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Why was civilization basically invented by middle easterners? Why have the mayority of europeans near eastern DNA? Why is the latin and greek alphabet ultimately derived from the phoenician one? Why do europeans use middle eastern time measurements? Why was agriculture introduced to europe from the middle east? Why did the latins and greeks feel closer to MENA than to other europeans?Why is Aviccena, a Persian, considered the father of modern medicine? What about modern historiography and sociology?
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>>2538883
>let's circle jerk and meme about snowniggers and mud slimes tee-heee guys

op, you are a retard
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Because Meds are the master race obviously. There were two migration waves that shaped Mediterranean Euro genetics the most: an early one from Anatolia during the Neolithic that brought agriculture to the continent and a later one during the Copper Age that brought metallurgy. The latter one is more obscure and less studied, but West Asian admixture in the Balkans and Italy (haplo J2) has a strong correlation with the diffusion of metallurgy. The Indo-Europeans were savages in comparison when they came. Their only contributions were domesticated horses, chariots and their language and religion. Europe already had advanced civilizations such as the Minoans, Nuragics and Etruscans before the Indo-European migrations. The Latins were literally tribalistic niggers living in mudhuts before they got civilized by the non-Indo-European Etruscans.
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>>2538883
Civilization was developed at different points in the world, not just the ME. Outside of early influence, Europe owes almost nothing to the Middle East since Euros got almost everything from Greco-Roman civilization.

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Will a Christian that kills himself go to heaven?
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I think it's considered a sin in Catholicism. Not sure about Orthodox or Protestants.

Seems shit tho for god to be like "hey remember how miserable you were when alive and how it drove you to kill yourself? Well since you killed yourself, yer gonna just keep bein miserable plus some fire stuff added in for good measure. For eternity."
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>>2538517
Tru
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>>2538517
Protestants allow anything these days. At some point they all said fuck it anything goes

If God hates gay people, why did he create them? Whether they are born with it or it's a mental illness, he could have just eliminated it altogether because it's completely pointless
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>>2538080
Spoiler: It's actually just the Christians that hate Gay people. Christians hate everyone who isn't them, as you've probably noticed.
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>>2538087
>Christians that just hate gay people
>Ignoring Muslims
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>>2538087
how brave of you to leave out orthodox jews and muslims. yes go for the christians, edgelord

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ITT: We discuss scandinavian history
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/thread
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Suomi Finland Perkele! :D
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>>2537632

> All the German nations are reunited, also The Netherlands and Belgium (I'm Dutch), the language should be a mixture of German and Dutch. Scandinavia reunited with a scandinavian mix language, etc. etc.
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it's shit, balkanize Germany
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>>2537555
fuck the balkans
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>>2537547
>that disgusting blob instead of Poland
Dude, if you want to restore Rzeczpospolita it needs Lithuania and Baltic port (read: Gdansk) much more than Eastern Belarus and Ukraine which are rightful Russian clay anyway.
>independent Moldova

You know for being a history board we don't talk about the big killers, diseases, that often.
Like for example smallpox which killed approximately 200 million+ people just the last century and may have killed one third of the Roman empire's population in the third century (if not the measles)
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The last outbreak of smallpox in Europe was in Yugoslavia in 1972.
The deadly disease was viewed as eradicated in the first and second worlds, and the W.H.O. had been fighting it in the third world.
Patient zero, an Albanian Muslim from Kosovo by the name of Ibrahim Hoti, was infected in Saudi Arabia as he was making the Hajj, he recovered because he was vaccinated.
People who were in contact with him were infected, that's true.
However none of his 11 children were infected (let's not talk about the demographics of Kosovo Albanians, that's another topic, and i'm tired of it), which lead some epidemiologists to believe it was a case of biological warfare, but that's in the realm of conspiracy theory, and there doesn't seem to be a clear culprit (neither USA nor USSR).

He infected Latif Mumdžić, who sought medical help, but the local doctors couldn't diagnose him and sent him to Belgrade (but to Novi Pazar and Cacak before that).
At first the doctors misdiagnosed him with an allergic reaction to penicillin, soon other symptoms appeared.
35 people at the hospital were infected, 9 of whom were doctors (8 of whom died).
Simultaneously ~140 cases of smallpox were reported in Kosovo.
Strict quarantines were established and mass vaccinations ensued. People were getting vaccinated in hospitals, in schools, in factories, in the streets and in the fields (my mom told me specifically that she was vaccinated at school).

The W.H.O praised the Yugoslav regime for quick and decisive (read, brutal and panicked) action, which quickly contained the disease.

There is a great movie from 1982 based on this event (of course, it's not a documentary, it's an epidemic movie and it takes creative liberties). The writer/director obviously knew a lot about the danger of evolving diseases, and he masterfully critiqued communism (and the Yugoslav government), not only through the actions of the government in the movie, but comparing it to the very disease.
Variola Vera
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>>2537569
Variola Vera is available on the pirate bay (can't miss it it's the only one). The English subtitles are not that great, but they're usable.
Here's the intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4ZkhnDEpYc
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ww3 is going to be terrifying

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I'd like to talk about the Troubles.

These threads often devolve into people definitely stating things with and reducing everyone else's opinions to nothing for no reason.

I looked up as much publically available information as I could-in terms of who killed who, why, when, dates of events and who was behind them, etc.

The conclusion I've reached is that while the pro british people seemed to initiate the conflict/were the ones who first practiced violence, neither side can argue to be the "good" side

While I guess the nationalists had a just cause, they didn't seem to get on better than the pro british guys.

The British army seemed to make a right mess of it too.

Its all a very muddy conclusion but people seem to harp on about the Irish being the terrorists when the facts state that if you take out british soldiers-the official combatant enemy-they weren't that different from the pro british guys.

