That's right, best book ever written contest. Feel free to just say best in blank genre too, if you're afraid of making too many people mad.
À la recherche du temps perdu
>>9166871
The Brothers Karamazov
Ulysses
How do I overcome going mad over trying to reconcile reading as much as I can of as much as I want and knowing it is nearly impossible to do so while having a job, relationships, etc?
Straighten out your priorities, quit your job, ditch the slags and get on with it.
I have this same problem, I started studying engineering last month and I haven't read a single book since. I plan on reading in between trips(I only take the bus).
If I read at home I feel I'm loosing time in my studies and it's unbearable.
>>9166766
>yet u have time for the internet
etc. etc.
What does Lit think of manga and Japanese light novels? Can they be considered serious works of literature?
>>9166659
Nice input faggot. I never said i liked this stuff. I just wanted some lit expert opinions
My guess is that they are called light novels so that they're not taken as serious works of literature.
Who is the coolest character in all of lit?
>>9166637
dixon
>>9166637
Satan
Fonzie from the Happy Days novelizations
Which books are best to read if I'm autistic?
Comics
Renaissance (art and) literature is The Literature of autism
Hypnerotomachia Poliphili
Why is irony considered to be the only honest attitude?
If you're taking anything remotely serious, you get tagged an autist, le wrong generation, extremist, or what have you.
Any thinker who delved into a similar observation more deeply?
>>9166541
I'll give you the meme answer: David Foster Wallace was taking about how tiresome that shit was getting in the mid 1990's. The internet has merely projected it to greater heights than ever before. It is commonplace to mock experts, people who dedicate their lives to study or to their works, and while this was once done out of jealousy it is now simply the herd mentality- being able to understand most ironic scenarios or craft irony from something is one of the most basic levels of intelligence and many people feel content to believe themselves intellectuals due to their understanding of irony. To go any further takes time, effort, passion, things that most people don't have all at the same time
>>9166541
Because on a society drowned by skeptical materialism the only consistent attitude is to mask your suffering with a layer of "le irony".
Does anyone consider it honest? I use it as an anaesthetic.
To all the mexican or latin american anons:
Who was better, Rulfo or Fuentes?
Discuss.
(Poniatowska is a no-good hack, of course. And it isn't because she's a woman, arguably our most famous poet is a woman. Poniatowska is just plain bad and isn't even fucking mexican.)
>>9166539
Rulfo
>>9166561
y tho
By what measurements? Why should one be better than the other? Why does it matter? It doesn't tell us anything about them, except that one was """"better"""" than the other.
how good is your command of the english language
good enough
>>9166488
I know when to use whom, whomever, whomsoever, and whomsoevers.
Makes me feel like a smarty to drop those pronouns on people
When I was a freshman the head of the English Department said I had a "remarkable command of the English language".
but let's skip over scientific stuff)
So Google claims that there are around 130 million published books in existence, and let's suppose that only 0.01% of those are the best of the best. That would be around 13,000 books.
Now let's say on average that you read two books every week; you would then only be able to read around 8000 books in the span of 70 years.
So naturally the question becomes: what is the best way to test a book so that you don't waste your time reading a potentially unfulfilling book?
Should one only read a few passages from the book via a google search? Should one only read the first and last chapters?
And how does one separate the truly unique books from the ones that, while good, are merely one adaptation of a centuries-old archetype?
I'm of the opinion that writing is more beneficial than reading, although obviously if you don't read then your writing will likely not end up being fruitful for you. So then the question becomes: what is also the best way to expose one's self to the most unique writing styles?
I wish there was some sort of online database categorizing books by their writing styles, or what they uniquely offer that others don't. Goodreads is still outdated in this regard.
Please stop depressing me anon, I've already stopped reading any novels to read more philosophy and political theory.
>>9166468
That's tough as those are some of the most dense genres.
>>9166453
Getting a list of potential books and asking on decent forums would be a good start. Someone has to have read it to find out if it's shit, and you may be able to find one
Any good books that anybody recommends? Haven't found a good one in a while.
There's thousands of great books being discussed here all the time. Just lurk more friend
Also don't read YA trash like your pic
>>9167021
The Giver is great intro lit you butthead.
