Why was civilization basically invented by middle easterners?

>>2538883
>let's circle jerk and meme about snowniggers and mud slimes tee-heee guys

op, you are a retard

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Because Meds are the master race obviously. There were two migration waves that shaped Mediterranean Euro genetics the most: an early one from Anatolia during the Neolithic that brought agriculture to the continent and a later one during the Copper Age that brought metallurgy. The latter one is more obscure and less studied, but West Asian admixture in the Balkans and Italy (haplo J2) has a strong correlation with the diffusion of metallurgy. The Indo-Europeans were savages in comparison when they came. Their only contributions were domesticated horses, chariots and their language and religion. Europe already had advanced civilizations such as the Minoans, Nuragics and Etruscans before the Indo-European migrations. The Latins were literally tribalistic niggers living in mudhuts before they got civilized by the non-Indo-European Etruscans.

>>2538883
Civilization was developed at different points in the world, not just the ME. Outside of early influence, Europe owes almost nothing to the Middle East since Euros got almost everything from Greco-Roman civilization.

>>2538971
And greco-roman civilization got almost everything from the middle east. Civilization also spread from the middle east to europe. The other points in human history were fairly isolated.

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>>2538971
>Europe owes almost nothing to the Middle East since Euros got almost everything from Greco-Roman civilization

The same guys who said Middle Easterners and North Africans were intelligent and civilized and snowniggers were dumb violent barbarians? Yeah...

>>2538883
You're fuking stupid. Anyone of these questions could have made for a good thread topic on their own so why did you shove them all on one plate like trying to cram 10 pounds of shit into a 1 pound bag. Ya fuking dumass.

>>2539038
You can answer them one by one .

Because of geography. Did you look at the map?

>>2539094
Not an argument. It could gad been the other way around

>>2538960
This

>>2538892
What?

Because Noah's ark landed in Ararat, modern-day Turkey.

The first urban settlements was in Mesopotamia, Babylon.

>>2538892
I was expecting /his to be made up of scholarly and well mediated debate since /pol exists for all these edgy politically incorrect posts, but /his seems more like what /pol should be desu.

>>2539846
Epic.

>>2538883
>Why was civilization basically invented by middle easterners?
the fertile crescent was one of the most ideal locations in the entire world to start agriculture and civilization
>Why have the mayority of europeans near eastern DNA?
because your unsourced picture says so
>Why is the latin and greek alphabet ultimately derived from the phoenician one?
because the phoenicians were onto something good with a nice, standardized alphabet
>Why do europeans use middle eastern time measurements?
because their system was a good idea to begin with
>Why was agriculture introduced to europe from the middle east?
because the soil and climate was better for farming
>Why did the latins and greeks feel closer to MENA than to other europeans?
they were actually frequently in contact and traded with the remnants of said civilizations while the bulk of europe was far away behind mountains and thick forests
>Why is Aviccena, a Persian, considered the father of modern medicine?
he had access to a lot of preserved greek texts

>>2538960
That map isn't accurate, copper was extracted and worked in Sardinia since the early 4th millenium bc

>>2538883
why not?

>>2538883
MENA is white it was all an exchange between similiar people

China in the Bronze Age had developed a civilization administered by a powerful bureaucracy through the use of writing independent of the Middle Eastern civilizations.

Middle Easterners have more neurotic personalities.
Neuroticism drives progress but only under certain conditions.

If you think about all the constructor cultures whether in Egypt or Stonehenge, what they did wasn't logical at all. They were putting massive amounts of resources in something useless.
If it was one person doing it, it could be dismissed as autism but it was entire ethnicities working together to create useless monuments.

>>2538883
It seems that way becuse the roman empire s well as catholicism wiped out most of native civilizations on 3 continents. Middle East barely contains any traces of civilization these days.

>>2539867
You must be new.

Im under the impression tha modern euros basically derive their entire heritage from the middle east/anatolia and the russian steppes region, ie theyre hardly actual europeans

>>2540733
people have always been moving in and out so im not sure european even means anything other than you just livw live on that peninsula. my only interest in this is that fact that im from spain where the original modern western euros lived, but meh

>>2540733

Russian steppe folks still had Euro DNA of an eastern type, as they were descendants native Eastern European males who intermarried with Caucasus women(who themselves had some genetic components related to Europeans).

It doesn't matter that the old mesolithic natives of Western Europe didn't contribute much since they were weaklings who couldn't get anything done by themselves.
They didn't deserve Europe so the betters took it and thus deserve it.

>>2540391
That makes no sense what so ever

>>2540733
Pretty much this

Whites love to crow about how they invented everythig, when in reality they just stole everything from the Middle East.

"middle easterners" is about as precise term as "asians".

Most of the shit you mention comes from ancient Mesopotamia, which has nothing to do with the later sandnigges that nigged the region up with their moon religion.

>Why is Aviccena, a Persian, considered the father of modern medicine?
thats not how you write pascal or semmelweiss.
>What about modern historiography and sociology?
marx, weber, durkheim.

>>2543523
t. shitskin

>>2543596
t. skincancer

Because the Middle East was settled much earlier and had a much more favourable climate than Europe.
Also ancient civilizations constantly copied each others advances and since the first great civilizations appered in the middle eastern area a lot can be traced back to them.