What's the deal?
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>>2537207
If someone enters your house and proclaims it's his - you have the right to use every means to dispose of him.
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>>2537236
What? Is this a metaphor for british being in Ireland?
Northern Ireland as a country made sense considering the occupants, it just looks to me like it wasn't handled very well.
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>>2537207
>drunkards attack eachother
>native Irish feel oppressed
>ask for British to do more
>British send in army to mediate
>Irish see this as one step from being genocides and chimpout
That's your TL DR, reminder not to trust Irish Americans for funding IRA which bombed war memorials for those native Irish who CHOSE to fight for the queen

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>Let me conquer the Soviet Union, a mortal danger to every western country, while it's still weak. You guys can keep your empires and no hard feelings about that last war.

>*autistic screeching*
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>>2536194
>what do you mean you don't believe me?
>you're saying it's because I've broken all the treaties I've signed with you guys in the past? What's that got to do with anything?
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>Maybe Versailles was a bit harsh, tee-bee-haitch we'd like to to contain the Bolshies
>Sure, you can re-arm
>Sure you can remilitarize the Rhineland
>Sure, you can annex Austria
>Okay, you can annex the Sudetenland, but don't annex the rest
>Okay, you annexed the rest. Bit rude, cunt.
>Don't invade Poland, or there's going to be war!
>Okay, you invaded Poland, we're going to count to three...

>*autistic screeching*
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>>2536194
>I'll also exterminate all the Jews and Slavs from Europe

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Hey guys, I'm interested in the development of trade centers throughout the world. What caused a city to become an important center of trade? I understand sitting on an important spot on a trade route would allow a local economy to grow, but what caused a major trade route to form in the first place? Why did Venice become a major trade city and not, say, Sicily? How did these major cities develop in the ancient era? Anything and everything you guys can tell me would be very helpful, thanks in advance.
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>>2536121

Look at a map. Venice gives you easy access to the Po Valley and the major passes through Alps, therefore the rest of Europe, whereas Sicilian ports just give you access to Sicily
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>>2536144
Okay, so is geography the only determining factor? Sicily was just an example, but any other city in any other place. Are there not political or resource limitations/encouragements? Are there not other cities near Venice that could have taken its role given different historical conditions? And if so, what would those conditions have been?
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>>2536181
>Are there not other cities near Venice that could have taken its role given different historical conditions?
Define "near" Venice. The city itself was basically the chosen capital of a pre-existing coalition of the neighbouring cities who chose to keep aloof of the barbarian shitflinging contests, so it's not like anywhere else on the coastline was available unless you move as far as Trieste northward or Rimini southward. Rimini is nowhere near as well connected to northern Italy and the alpine passes, Trieste is pretty much not even in Italy at all geographically. The more you move to the south, the least connected you are to continental Europe, and there's no real moving to the north since the Venetian Lagoon and the Gulf of Trieste are the two best harbours in the Adriatic, and the only one more northern (Grado) was conquered by Venice pretty early on.

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bluepilled history

Macedonians have nothing to do with Alexander The Great
Bulgarians have nothing to do with Bulgars
Hungarians have nothing to do with Huns
Romanians have nothing to do with Dacians
Albanians have nothing to do with Illyrians
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>>2536097
>Albanians have nothing to do with Illyrians
isn't their language pretty obscure and derived from what was once illyrian?
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Most of that is true. Beyond some genetic heritage thanks to occupying same area, none of those modern people share any cultural continuity with those ancient onces, some have minimal linguistic connections, but overall the mentionned modern and ancient peoples do not represent one people.

Most of these connections either derive from hardly factual medieval legends (which were used to strengthen the claim of the ruling DYNASTY and nobles, not the common pleb) or 19. century nationalist awakenings root-searching. And they thought the best way to form a common national identity is to identify ancient, venerable ancestors one can be proud to call forefathers.

Honestly beyond remnants of romanticism and far right wanking, you won't find any continous ethnic consciousness.
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the real blue pill is to assume that all these groups are just generalized concepts and that nothing exists in a vacuum independently of each other.

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What is his endgame?
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>>2534208

1. To take as many people down with him as possible.
2. He thinks he knows one of God's weaknesses and plans to exploit it at the Battle of Armageddon.
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>>2534208
Being a whiny bitch
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god

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Why has sub-saharan africa never created any culture or civilization of great value?
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>>2533286
>what is ancient egypt
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>>2533291
>Why has SUB-SAHARAN africa never created any culture or civilization of great value?
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>>2533295
You do realize half of Ancient Egypt and coincidentally the part with the most pyramids was under the Sahara right?

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ITT: times the good guys won
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Let's talk about something else than religion for fuck sake.

Without taking the events of Lenin and leftist events after Marx's death, isn't what Marx described basically America today?

Marx goes on to describe a corporatocracy where all the capital of a nation gradually becomes concentrated at the top, where small farmers become replaced by huge corporate farms and craftsmen are replaced by factory-supplied chain-stores. In his scenario, there is a shrinking middle class, an exploited lower class forced to sell their productive potential for a living and the Bourgeoisie: the upper class who own all the capital and means of production and use this to sway a "representative" government to change legislation to better their bottom line.


communist discord I just made in addition to this: https://discord.gg/YWKzYF3
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>>2543162
Marx simply expanded on Hegelian philosophy - can we move on. Fuck its British fucking Empiricism that rules the fucking world today - lets sink that fucking island and all the mechanistic bullshit that came from it. Including Hegel along with Marx.
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>>2543180
everything after Scholasticism was a mistake.
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>>2543162
No, this must become a religion thread.

RAPTURE THIS ROSH HASHANAH!

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heres another coin i found and im trying to figure out what it is
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with highlighted details
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backside which is pretty much unrecognizable
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>>2542889
It's Byzantine, possibly 6th C.

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