>Good
What did he mean by this? Also this pic might be relevant for you OP ;)
Which one was the superior novel?
I prefer the Bleeding Edge by a long shot. I really hope they don't make it into a movie.
BE is dogshit. The first anon genuinely seems like a retarded person. Especially for that film comment.
Both are awful.
Plato BTFO.
Really, why do we still bother with the greeks?
Ok
>>9166343
Popper more like Pooper
>Socrates had stressed that he was not wise; that he was not in possession of truth, but that he was a searcher, an inquirer, a lover of truth.
>How did Plato convert this doctrine? ... The change made by Plato is indeed tremendous. His lover is no longer the modest seeker, he is the proud possessor of truth. A trained dialectician, he is capable of intellectual intuition, i.e. of seeing, and of communicating with, the eternal, the heavenly Forms or Ideas. Place high above all ordinary men, he is 'god-like, if not . . . divine', both in his wisdom and in his power. ... He is the Philosopher-King. ...
J.D. Salinger was regularly published in exclusive literary magazines like the New Yorker, influenced fantastic authors like John Updike and Phillip Roth, and is frequently cited as one of the best American writers of the 20th century.
He also had a recorded IQ of 104, was a terrible student, and flunked out of three different colleges.
Maybe I'm projecting here, but I think that both readers and writers have an unfortunate tendency to get hung up on the appearance and demonstration of intelligence. You can create evocative and even intelligent art without being a genius yourself. There were thousands of writers who were smarter than Salinger and producing literature at the same time he was, but virtually all of them were not as entertaining and have already been forgotten by time.
An emotional connection to the audience is much more important than an intellectual one, and that connection can come from pretty much anyone if they're given the proper time and experience toward developing artistic skill.
>>9166339
Him and Steinbeck give me some hope that I don't have to finish college to be decently successful or god forbid, "accomplished" in life as a writer.
Are you working on anything, anon?
>>9166339
Salinger is without a doubt my favorite writer. He had a truly unique style, which made him one of the preeminent American writers of the 20th century. He's, like, my writing idol.
>>9166413
Worry not, friend! According to whom do you need a ritzy college degree in order to write literature?
It's also worth noting that Salinger took a writing course or two at Columbia.
stealing this thread from /mu/
ITT: Post your Myers-Briggs personality type and your favourite piece of literature
I hope you get cancer. Sage. Reported.
>>9166268
>introvert
>Steppenwolf
>VBBC
>your moms diary
What methods are there for self-editing? Does editing larger works (equal/greater than novellas) require a different approach than editing short stories? Right now it seems that I'll knock out about 2500-5000 words in a session, take a few days off, then go back and reread/edit but the editing is usually just minor alterations here and there. I also have a friend who is great for reading over my stuff and that's where the bulk of suggestions come from, but I'm wondering how I can effectively edit my own work with a bit more criticality (and if there are resources or tried-and-true methods for this).
>>9166253
What's he reading
It could be complimentary analysis
>>9166253
In my experience, another set of eyes is the best thing. It's easy to understand your writing when you've written it. Your readers won't understand it as easily as you. Leave a few days at least and perhaps write another story, short of not. You want your attention to not be on the writing your project so you can properly edit. First, just read. If there are story problems write them out and see what is necessary or not. Then, if needed, sound out sentences and dialogue to check if they sound natural. You may be repeating ideas in different words unintentionally. Third, the micro edit. You should be happy with the majority of your work. Read through and measure sentence flow. Pay attention to the first and last lines/paragraphs of every chapter. Make things sound interesting. Every page needs the reader to want to carry on. Obviously correct spelling and grammar errors. Then run it through a friend or, if you can afford it, editor. You are almost done. Eventually you will refine to a point where editing would change the meaning and nature of your writing and that means you are ready. Accept that it won't be perfect.
Hope this helps.
>>9166253
For simple grammatical errors and the like your software might not be picking up, scramble your story paragraph by paragraph so that in a contextual manner the overarching story makes no sense. Read your paragraphs backwards in full sentences to make sure they read correctly on their own. Because you are the author, and you have the general gist of how your writing goes, another set of eyes will always be your best editor- but if you force your brain to look at it critically and analytically instead of artistically via scrambling and backwards reading you can find a lot of errors.