoclasm you could clearly see the divide between places where east retained influence and the rest

but if someone can summarize relations between east and west between 5th and 8th century i would be very thankful

>>9169068
Orthodox and protestant churches are also way more nationalistic because they don't have this one leader called Pope.
Basically every major Orthodox country has its own leaders who are completely independent of each other. These nationalistic churches are also a great to control the masses for the states' rulers.
Basically the same but not so extrem are the Protestant churches. For example protestant voters were the biggest supporters of Hitler.
Also, how strict they are completely depends on the country. In Europe they are way laxer than the Catholic church, in South Korea they are wayyyy stricter than the Catholic church.

>>9168681

Religious people devote a lot of time and money to charity.

If you have a job you can get healthcare.

The water in the US is a lot cleaner than in other countries.

There is a food program for the poor.

The US has free public education for everyone. Scholarships exist for smart poor people and also minorities.

t. not American.

>>9170601
This is all true but by yuropoor welfare heaven logic you are supposed to guarantee _everyone_ food, an apartment and enough pocket money for cultural participation no matter if they didn't worked a single day in their life, became criminal, don't have the state's citizenship, etc. paid by very high income and sales tax rates.

t. German

>>9168668
This hits too close to home.

>>9169845

Sometimes when I get bored I want to do this, yet I never do. It's quite funny for me to witness though. I also sometimes want to write eloquent reviews for amateur pornography.

>>9169190
>>9169200
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement

>>9168331
jfc i'm ashamed to be posting on the same board

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i love this board so much :^))))

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have a great day guys!

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Keep contributing to the board, its because of you that its so great!!!! :^)))

>>9170913

What did he mean by this

>>9170913
fucking rekt

>>9170913
It's because he said "not really"

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>>9170913

>>9168343
Why does this have just the slightest tinge of Dostoevsky

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>>9168359
Dude, not all protestants are "hippie and gay" Protestantism was a movement to return to the roots of Christian faith. The demand for Sola Scriptura in the Augsburg confession was a demand for Churches to shed off the earthly vices of indulgences, made-up fasts, and other trappings of the corrupt church. Baptists and especially joel osteen are fucking dreadful, but they are offshoots of laziness and greed, not a desire to shed the corruption of the catholic church. It was called the reformation because they didn't want to leave the church they just wanted to return to the word.

>>9168331
:(

Which thread did that guy link her to?

>>9168345
You know, sometimes I feel pretty nihilistic, but stuff like this just makes me want to sacrifice my entire life to helping others and doing good...

>>9168321
Orthodoxy: Slavic ethnic club with cool mysticism
Catholics: Not even the Pope takes it seriously, literally just a pedophile club that sometimes does charity and always asks for money
Traditional Protestantism(Calvinists, some Lutheran's, some Baptists): What happens when you take the Bible seriously. Respectable, probably the "truest" form of Christianity, but easily debunkable.
Contemporary Protestantism: "Hey Stacy, ya coming to young life tonight? It's OK to get gangbanged and smoke meth as long as you keep Jesus in your heart!"

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>>9169604
>https://archive.is/YzkIS

>In current political rhetoric, the term has come into use by some social conservatives, such as historian William S. Lind, who associate it with a set of principles that they claim are in simple contradiction with traditional values of Western society and the Christian religion. In this usage, political correctness and multiculturalism, which are identified with cultural Marxism, are argued to have their true origin in a Marxian movement to undermine or abnegate such traditional values.

Yeah, because you can't treat niggers and faggots nice because you want to. Noo, it's the Marx boogeyman that made you do it.

Asshat.

>>9168467
Is this the original or was that guy meming?

>>9168663
>pro-life means anti-condom

This is why the debate should be pro-abortion vs. anti-abortion. Keep the labels to the actual issue at hand, none of this "life" "choice" moral pandering bullshit.

