Log date: 11 25 2016
I have yet to find a partner on this planet.
It seems no one is interested in sharing their time with me. I have attempted to infiltrate the gay ranks by changing my hair into a more flamboyant tone but it seems it has only aggrivated the straights and the gays are still out of range.
Things are looking grimm this year it seems I will be spending winter alone once more.
End log.
>>7293500
Captain's log stardate 09147.2
I have encountered a world where a single religion dominates the entire population. This religion appears to be strangely contagious and it has recently "infected" my chief security officer.
He's a big guy
End log.
peridot no
Discuss your FFS goals. For all you mtf trannies.
If you havent done FFS yet:
>How are you planning to save enough money for the surgery?
>How much do you intend to spend?
>Which parts do you intend to feminise? (Forehead, jaw, chin, nose, ALL?)
If you already had FFS:
>How much did you spend?
>How did you save enough money for it?
>How long were you saving money for it?
>Did it turn out how you wanted it to turn out?>Which parts did you feminise? (Forehead, jaw, chin, nose, ALL?)
>Do you pass?
C'mon fem"boys" and girls. Let us discuss this for once. It's way more important than genital surgery.
i'm gonna need it but the whole finding a surgeon is incredibly overwhelming, not to mention getting the money
and then i'd have to be completely out and full-time at that point
>>7292990
I'm a femboy thats planning on getting FFS. I guess I can admit that my brain did get feminised the same way trannies brains did, but I dont want to or need to live like a girl. I just want my BODY to be more feminine. So its closer to body disphoria than gender dysphoria since I still want to be considered a boy with a peen.
Anyway.
My plan is getting a slightly above minimum wage job and save almost everything each month. I'll be moving back to my parent owned large apartment so I wont have to be paying for rent or food. Just meds (bicalutamide anti androgen and raloxifen boob blocking estrogen). How long it takes for me to save for FFS depends on how much I need to spend.
Unfortunately I have no idea how much it will cost.
Is it like 20 000-40 000 price range? Right? Anyone can clear the average price to me?
>>7292957
>what's the point?
there is no feminisation surgery for my shoulders, ribcage and other manly bits
If there was a simple cure for homosexuality and gender dysmorphia, would you take it?
Why or why not?
No.
My first conscious thought in this world, in that moment from when I went from being a brainless baby to having awareness of my surroundings, was how much I hated straight people. Why would I want to become the very thing I hate with unlimited hate?
Idk.
personally, I would take it without hesitation; but then again, I would loose my boyfriend
>>7289488
No, I don't wanna become part of the patriarchy.
>AGP questions and answers
>Thoughts and feelings / emotions
>Help, advice, guidance
>Be cozy and chill out
>What is AGP?
Autogynephilia, from Greek αὐτό- ("self"), γυνή ("woman") and φιλία ("love")
Broadly, arousal to the thought of being a woman. It can take many forms - being aroused at imagining or seeing yourself with a female body, dressing in clothes that make you appear feminine, acting in stereotypical "feminine" ways, or others.
>Isn't AGP just discredited pseudoscience?
No, you might be thinking of Blanchard's Typology, which includes the idea of AGP. Regardless of whether or not you agree with Blanchard's ideas, AGP is very real to the people who experience it.
>I'm AGP, does this mean I'm not trans?
No, you can be AGP and trans.
>Aren't you all just trannies in denial?
Some people with AGP will go on to transition, while others are content with incorporating it into their sex life or simply the occasional indulgence. It varies greatly in intensity. If AGP consumes a lot of your mental energy or causes you lots of distress, it is probably worth asking more questions.
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>>7209683
this might be of interest to you
>>7253529
this too
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>>7263273
>tfw it's super hot but makes you feel dysphoric
What do cis lesbians think of Lena Dunham?
>>7259113
I'm a cishet white guy, so not relevant, but would date & smash if she wasn't such a seemingly angry person
>>7259113
seems like boring rich straight girl that thinks shes interesting. They are a dime a dozen.
sister fister
>bisexual general keeps dying
>looks like we can't make a commitment
Today's discussion question
When you just want a fuck, purely for your own sexual gratification, which gender is your favorite?
>>7232897
Well it depends. Women are great for more relaxed, easy sex, but guys are better for instense "i'm-fucking-you-just-try-and-stop-me" sex, y'know? Like men fight back a lot harder and the struggle is a lot more fun. Women just put up a half assed fight and go "oh no i've been defeated, ravage me~"
Just depends sometimes I want to fuck a women and other times I just want to sensually suck cock
I feel like I could have a strong romance with a woman, but with a man, I'd at best have a FWB situation. Like fucking would be fun, but I'd be missing out if I settle down with one.