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Isn't it amazing how environment as a huge factor in civilization always gets denied in Africa in order to say that sub-Saharans are dumb, but somehow this same logic is never applied to Middle-easterners and their European cousins. Why couldn't Europeans build civilizations and societies without Middle-Eastern farmers immigrating and subjugating them? All because of environment somehow, despite the fact that Europe is far more fertile and suitable to agriculture. Why couldn't the Europeans domesticate sheep, goats, and cows and start pastoralism, but Middle-Eastern people did? All environment and totally not intelligence related! Why is it, that not one blue eyed, blonde haired European is named or recorded by 1000 BCE, yet thousands of people from modern-day Iraq alone are. How come Mesopotamia, Levant, Egypt, Iran, Indus Valley were all peopled and founded by Middle-eastern people and were the only civilizations for much of their time period? Even the earliest "European" civilizations, were founded by Middle-easterners: Nuragic, Minoan, Etruscan, etc.

It gets even better with ideas of the Middle-East, North Africa, and Central Asia all being white. Yes, somehow white people simultaneously built and conquered those civilizations, but somehow still lived in mudhuts and dysentery in their indigenous land.

>>2540733
This is only true in terms of Y-DNA from Central Asian pastoralists and Mesopotamian/Levant agriculturists. Majority of European DNA, especially mtDNA, is native Mesolithic stock, hence blonde hair and blue eyes.

>>2545344
European neolithic farmers trace their heritage only from Anatolian ones, Who were genetically very different from the Levantine ones, Who were in turn different from the Mesopotamian ones

>>2545389
The Near East became very similar genetically during the Copper Age. Mesopotamians cucked everyone with their superior technology.

>>2545943

>Mesopotamians

More like Semitic and Caucasus tribes

It was mostly their aggressive genetics responsible for the homogenization. Copper is shit anyway and very easy to adopt.

Srebrenica was just gene expression by Middle Eastern Serbs.

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>>2545974
Caucasus is quite distant from the Near East. Copper Age Anatolians cluster close to the Near East and South Europe. There was a massive genetic shift there.

>>2546010

Yes, shift towards the Caucasus and also maybe Bedouins a bit.
You can see it yourself by drawing a line.

Civilized Mesopotamians didn't do anything. It was all barbarian tribes looking for villages to destroy. These barbarians themselves would get smashed by the Hittites changing the genetic pool of Anatolia even further.

the only area where muslims hold innovative command is mass scale rape and barbarity

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>>2546027
>Civilized Mesopotamians

*Ahem*

Have you ever read anything about Assyria? You can be civilized and warlike at the same time.

>>2546049

Assyrians were a Semitic people and thus unrelated to the CHG at least originally originally. Modern day Semites are shifted towards CHG although to a lesser degree than more eastern and northern ME people.

Ethiopians don't carry CHG type of DNA, only ENF. Sardinians are a working proxy for their Afro-Asiatic ancestry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians

These guys weren't Semitic or Mesopotamian.

>>2546061
How do you explain modern people from the Caucasus being distant from the Copper Age Anatolians?

>>2546071

Only that that matters that the copper age Anatolian is on a line from EN Anatolian and CHG.
Modern day Caucasians are irrelevant. Most of them have Indo-European or Turkic admixture which causes a shift away from the original CHG.

>>2546071
>>2546061

The fuck happened during the copper age in Anatolia?

>>2546078
The farmers from there that served as a vector to bring agriculture into Europe earlier on seem to have gotten genocided by someone.

>>2546078

>The Hattians spoke Hattic, a non-Indo-European language of uncertain affiliation. Hattic is now believed by some scholars to be related to the Northwest Caucasian language group.

Of course it wasn't just them. Probably numerous tribes all looking for easier targets when things were getting too rough back at the Caucasus.

>>2546087
So they got cucked by the Hattics who got cucked by the Hittites?

>>2546091
Hittites didn't alter their genepool very much. They just brought a different language. What happened during the Copper Age was a fucking full-scale genocide.

>>2546092
What the fuck... I wonder how it went down

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>>2538883
>not putting the highest percentages on the top

why tho?

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>>2546092

Not really. Turks still have high haplotype sharing with ENF(but low state similarity because of mixing with CHG, Turco-Mongols etc).

Anatolian women always spread their legs to the new invaders so there's still some genetic continuity there.

>>2546102
I see Turks clustering right next to Near Easterners right there, not anywhere Sardinians. What's your point? Sardinians are the closest people to the early farmers from Anatolia.

>>2546115

It's not a genetic map. There's no clustering.
It's about overall genetic similarity vs. shared haplotypes which signify relatedness.

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>>2546122
Clustering with them in the sense that they share roughly the same amount of ENF ancestry with Near Easterners, i.e not much.

>>2546140

Nope. They have East Asian admixture from their Turco-Mongol ancestors and without it their IBS(and haplotype sharing to a much lesser extent) would be higher.

Trying to argue that CHG replaced ANF completely is absurd since Copper age clusters halfway between CHG and ANF.
Anatolian women spread their legs to invaders.

>>2546162
Well, it still clusters pretty far away from the original farmers. There was still a genocide.