>>9171020
>Hey Stacy, ya coming to young life tonight? It's OK to get gangbanged and smoke meth as long as you keep Jesus in your heart!
Very accurate from my experience

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>>9168668
high school version of that meme

>>9171066
>why does sartre smoke such expensive cigarettes

lol

>>9168376
>>9168307
does anyone have the one of Slavoj and blue and red ink as it relates to 4chan?

>>9171066
>>9171079
Gauloissies taste like dirt desu. Camel nons are much better.

>>9169200
No blacks allowed.
Seriously, racism is part of their creation myth.

>>9168892
>America

>>9171029
It's usually used to describe things like introducing hyper-sexualized imagery into media, which distracts the young and impressionable from reading, writing, 'rithmetic, etc.

It's not so much about "I'm really afraid of the Jews deconstructing my racism!" as it is about "I'm really afraid of the Jews deconstructing my tradition of Protestant work ethic!"

Just so you know. I personally don't like to use the term "Cultural Marxism" for this, since there are more apt identifiers, but I think the effect is real, even if ((((((DA JOOZ)))))) probably aren't running it as a massive conspiracy across generations.

>>9168892
16 upvotes, fucking hell. Im lucky I'm (mostly) straight, or this would've almost certainly happened to me.

Sometimes I start to think that Christians just understand the value of spirituality, and don't actually think god cares if you love other men, and then I see shit like this. How does one fall so far down the rabbit hole?

>>9171123
American Christians don't worship a god, they worship America as God.

>>9171123
It's all the Apostle Paul's fault.

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>>9171082

>>9171142
thanks friendo

>>9169139
>If you want to feel go to an Orthodox church.

Could you say more about this? Orthodox is the one denomination I know nothing about, but this sounds really appealing to me

>>9169441
Has Trump ever said when America was great, or is this just implied?

>>9171198
it's an implication. I presume most people belive ~1950s

>>9169009
Nah, fag-loving degenerates like your kind should be eradicated instead.

>>9168325
that is absolutely moving

>>9171214
>>>/pol/

>>9169805
I wish I could still take prozac

:(

>>9171157
This is only true because most Catholic priests don't have the public speaking chops to back up their typically vast knowledge of theology and philosophy. If you go to the right Catholic church you'll get a homily that will make you feel like none other.

>>9171221
proper diet and exercise are statistically more effective than anti-depressants

>>9170473
>I mean choosing religion in general b/c it appears 'romatic' to you seems off.

How else are you supposed to choose your religion?

>>9171233
> If you go to the right Catholic church you'll get a homily that will make you feel like none other.
>right Catholic church
As someone who was raised Catholic and attended 12 years attending Catholic school, good luck finding that.

>>9168892
Sounds like concerned loving parents if you ask me

>>9171048
But I'm pro-choice but not at all pro-abortion.

You can hate abortion and still think it should be legal

>>9170960
Because it's an egomaniacal autist not getting love then attempting to get a petty revenge. It's basically Notes From Underground

>>9171131
Could you explain further?

>>9171235
I do both of those things to a decent extent. Nothing beat a prescription tat actually worked (until the side effects made it no longer an option).

>>9168359
southern Baptists do not represent Baptism as a whole
Baptists reject infant baptism and reject the idea that baptism is needed to enter Heaven; there are some other things, such as they tend to be even more "the Word and only the Word" than most Protestant sects, but that's about it
most flavors of Protestantism are the same, and you'll find bigger variation from church to church and region to region than between different sects

>>9168656
>there's no possibility of compromise or negotation with other social forces
you do know what corporatism is, right?

>>9171306
I'm sorry to hear that, but I found Prozac zombififying for lack of a better term. Have you ever tried psychedelics?

>>9171233
What is the difference between your average orthodox, and protestant church service? I've been to many protestant church services and it doesn't work for me. Will orthodox services be much different?

>>9171325
>What is the difference between your average orthodox, and protestant church service?
pomp and circumstance

>>9171308
nobody [credible] believes physical baptism is necessary for salvation. the thief on the cross my man.

even the catholics are forced to admit that those who die 'wanting to be baptized' but without actually having done so are """baptized""" in spirit just before they pass away.

