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I recently read about the Mortara case, and it seems strange to me that it should be so unknown, despite the understanding that it was a catalyst for the Italian Unification.
In essence:
>1857
>Jewish family in the Papal States employs a local Catholic maid
>said maid secretly baptized one of the sons of the family during a period of grave illness, and would happen to divulge the details to several people
>the rumors ended up reaching the ears of the Holy Office, who considered the child to be Christian; the order is given for the boy to be taken from his family forcefully, and raised a Christian
>massive controversy erupts, most European nations recognize the Papacy for the anachronism it really is
>French Emperor Napoloen III - protector of the Papal States - was so filled with distaste at the Church's role that he began supporting Italian Unification (i.e. and the dismantling of the Papal States)
>the Church refuses to return the child
What I find laughable is how ridiculous the Catholic propaganda was during the Mortara case: the Church alleged that the child, Edgardo Mortara, had immediately accepted the Catholic faith and wished for his family to convert so as to save them for Hell, as well as an account of him learning the entire Catechism of the Church in a few days due to his piety (whereas every other non-Catholic account tells of a crying boy who screamed and yelled to be let back with his family). Sounds like North Korean propaganda in just how absurd it is.
But I think this affair might have given rise to more anti-clerical/anti-Catholic feeling than is assumed.
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>>1696360
Got me interested, bump for you op
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Catholics are good people. They're just insane.
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Fucking saved senpai
Never heard of it until today, but sounds too good to pass off.
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Alright, so the first human to get to the Americas made it roughly 15.000 years ago, right? In the meantime, they created some complex civilizations.
And men came to Eurasia roughly 100.000 years ago.
So is it possible that europeans have had a big civilization a long time ago that's been forgotten or am I spouting bullshit here?
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>>1696134
The first humans ro reach Europe did so 40k years ago, Not 100k you stupid fuck
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>>1696134
Probably not. The paleo siberians who migrated to America had already had 30k years to develop on the eurasian continent.
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>>1696134
>So is it possible that europeans have had a big civilization a long time ago that's been forgotten
no shit
Memes aside, what can /his/ tell me about Kek?
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>>1696110
anything to do with a frog can be traced to
>baal
>storm god
>murdak
etc
anything that blackens the sky
destroys crop
but also brings rain
that also destroys
egyptian mythology (core) comes from the north
>bosnian pyramids date 13kybp , predates giza by 10000 years
greater illyia etc
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>>1696110
He exists.
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Why were his accomplishments so exaggerated?
Why choose him instead of any of the other talented people of the time?
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the guy who wrote the romance was a shufag
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>>1696098
Zhuge Liang may be an excellent millitary strategist, but he is not without flaws. After all, he is rather Machiavellian and doesn't care much for civilians.
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>>1697616
>Zhuge Liang may be an excellent millitary strategist
He literally won just 1 (one) military campaign in his whole life, and that with the opposing army disgregating due to infighting and leader murder before he even arrived. He was definitely not an excellent military strategist, he was just a fucking politician with a gift for civil administration.
>>1696098
>Why were his accomplishments so exaggerated?
Because he literally wrote the history of his own faction and forbid anyone else to do the same, so when people go look for Shu history he's the only source for anything not related to diplomacy and warfare.
>Why choose him instead of any of the other talented people of the time?
Because the author had a strong Shu bias for political reasons and Kongming was the effective ruler of Shu from Xiaoting to his death, Li Yan and Liu Shan notwithstanding.
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What does /his/ think of Calvinism?
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The only Christian denomination worse than Baptism.
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>>1696444
Trips don't lie.
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>>1696444
elaborate
How did you choose your denomination, /his/?
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>>1695994
rationally, so i became a unitarian
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I realised that most of the denominations of the three major Abrahamic religions are equally valid, so decided that the best option would be to side with the one that best represents and furthers my national heritage/culture.
Any "Jew" who does not also believe in God is a traitor to his own people.
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>>1695994
first i killed god then i set myself free
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If you are christian or catholic, how can you study things like philosophy if you can only have (for a lack of a better word) one TRUE master?