Huh its been a while sense I made one of these threads... Well lets get to the point. I have this friend who is opposed to the lgbt and trans (which i'm the ladder) He's opposed to everything the LGBT stands for and we get along famously (spit take). To give a background he's a conservative christian who is fairly well rounded as for aspects of the world. I could argue all day with him about transgender stuff and he'd have things that would put me off. (He's very convincing.) My goal with him as a friend was to show that we're not all the same (like the tumbler genders) crazy hippie people. Which wasn't anything knew to him. He claimed no trans person could stand him. He was always perplexed how I dealt with his bull. I grew up in a conservative christian family that's not too friendly to the LGBT either. so it wasn't too different from talking to family honestly. The odd thing is how he likes me. He doesn't even understand it. He generally doesn't get along well with anyone honestly. But for some reason whatever that is he started to care about me... like a lot. He generally has contempt with other people around him but somehow I had broke through to him even with my transness, which i should emphasis he generally detest to. He's know plenty of trans people all of them end up hating him. Fast Forward to today we get along famously as aforementioned he puts up with my transness which I often do see him struggling with which i immediately begin to tease him because of it. Its almost a reflex reaction because even though I dont like to admit it (nor do i find it fond of saying the word on 4chan) he often triggers me. Pushing buttons seeing if I'll flop but not today. He stopped doing that. He's actually been quite protective of me. There was one time i went dressed as a girl to the thrift store searching for a skirt to complete my outfit.im not on hrt yet and dont exactly pass. so this lady was following my group of friends around. (continued in the next comment)
i didnt notice her but he did. He told her to leave and told me about it afterwards. I wasnt that shocked seeing as i live in the deep south with red necks everywhere. I was more happy that he stuck up for me. He's been very supportive way more than my parents have been over this (not much compitition really). He sticks up for me. then last week i drove him home from school (we're in college). i happend to be all dressed up that day so i needed to swap clothes before i got home. I had to take off all of my clothes off in front of him cause he wouldnt leave the car even though I hinted at him leaving. He didnt get the message i guess. I hate people seeing my chest. its so hairy and disgusting. i dont want people to remember this body. but i felt comfortable with him next to me for some reason. we just made idle chat while i swapped out my clothes. now to make this clear up to this point i pretty much have shared nearly everything except those few things that could truely hurt me. So we're pretty close. hes a bit more distant than i am but we still make a knot together. So the next week he started acting funny. was antagonizing me on discord a bit. (continued in the next comment)
texting me something about a spiky dildo. It was a bit more mean spirited than usual, kinda hurt. So he doesn't think id go this far did he?! So i texted him how id suck his dick if i got the chance. and he was destroyed after that. Then he finally tells me whats up. Apparantly he had a sex dream with me in the car that night. he said it was the hottest dream he had ever had. Which this destroyed his insides. This is against everything he stands for. I later got him to tell me about his dream what exactly happend. he was ashamed... not about what you would think. he was worried to find out what i would think. How would this change my view of him? In the end I thought the dream was cute. It was kind of adorable in a weird way maybe my minds just wired weird or im just easily taken by flattery. but it was like both of us kind of awkwardly stumbling around the fact that we where attracted to each other. so today i took him home again and my heart was pounding the entire time. I find myself really attracted to him like very attracted. Idk why, i guess because we've become so intimate over the past half a year since i came out. I dont want to destroy him which if i where to have sex with him i believe it would. Ive never really had sex before which makes it triple awkward. and i dont know what to do. (the end)
>>7315502
>>7315509
>>7315519
Sounds like a pretty cute story senpai but I'm pretty sure that this will end in disaster if you go along with it.
Basically you're likely at the point where you think that people have some kind of emotional inner core that's pure and if you just get to the bottom of this person it will all be wonderful. If he's attracted to you and the relationship develops then it will lead you to finding more and more about his views, the way he treats you, the way your political leanings align. You will over time discover that there is nothing at the bottom that is good. He will always fundamentally disagree with a major component of your being, and even if he learns to tell you otherwise then you will just discover the rest of his shitty inner world, every horrible thing he thinks should be supported because it will improve things based on his ideology. That political rift between you two is a very real entity, and you won't be able to ignore its presence, it is very likely to sour your relationship.
Not saying that you shouldn't go for it or anything, because the ending will be awesome. Just try to slowly seduce him as you continue to transitioning and becoming more feminine.
Hey /lgbt/, I've been a lesbian my whole life and have never had any legitimate romantic feelings towards any guys (though I find some guys aesthetically attractive, I've never had the urge to date or fuck them). I've had tons of guy friends, tons of chances to date guys, but I've never felt interested.
However, I met this one guy about a month ago and we've become pretty good friends. We hang out a lot, text, Snapchat, etc. I know I have platonic feelings for him but I'm starting to be confused whether those feelings are just strong platonic feelings or if they're romantic feelings. Whenever he talks about people he's close to (including past girlfriends) I feel a tinge of jealousy. I don't know how to sort my emotions out and address them. Any advice?
sounds pretty gay m8
in all seriousness though, if you have feelings for the guy you have feelings for him. we can't figure that out for you. take some time to think and process.
