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How could the cold war have been prevented?

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Operation Unthinkable succeeding?

Operation Barbarossa succeeding?

Japan attacking russia from the East maybe?
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It started as soon as WWII was over, so it couldn't have been prevented unless one side immediately stabbed the other in the back after Germany fell.

Delving into alt-distory
China and the USSR possibly could've had a war during the Sino-Soviet split. The soviets could've nuked China before china developed their own nuclear weapons, and NATO would've jumped in as an excuse to wipe the soviets off the map. Would've been even more convenient if the soviets used part of their arsenal on China, meaning less retaliatory strikes on europe/us.

It would've shortened the cold war, not exactly prevent it though.
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>>1804283
Honestly, it couldn't have. The only possible option that doesn't massively alter the history books (e.g. nazis winning or something) is Operation Unthinkable succeeding and thus preventing USSR from developing the nuke.

But Operation Unthinkable succeeding is honestly about as likely as a nazi germany winning alt-history scenario.

What does /his/ think of this movie?
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Product of it's time

Like the Quran
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>>1804282
American slavery is one of the most overdone historical movies in hollywood. Almost every one is shit.
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>>1804288
Are there any good ones?

would the roman empire have lasted longer if diocletian never divided it between the east and west?
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No

And considering the Roman Empire lasted for another thousand years, I'd say Diocletian did a pretty good job.
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>>1804277
>lasted 1100 more years because of the split
>could it have lasted longer united

it may have been unintentional, but the splitting the Empire was akin to removing a parasite for the Eastern Half, which had the wealth of Egypt, Greece, and the Levant be used to garrison and develop the comparatively rural Gaul, Iberia and Britannia.

The Western Empire's collapse was exacerbated by the loss of the eastern provinces, with only Italia and North Africa being real money-makers in Western possession having to defend the borders at the Rhine and Danube.

While the split doomed the West, it was a godsend for the East, which was now able to use the richest provinces of the Empire to defend itself against Persia, the only real threat in the area until the rise of Islam.
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>>1804290
>Eastern
>Roman
>Empire

Can somebody recommend me some introductory books on economics?
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This should go on /biz/ or /lit/
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Das Kapital
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>>1804255
I didn't want to go to /biz/ because they're gross and my pursuit is knowledge rather than money.

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What's the /his/tory of Newfoundland?
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It was new land that they found.
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Quebecois clay desu.
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>>1804113
Just watch me

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Theoretically, if you wanted to raise a GREAT MAN as understood in the historical context of a great mover and changer of events, how would you do it? are there any commonalities in the childhoods of great men?
Let's be clear here, I'm not asking how you would raise someone who's actually a well-rounded, successful person. I'm not even asking how to raise a genius. I'd even argue that most dictators, staggeringly successful warlords and so on tend to be quite unstable.
Also it's just hypothetical so don't get too pissy.
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Great men become great by themselves.
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>>1804011
source?
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>living your dreams through your child
you are no better than those fucking fashion show moms

I am sure your child will be a GREAT MAN if you go to the local zoo and have him fight the lion with a butterknife

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Why do people say Khruschev is a revisionist?

What did he do wrong?
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>>1803967

Being a revisionist isn't a bad thing.
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>any advocate of doctrines, theories, or practices that depart from established authority or doctrine.

Gee, Anon. IDK, maybe something with Stalinism?
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>>1803987
How's Stalin not a revisionist too?

>Athenians will defend this bitch

Horrible person and horrible goddess
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>female deity
>female deity of wisdon
How fucking drunk on wine do you have to get to even come up with something as ludicrous as that?
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>>1803930

Literal virgin waifu of maximum proportions.
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>>1803930

I only know about the story where she turns a girl into a spider for being a bitch.

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So ive read quite a bit about free will and still cant wrap my head around it. Ive read all the greeks, a lot of theology and some phenomenology and I cant put any meaning on the concept of human agency as metaphysically independent.
So /his/, how can any event (such as an individual taking a decision) be anything else than A) Issued from prior event exterior to the individual
B) somehow not caused by any prior event, both cases not being describably as free? Seems to me freedom can only be defined in relation to the thing one is free from, and therefore cant be used in any absolute sense.

