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Alright /his/, is it likely that there were advanced civilizations before Sumeria? And I mean Rome-tier civilizations- maybe even greater. There's so many writings of long lost "golden age" type kingdoms afterall.
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>>2413749
Indus River Valley?
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Yeah, it's almost like humans long for the past they've never experienced in life despite having no rationality behind it other than rose tinted glasses.
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I doubt everything about this, but bampfing for interest anyway.
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What caused the end of Islamic intellectualism and achievement? Was it the mongols? Geopolitics? What happened?
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I've heard it said that much of the achievements were by Persian-Muslims.. If this is so, then happened to the Iranians then? How did they regress?
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>>2410333
Smoking hash destroyed Islamic civilization.
This is why it's vital that we ban this filth.
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mongols, but before that the islamic world was fracturing
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why can't westerners achieve balance between modernity and tradition?
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>>2409269
Because tradition is for faggots.
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Because the J. hijacked the West
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>>2409269
That is something the Japs perfected early on, whereas our modern culture has basically become us.
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We need an alternate history Europe map
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>>2408872
That map is fucking shit and so is this thread.
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>>2408872
>Europe in 2022
>Forgets that russia has crimea.
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>>2408872
>UK controls Northern Ireland
>Karelia doesn't belong to Finland
>Crimea owned by Ukraine
>the fucking balkans
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History YLYL and more things like pic related.
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The normies that make these now call them "memes", son
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>>2407264
Everyone knows it was raining, armored Calvary got bogged down in the mud, fell down, archers ran up with daggers and knifed them frenchies in the throat.
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>>2407264
I'll contribute
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do you guys have a recommended reading list? sort of like /lit/?
i can't trust reddit's history list because i trusted their literature list and wasted 2 years reading shit like chuck palahniuk and ready player one. 4chan did the opposite.
so do you guys have any non-pleb tier history books? i don't really know where to look.
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The first step to being a scholar is to stop taking advice from websites like reddit and 4chan.
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>>2421797
well im not really trying to be a scholar.
but as far as reading goes, /lit/ has done nothing but progressed me further. was hoping /his/ would do some of that
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>>2421776
fuck it ill just read wikipedia and shit/
thanks anyways
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What are some resources to learn about the Roman Republic and Empire? I feel like reading wikipedia articles isn't going to give me enough depth for such a massive topic. Are there any youtubers who give good material?
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History of Rome Podcast, friend Anon. It's easy to understand, fairly in depth, and gives context to a lot of things.
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>>2421330
Seconded
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Gibbons
>inb4 butthurt christard
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I want to do more than lurk here, read books or watch documentaries to learn history. Are there some ways to learn on your own through certain steps or project-based learning?
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1. Come up with discussion questions to ask yourself
2. Come up with essays to write about
3. If you're too lazy to do either of those, take a class at a community college
4. Make youtube videos or articles on a blog where you talk about history, I often find the best way to learn for me is to teach others
5. Have others ask you questions and come up with answers for them, don't just respond but use actual evidence, primary or secondary sources
6. Read essays from historians. Modern history books and essays are far more valuable than reading primary sources like Herodotus to be quite honest.
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Listen to podcast my favorite is history you Rome by mike duncan
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The History Of Rome - Podcast By Mike Duncan: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmhKTejvqnoOrQOcTY-pxN00BOZTGSWc3
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anyone else feel that CIV2 is incredibly /his/core? There's a ton of historical re-creation scenarios for this game, and the basic mechanics are incredibly intuitive. None of the stupid nationality-specific faggotry of later titles either
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>>2421113
>you will never play civ for first time again
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>it's another /his/torians complain games are made for those who play them
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Does having a large military promote peace or does it just lead to more war? Alternatively, has there ever been a time when a country engaged in a massive military build-up and it did not lead to a war?
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>Alternatively, has there ever been a time when a country engaged in a massive military build-up and it did not lead to a war
I mean...the cold war.
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>>2421078
I'd say the greatest deterrence factor right now would be nukes.
>has there ever been a time when a country engaged in a massive military build-up and it did not lead to a war?
Soviet Union to the point of [COLLAPSE]
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>>2421078
I mean, it depends very much on your definitions of peace. The Romans used a big military to keep the peace, but for them keeping the peace was massacring rebels.
As for the second point, you could argue the entire cold war was a military buildup that left generations of hawks with blue balls.
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Could the United States have taken more territory in Latin/Central America? For instance, Ulysses S. Grant annexing Santo Domingo in 1871, or potentially taking colonies in Central America?
If so, why didn't America seize these opportunities? (inb4 Spanish-American War)
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>>2421031
There's more to lose than gain.
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>>2421062
how so
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>>2421031
America took Haiti though for like 19 years?
Why did the Israelis win the War of Independence against odds?
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>>2421006
Arab Incompetence and foreign funding.
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>>2421006
They are gods chosen people silly goy
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They stole all the good goyim soldier genetics by employing Jewish bioweapons.
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Besides winning you meme bucks and leddit upboats, is there any purpose to haplogroups?
>can't tie it to any ancient civilizations
>no impact on genetics
Just a vague world distribution that's hardly meaningful. What's the point?
>paternally j2b2
>maternally b2b
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>can't tie it to any ancient civilizations
Looks like the Assyrian Empire or Mittani imo
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>>2421397
>Mitanni
so it display the genetics of the proud Kurdish people
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>>2421420
Hanigalblat was not a Persian state you cretin.
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Hey guys, I had a quick question. I keep reading and hearing contradictory things with respect to the preservation of Classic works by the Muslims and Christian Monks.
Version 1: The monks did nothing to preserve classic texts; or alternatively they nefariously kept them hidden. The Muslims were the ones who kept them and they reintroduced it to Europe.
Version 2: The monks were bro-tier and were the only ones in Europe who preserved the texts. Its them that deserve the credit.
I'm assuming the truth is somewhere in the middle?
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And this is throughout the period of the Middle Ages? Islamic Golden Age was 8-13th centuries. Or am I conflating different things?
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>>2420855
Monks preserved some texts and muslims preserved others. We had to take the muslim ones by force.
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>>2420855
It was an Arabic thing to translate greek works, usually for stately gain, it was a personal things some monks did.
So there is that. The monks also translated too Latin, a now dead language we really have no idea how it actually works.
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>pleb view: 'Christianity held back science during the Middle Ages'
>/his/ wiki historians: 'uhhhh no XD the Middle Ages had no stagnancy and nothing was the churches fault'
>the truth: pretty much all intellectual thought completely came to a halt during this time period, with Aquanus, Augustine, etc. simply applying Platonic metaphysics further into Christian theology, likewise other forms of science completely dropped off the face of the earth due to persecution
>pleb view: 'the civil war was due to slavery'
>/his/ wiki historian: 'NO it was due to states rights and southern culture IDIOT'
>the truth: it was about the South's rights to own slaves and their culture of slavery
How does it feel to be more wrong than plebs /his/?
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>>2420715
>Aquanus
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>there are people who don't distinguish between the early middle ages and the High Middle Ages
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>>2420795
Aquinas whatev