>>9171325
>protestant
christian rock
one hour sermon by dude in flip flops
maybe take communion
more christian rock
go home

>orthodox
liturgy
5 minute sermon
communion
veneration of the cross
coffee hour

>>9171340
Catholics have consistently been forced out of their traditionalist ethos (which is part of the allure of Catholicism) by their inability to keep consistent with changing cultural values. Salvation does not lie in worshiping the holy Apostolic Church.

>>9169526
>Negative rights require no outside contribution from others, and basically equate to "leave me alone."
well that's a fucking stupid distinction then

>>9169526
>Positive rights create obligations in others. Not dying of starvation is still a positive right, because it mandates that somebody else feed you if you can't or won't feed yourself.
not dying requires others to not murder you

>>9171321
>I found Prozac zombififying for lack of a better term.
Interesting. I found it made me feel much more sociable and generally happy and relaxed. I'm pretty intense normally though so maybe it depends on how intense you are normally.

>Have you ever tried psychedelics?

No, why?

>>9168681
there are a lot of programs in America to feed, clothe, and educate children
they're not as effective as they should be, but what is
(not to say which is more important)

>>9171325
No idea about orthodox.
>Catholic
You stand, you sing, you sit, you stand, you sing, you chant, you sit, stand, kneel, sing, eat bread, leave. At some point a pretty girl will read a little bit of the bible. At another a priest will deliver a homily, it will usually be pretty basic.
>Protestant
Could be anything from Catholic v2.0 to snake-talking, exorcisms, wild singing and dancing, etc. Really depends on the church.

>>9171401

>No, why?

Not that guy, but microdosing LSD has shown promise (no more than anecdotal so far) for a wide range of ailments, depression included.

I don't have real depressions, and I've never bothered to go to a doctor about it, but I get very listless and sad in the winter months. LSD microdoses pretty much cure that.

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>>9171401
I do not want to presume that I know your brain chemistry nor any of the psychological baggage that you may have happened into, but when I (vaguely) remember my time on Prozac,I remember sleeping 15 hours a day and being socially amenable to just about anything.

I found LSD particularly to be helpful in the resolution of my childhood trauma, which was the cause for much of my depression. Though I was never diagnosed with a depressive disorder as defined by the DSM-V, or IV, but rather my 'depressive' manifestations were indicative of implications of that psychological trauma of my childhood which I was more easily able to analyze under such the influence of such drugs.

>>9171306
Paul was the guy who inspired most of the Puritanical attitude toward sex. Homosexuality, but also sex in general, was something he constantly brought up in his letters. He was also a misogynist.
Or at least that's the impression his surviving writings give. Certainly most justifications for that kind of thing come either from Old Testament Hebrew law or Paul.

>>9169863
>Nobody self-identifies as a fascist
>>>/pol/

>>9171439
I AM that guy, and I would say that microdosing LSD is an untenable position to take for the implications of seasonal affective disorder.

>>9171439
Microdosing LSD is such a stupid meme. A guy did a double-blind study on himself, took something for a few weeks, took another for a few weeks, didn't know which one was microdosed LSD. Reported zero perceptible benefits, no IQ change, no change outside the margin of error whatsoever. It doesn't do anything.

https://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing

In larger doses, LSD seems to make people more open-minded and willing to consider ideas that are weird as fuck, but don't seem to make them more prone to much of anything else.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/28/why-were-early-psychedelicists-so-weird/

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this one's stupid but always lightens my mood

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>>9171274
>abortion should be legal
>I'm not pro-abortion
what did he mean by this?

>>9171477
how fucking stupid are you as to be unable;e to parse a simple fucking post

>>9171066
hits home

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>>9168327
>suffered from dick Parkinson's

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>>9171477
>There shouldn't be criminal penalties for X
>I personally believe you shouldn't do X
>These are utterly irreconcilable positions, I cannot see how someone could disagree with your doing X but support your ability to choose X

>>9171456
I have a hard time sleeping much so I found prozac normalized me. Same with the social amenability.