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Those prior events can be events in my consciousness, so based on how just something makes me feel, it's pure image in my consciousness and only that, I can make a decision based on this event, and so free will is not so much outside of determinations but that which determines itself, through itself.
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>>1803913
I really liked the comment in a thread yesterday that went something like.
>People would rather believe a comfortable lie than an uncomfortable truth.
That's free will. Which one will you choose.
Sorry I suck at explaining myself on the internet
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>>1803926
>le free will is an illusion xP

you are your own will, there's nothing secretly behind your actions but yourself, you are as embedded in the causal chain as a stone, but that causal chain is a lot less restrictive than determinists would have you believe because absolutely everything about you - your sense of self and freedom - is sourced in this chain, and so there's no magical deterministic force outside of yourself keeping you in your rut, you are the universe and the universe is you

In guys opinion,who was worst?Himmler or Goebbels?

Ok,I know that the two we´re monsters.But,who was the true psychopath?
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>>1803888
As much as I hate the Nazis, it's unfair to see them as merely monsters or psychopaths. Himmler in particular can be argued to be a dutiful man who sought to purge his country of enemies. This vision was completely polluted of course.

Goebbels having his whole family committing suicide always sends chills down my spine, so perhaps the edge is given to him. Then again Himmler probably would have done the same thing.
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Goebbels

Volkssturm was a mistake
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>>1803888
Himmler was a neopagan psychotic fuckwad with constant genocidal fantasies. Goebbels was just trying to redpill people about the Jews and held really good speeches.

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Did the general population give a shit about politics back in ancient times? Seems like the modern era is the era where the general people are most actively involved in politics, reading up on political drama and forming political opinions.

Did the general population care if Julius Caesar was assassinated or if Rome became an empire? Or was it all a sport to them, something that entertained them?
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dude i don't even know how to read lmao, let alone keep track of royalty, although I can probably tell you who the current ruler is though

t. peasant
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>>1803872
Literacy didn't really matter.

That's what tribune of the plebs were for.
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>>1803857
No. Popular politics as we think of it wasn't possible before the invention of printing. the ancient world had a much smaller population, and its democracies were limited to a certain privileged group within each city. The great majority of the population either lived from the land outside the cities,where they couldnt even hear about whats going on, or they were slaves and women and werent allowed to participate. The cosmopolitan political life we hear about from the greeks and romans was not the situation of the majority as it is in a modern democractic society.

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What went so gloriously right?
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>>1803766
>collapses
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>>1803766
but who was phone?
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>>1803766
Its collapse

>*blocks your path*
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>>1803697
*steps over you*
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>>1803697
>he walks on the road

Have fun paying your road tax, normicus barbaricus.
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>>1803697
*Liberates your village*

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How badly did the 60s ruin your country?

US, pretty much JUST
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>>1803667

This is an 18+ website.
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>>1803670

Really fixes the errors of the transcript...
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>>1803670

Really fixes the errors of the transcript...

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What do you believe led to the development of Witch-hunting in the 16th-17th centuries? Personally I think it was the Reformation bringing the diabolical conspiracy of Devil-worship to unprecedented levels so as to provoke a severe Christian reaction.
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>>1803632
Life was scary for setters in New England the new world was dark and unknown added with fear of India attacks they were extremely paranoid. Protestantism was the only thing that made them feel safe, anything that strived little away from it was seen as dangers and so treated as such.
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>>1803691
>Catholics settle in the new world.
>Burn no witches.
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>>1803632

A lot of it had to do with misogyny. Men were rarely accused of being witches (John Proctor being the most notable exception thanks to The Crucible). And women accused of being witches were usually older women who were seen as useless and they were not valued in society. Typically these were women who had lived long enough that they had outlived their husbands and so they were head of household, and the idea of a woman being in charge of anything was a scary concept for puritans. Life in the New World was tough and people looked for scape-goats. Crops failed? Blame the ugly old lady down the street.

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