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What i'm trying to say is, can you change your philosophy if you're still christian.
Ex: Following and practicing stoicism and being christian.
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reinterpretation
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>>1695950
Being born into some holy lands sky fairy cult doesn't imply you can't think outside the box once in awhile when you are feeling frisky.
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So after discovering the Naturalization Act of 1790, I'm forced to reevaluate everything from the founding of America.
Could anyone shed light on what the founding fathers intended by including the Freedom of Religion in the founding of the country? Or give me possible sources to research to figure out for myself?
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>>1695849
bump?
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>>1695952
dont say it like that. be sure of yourself, like this
>bump
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>>1695952
Well what does freedom of religion have to do with the naturalization act?
Also, it's less harsh than one would think.
Asian immigration was basically nonexistent until the West was settled. Women became citizens by having their husband become a citizen, and blacks were not granted citizenship under normal circumstances because they were brought over as slaves. Quite barbaric now but at the time it was simply the way things were.
Local laws pretty quickly superseded the federal law and there were various ways for blacks and Asians to gain citizenship at the local level once a significant portion of said people's actually became free men.
But yes in the end (well more the beginning) everyone was super fucking racist. Irishmen were considered a different race, and a quite inferior one, to Englishmen. And don't even get me started on how the French and Germanics saw each other.
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post historical figures with badass names
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It really was a great war for names.
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>>1695841
This triggers me, pls post Herodotus instead
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Was Germany during WW2 actually led by Nazis?
Were Germans the first victims of Nazis?
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>>1695582
No and Yes.
The Nazis help very much the Germans.Help the economy,the army,etc.
But if you take into consideration that Hitler ordered,so he turned prime minister,that all children with mental disabilities and disabled were dead.Yes they were victims too.
.Help the economy,the army.
But if you take into consideration that Hitler ordered , so he turned prime minister that all children with mental disabilities and disabled were killed.Yes they were victims too.
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>>1695698
>Help the economy
He actually didnt - this is a misnomer.
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>>1695582
>Was Germany during WW2 actually led by Nazis?
Is this a reatard post?
What do you think OP? Hitler possessed in 1939 almost absolute power, all regions in Germany were administrated by Nazi gauleiters, Himler controlled the SS and the secret police, Goering the airforce, Goebells the propaganda etc.
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Why is he not remembered at all? Despite being a great strategist and tactician even Swedes know little about him.
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>>1695562
Because he was gay.
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>>1695562
Because the swedish empire, apart from the 30 years war, was irrelevant for western europe.
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>>1695562
well he's no Gustavus Adolphus
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Was Hitler a psychopath or just a crazy man?
Psychologists.Help me.
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>>1695360
1. NEITHER.
2. "CRAZY" DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING CONCRETE.
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>>1695364
Neither?!
So what he was?Just a nationalist?!
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>>1695360
He was a shitty artist.
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Can someone tell me what this deer symbol represents? The reason I ask is because I have seen the non-political metal band Agalloch use this exact symbol before.
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Jäger
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An example of an Agalloch shirt which has the symbol.
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one of those reminds me of the euro
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Was the failures and eventual reforms of the British Army during and after the Boer war the cause of its effectiveness during WW1?
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>British army
>Effective
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>>1695189
Tbh we just stopped wearing bright red uniforms in the desert lad.
That helped a lot.
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>>1695213
During ww1 the British were arguably the second most effective army after Germany
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How much of an impact did Hitlers drive to build wonder weapons have on the loss of Germany in WW2?
Could his scientists have produced significantly better armaments if they weren't wasting time and money on things like the Maus or Ratte?
I apologise if you've seen this thread before.
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>>1695020
>How much of an impact did Hitlers drive to build wonder weapons have on the loss of Germany in WW2?
Very little because Albert Speer was smart enough to cancel most of his bullshit.
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>>1695020
They actually invented many usefull wonder-waffe like jets, ballistic rockets, medium calibre rifle, type XXI. They were also on the right track with helicopters.
Thing is it is not so easy to judge which ones have potential.
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