My main concern with LSD is that I'll have a bad trip. I had one when I first tried marijuana, and that was pretty scary even though it only lasted a couple hours.

>>9171461

Makes sense. We ignore tons of other similar OT laws so I think there's actually a good chance no one would give a shit about gays if it weren't for Paul.

What is the best Christian Church to join if I don't really think that the Bible is objectively true or anything, but enjoy the metaphors, stories, sprituality, beauty, etc.. Is there any church where I would fit in or should I just go back to atheism and read Nietzsche or something?

>>9171240
'God' speaks to you or some shit, idk don't ask me.

Usually you are born into it.

>>9171613
Being born into a religion that may or may not suit you doesn't seem very /lit/ to me

>>9171592
Not that guy, but you don't have to trip - just google 'lsd microdosing depression'.

In many cases you can look at a depression as a neurochemical problem - lack of 'juice' inside of your brain. Taking 20ug when you wake up solves that w/o any other effects(your eyes look normal, you can drive safely, work etc). Ofc brain is very complex and lsd works mainly just on serotonin but still it's a thing worth looking into.

>>9171609
If you don't believe the Christian claims don't join the Christian church. It's the same as carrying around a copy of Kafka you plan on never reading, just so you can pull it out while waiting for the bus and angle the cover so everyone around you can see it.

>>9171609
Maybe don't go to Church if you don't believe in God.

You should probably read around more, and consider that God doesn't have to be an old man in the sky like Michaelangelo interpreted Him to be so he could paint a dope-ass ceiling. God just has to be That Which Moves the Universe.

jfguerigjvrgvtr tgtim the smartest person in the world

>>9171128

Explain

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>>9171654
Okay but it doesn't work.

>>9168357
I read it all and laughed.

>>9168357
Wow I didn't know it was possible to be pro-choice for essays.

>>9171654
Is this safe in the long term? Taking (somewhat) untested drugs daily as though they are antidepressants seems risky to me.

>>9171668
>>9171669
What are some good books to make me a Christian when I've been disaffected from it due to bad experiences in my youth? Preferably fiction.

Also, is episcopalianism /lit/?

>>9168892
>help, my son has SSA!

>forbid him to date girls

American logic

>>9171747
>make me a Christian
Not really any literature that will do that. I saw one thread where OP was reading Mere Christianity by C S Lewis. He's pretty accessible to non-believers who are on the fence.
>fiction
Fuck, idk. There are Christian themes running through a lot of literature. War and Peace is rife with it, for example. I'm sure there are better recommendations, I just can't think of any right now. Might come up with some later though.

>>9171776
>Mere Christianity by C S Lewis

I've actually read that, it didn't convince me. At this point I don't think I'll be convinced it's "true" via logic, but I was hoping I might be able to connect with it in other ways.

>>9171776
CS Lewis is dumb af though. All his arguments are awful

>>9171834
Not an argument

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>>9170913

>>9168327
fucking lol

RIP
1915-1967

>>9171157
typically very tight communities that are also very welcoming, coffee hour humanizes everyone and everything, its really easy to follow along with (i mean unless you attend a liturgy conducted in Greek or Russian etc.)

There's something simple but beautiful about an Orthodox service. Protestants tend to be too heady and meet in really underwhelming venues. Catholic churches are very imposing and every service I've been to has made me feel very alone.

Best thing I can say about my Orthodox church is its comfy and I go home every week with free food.

>>9171142
amazing

>>9169258
>How would one go on if he wants to get baptized?
It's different for different variations and sects, but they all will need to know that you're serious, and most likely wait for some time to show that.

>>9168670
Heh

>>9169863
>Nobody self-identifies as a fascist either, nowadays
that's not true though
there are people out there that openly say we need to have a government where the strongest rule

>>9171235
>>9171235>proper diet and exercise are statistically more effective than anti-depressants
no, that fucking statement is more effective than antidepressrants, because it's a fucking laugh riot

>>9169805
>hating on the Blues

>>9171048
The pro-lifers used to be anti birth-control, of which they saw abortion as just the last line of birth control, the least defensible. They've either given up on ever making that an issue since the 70's, or they're just quietly waiting for us to let our guard down so they can make condoms illegal.