>>7315238
>Any advice?
To me it seems Most people are actually Bi. You could be like 90% gay.
I thought I was gay, but then fell super hard for this girl once and it took me by surprise.
My advice would be to not limit yourself, Lose the "lesbian" label and just do what feels right. Ride the wave and react however you want.
>>7315544
oh my god i misread this (and was shocked bc it's mostly gay guys and trans girls on here) but yeah you can have an exception no big deal
"If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all"-edition
• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
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>>7315218
>would you date a guy that weighs less than you
that would be a challenge, I guess I'd love to gain some weight with him
>is shorter than you
I-I like that, a lot.
>has a baby face?
not a fan of that tbdesu
>>7315218
i'd be cool w/ it if i was cool w/ u
Lgbt
How many of you ever use the term "partner" to discribe your significant others?
Where I'm from many people say "partner" even non-lgbt people.
>>7314558
I just say wife
I don't. Only cucks are too scared to say BF.
>tfw straight
>tfw 5.5 inch penis and 5ft8
>tfw gave up on women and became a slut for muscle daddies since im /fit/ and what they want.
Only a gay old man will deal with my retarded ass plus they pay for everything.
I'm 5'2". You will find a girlfriend who will like you if you really want to.
>>7314564
I dont want one anymore.
They are psychopathic all of them.
>>7314594
That's unfair. Some guys are crazy, some girls are.
If you want to get fucked by older dudes so be it.
Just make sure your safe.
> So... you've been going on dates with a guy.
> You like him a lot, and things are going well.
> You want him to be your bf eventually.
> You have held hands, kissed, cuddled, traded pics, and gotten a little frisky too.
Do you have sex with him before you ask him out and make it official?
>Do you have sex with him before you ask him out and make it official?
and
>> You have held hands, kissed, cuddled, traded pics, and gotten a little frisky too.
implies you have already asked him out and are on the way to becoming bfs, for me at least.
>>7314442
>>implies you have already asked him out and are on the way to becoming bfs, for me at least.
It does for me too, but from my experience (and my friends's) I'd say lots of guys don't think that way. One minute they like you and "you're all they've been looking for", then someone else comes along and you get tossed aside. I personally don't have sex with someone before we're comitted because it wards off the guys that I've just described, and it keeps me away from being perpetually in the friends with benefits zone.
>>7314316
Who cares, your both degenerates.
>My girlfriend is a cis girl who also has an intersex condition (PCOS)
>I am a non-intersex transgender man
>girlfriend is afraid of me taking testosterone
>had a nice talk about it last night
>explained to her how little and gradual the changes are
>she said she was afraid that I would be more angry and less sensitive
>I explained how people say they feel emotion post-T
>She says that discribes how she experiences emotion.
>We agree it's because of her testosterone
>Her fears are aleviated some because she realizes that how I would become wouldn't be that much different from how she is
>She also says to me that sometimes. Not often. She feels manly instead of girly and presents more masculine on those days.
>we discuss her gender identity probably being a little nonbinary
>I tell her that I love every part of her and love her for her femininity and her masculinity
>feel really good and happy
>love her
4chan isn't your blog
>>7314297
>women have trouble feeling and experiencing emotions
We know.
Love
Does /lgbt/ support Jordan B. Peterson's fight to stop the government from tyrannically forcing people to use the dozens of made-up non-binary pronouns?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04wyGK6k6HE
>>7314199
Why does he think he's so important?
No, I'm not an edgelord
>>7314207
He sees it as a dangerous precedent because it goes beyond merely preventing people from saying certain words (which already interferes with free speech) and actually forces words into people's mouths. The university he works for has through their actions indicated that they and their legal experts do believe that even by saying he won't observe these laws he may already be breaking the law.
The proponents of the legislation argue that it's not a big deal because they will fine you rather than send you to prison. However if you dn't pay the fine, they eventually will send men with guns after you to throw you into prison.
Also keep in mind he is a university professor with a large number of students, he can't possibly keep track of all the pronouns if a number of his students decide to use them. Yet he will be legally obligated to so under the law as written.
He has no bias against gay or trans people so far as I can tell, and no problem calling a trans woman she or a trans man he. He just doesn't believe it should be encoded into the law that you can punish someone for not using words made up by ideologues. He has studied all forms of totalitarianism for many years and knows that they all try to enforce new uses of words to control people, so this is what he's concerned about.
does it feel weird being stealth ?
what do you guys say for period, vagina , or pregnancy related conversations or jokes toward you ?
>>7314052
>tfw 100% transition will never be possible
>tfw ywn chat to other girls about girl things and they all apply to you
>tfw it will never be normal to have been born male and maybe half your friends were but nobody knows unless they say
>>7314052
Keep in mind I'm not 100% passable, but I get chats about period stuff and i've gotten to that age where people start asking me when I'm going to have kids or if I already have them.
>>7314052
I'm not autistic so I can engage in conversations with these topics