>>9171249
Nobody was

>>9169648
>Nobody self-identifies as a cultural Marxist
In real life, labels are descriptive, not deterministic. It's possible to be X, where be := "possesses all attributes of X (or enough attributes of X to pass some threshold) while still claiming not to be X.

>>9172072
See, this guy gets it. A person isn't a fascist just because they say they are a fascist, they're a fascist if they have fascist attributes. A cultural Marxist is a cultural Marxist not if they claim to be, but if they possess enough attributes in common with cultural Marxists.

>>9168331
:(

this is a humor thread not a sad thread

>>9172086
go running three times a week for a month

you won't remember why you were depressed.

>>9172161
I haven't been depressed in a long time
when I was, going for a run would not have helped it

>>9172152
>A cultural Marxist is a cultural Marxist not if they claim to be, but if they possess enough attributes in common with cultural Marxists.
I would agree, but there doesn't seem to be an agreed-upon definition of the term. I think something like "complete Marxist" would be more accurate anyway, because Marx did write about culture as well as economics and it's rare to find someone that believes in one side of his writings (and similar writings) but not the other.

>>9172169
It helped me.
Did you ever try?

>>9172184
I didn't start exercising until about a year and a half ago. I was depressed in grade school because no one liked me because I was a fucking know-it-all and socially oblivious.

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>humor thread
>halfway through no pictures just autistic debate

never change /lit/

>>9172161
Are you referring to the mild depression that tends to occur in adulthood when you're sick of sitting all day at your office job?

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>>9171029
>as american as apple pie
>both fictional characers

if you think the americans who fought the actual nazis, the americans who fought on behalf of a country of racial segregation and strict gender roles, are on your side then you're fucking deluded

it's a cliche but if you showed americans from the 1940's what their country would become they wouldn't have bothered

>>9172346
>it's a cliche but if you showed americans from the 1940's what their country would become they wouldn't have bothered
that's ignoring the black regiments and the many many gays in the military

>>9171066
I think it should say, "I hope I wake up as a beetle"

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>>9172487
what would we have done without them!

>>9172526
>nigga stole my bike!
>spoils of war nigga!

>>9172533
I see your misspelling fagtron

>>9172539
what depth you have, what penetrating insight

>>9171142
wow. Incredible.

>>9170919
How and why? I'm assuming they hollowed out the book, but how do you keep it properly sealed to keep the smoke from seeping out?
I might try this

>>9168892
I don't see a problem with this

>>9171029
Punching someone in the face is really stupid, not only can you deliver someone a deadly blow right faster than you think and and get manslaughter, you can utterly crush their jaw and subject the person from 5-6 weeks up to a year of a wired up jaw that needs to be put in with very extensive and painful surgery. And that's nowhere near the end of it, since you can still get infections, wich happen quite often, you might have to have entire parts of your jaw removed. If you puke you're dead, if you get a drool buildup you're dead as well.

Speaking from experience here, don't punch anyone in the face unless you really mean it.

>>9170473
>wasn't division between east and west purely political in nature tho?

King's authority over church, worship of icons, holy war, treatment of infidels, treatment of heretics, tax exemption for church, church property, priest chastity and property, a lot of stuff was disagreed on.
Catholics basically adapted to solve new problems, orthodox tried to endure them without changing.

>>9170473
>but if someone can summarize relations between east and west between 5th and 8th century i would be very thankful

This divide really began in the 11th century. But if you want to see its roots, look at Bulgaria being recognized.
The Bulgarians could've been catholic, they played both sides and took bribes and maneuvered politically to get holdings in Hungary, Moravia, Greece.
Basically their khan/tzar said "whoever gives me the most stuff, I will allow them to also give me a crown".

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>>9171020
Not just Slav Club. we let Greeks in too.