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Recommend books in which the narrator acknowledges the existence of the reader.
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>>9098268
book of the new sun
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Niebla, Unamuno, book is fascinating. So is the author.
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>>9098268
If on a winter's night a traveller... is this to the most extreme level

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Would this fly today?
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In the current year? No. The Left would just call Kurtz 'Hitler'. Hell, the Right would probably call him that too
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No, books are heavier than air
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No. At the time, its intentions were good and noble. But there was lots of noble savage stuff in there, and Conrad bought into the false idea of racial differences that was accepted at the time.

A similar novel could work, but it would have to approach the subject of colonialism in a different way

What are some classic pulp reads that stand on their own merits?

What are some classic pulp reads that are just good old fun?

What books would you consider the modern equivalent of pulp novels? are they any good?
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>>9098048
Lovecraft
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>>9098048
Maltese Falcon and Clockwork Orange were both considered pulp in their day. There's some serious merit behind both.
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>>9098048

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Is reading /lit/'s starter book list good to start enlightening myself? I haven't done daily reading in a long time and would like to go back to that better time. How about /lit/'s top 100?
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For comprehensiveness use Bloom's western canon list or something like that.

I'd say just read what you like. If a book's synopsis doesn't sound interesting to you, then why read it.
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>>9097828
I don't know what you mean by enlightening. Most of those books are assigned to high schoolers; you're not going to gain thirty IQ points and become at peace with the world because you read The Catcher in the Rye. You should read whatever you think you'll enjoy
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Anyone else have trouble reading for a period of time?
I feel like I have 'readers block'; like writers block, but I'll find that I either struggle to read more than 1 or 2 pages at a time, or I will reread the same paragraph several times before giving up. This started in 2015 and persisted until now. I'm trying to get back into reading with Ubik at the moment, about halfway through which makes me happy.
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>>9097804
I think the analogy to writer's block is a good one, yes, I've had this experience. I think you have to power through and settle for suboptimal comprehension, until you're back in the swing of absorbing what you read.
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I read a few pages and then shitpost on /lit/ for at least 20 minutes.
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>>9097804

>starting back with Vonnegut

you are doing it wrong

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How many books do you own /lit/ ?

The fact that most people have under 30 books is quite scary i'd say but it does explain a lot.

I'll start, i would say i have 3 shelves of around 200 books, so about 600.
Although i only keep books i actually like and give away the others.

So tell me your numbers, every book counts (even garbage like J.K. Rowling)
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>>9097628
I have no idea, but I have 3 bookshelves of varying sizes and don't have enough room for them.
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Around 7200. I have started throwing or giving books away If I know I'll never read them again.
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well over 1,000. running out of space :(

I'm so busy with college that I barely have time to read. How do you guys get to read as much as you want?
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>>9097510
Read during breaks, on public transport, whatever.

Dumb faggot
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>>9097510
Here's your answer OP.
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S7990408#p7990533
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>>9097510 (OP)
joke: I'm so busy with college that I barely have time to read.
woke: I'm so busy with reading that I barely have time to college

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Who was in the right?
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Neither, really. The humanity of the indigenous was not instrumental in the story of Heart of Darkness. All that was important was that they appear foreign, terrifying and bestial to Marlow and co., as they would to any british expansionists
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To discover who was in the right
You need ask only Which was white?
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>>9097455
Poetry. Nice Dubs

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Read the sticky. How many books do people normally read and how fast? Like I'm reading Vanity Fair on my Kindle at about 10% a day and I feel like I am wasting too much of my existence on being an inferior pleb due to my lack of literary knowledge. I got loads of charts though I would never be able to get through them in a lifetime so how do people on here seem to do that?

Furthermore, how do you enjoy books? It literally feels like I'm just looking at words and nothing happens, especially with prose (I did not enjoy Blood Meridian and The Road at all), everyone here though seems to care loads about the little details and interconnecting stories/themes of novels which, whilst I do understand, seem more enjoyable in picture, what am I missing? Catch-22 was the only book I've really enjoyed thus far and I'm going to get Hyperion (because apparently Nagato gave it to Kyon) and Gravity's Rainbow (because I like the Klaxons), how would I go about maximizing the pleasure from reading the books? I currently scan my eyes across each line and then diagonally downwards in two movements (as that's supposed to help) though I find it really exhausting to do that without wanting to skip several pages until stuff happens.

Also what is with philosophy? I've been reading the First Alcibiades among Plato's other works and it is just people talking to each-other on punishment with no real sense of direction, is there some theme to these dialogues on morality? Is there some colossal revelation to be held?

Anyway, sorry for the tangent, though I really don't get literature, and feel guilty because of such.
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>>9097185
>Also what is with philosophy?
>Is there some colossal revelation to be held?

Nah, take the redpill instead and drop the whole 'reading' thing
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Has contemporary society failed us?
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Not very good bait, nice try though desu.

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Hello /lit/ my female friend is working on her bachelor thesis. She's writing about influence and presence of Catholic religion in Mexicos media / pop culture (especially in soap opera's but everything around this topic would work) do you have maybe by any chance links to some e-books, or book titles, articles that regard this topic ? (If they would be in spanish that would be even better !)
Best regards,
Dynio
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>>9096879
Nice to have you hear, Dynio.

Happy to see so many different cultures on /lit/. We are a melting pot of cultures, beliefs, and creeds.

Hope we can stay close friends. Say hello to your female friend for me. Tell her to join us. We would be well served with more women here.

Cheers
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mexican here
there is none
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>>9096879
nudes

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Is Infinite Jest a entertaining book?
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If /r/me_irl entertains you, yes.
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It is the ultimate entertainment
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>>9096680
Yeah I'd say so

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Am I missing something? I know you shouldn't spend time reading something you aren't enjoying but I've read longer and more difficult books than this, but 400 pages in and I just can't get in to it.

I'm aware that just because it's a classic doesn't mean I have to like it, but considering how much I like many other established classics I'm surprised I'm not enjoying this one. I've got as far as the duel and that was quite a captivating moment, but beyond that I've been struggling.

Is it a slow burn that gets better or is this book simply not for me?

Thanks.
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Just stop reading it.
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It's definitely a slog but try out Tolstoy's other work, preferably his novellas and essays as opposed to his lengthy novels.

I recommend The Death of Ivan Ilyich and Hadji Murad
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>>9096562
I think people are making a mistake by starting with War & Peace. I approached Tolstoy by reading a few of his short stories, and a shorter novel (The Cossacks) before tackling this book.

There is also the matter of finding a translation that you like.

For me, War and Peace was an approachable read. The chapters are fairly short, and there is plenty of memorable moments Andrey at Austerlitz, Rostov's first charge, Pierre's duel with Dolokhov, Pierre meeting the freemason as a coach station, Tushin's artillery, The Rostovs cozy scene at uncles house, Pierre walking into the middle of Borodino, any chapter with Denisov

The last epilogue is a bit much though, too much philosophising.

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I'm going to start this book. It will be the first book I've read in nine years.

Is there a recommended translation? I will read it in English. Also, anyone who has read it, does it rank among one of your favorite books?
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>>9096195
>Is there a recommended translation?
I read the Magarshack translation and thought it was fine.
>does it rank among one of your favorite books?
Absolutely.
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>>9096195
>Also, anyone who has read it, does it rank among one of your favorite books?

I put off reading Anna Karenina for a long time because I was reluctant to read a book about a woman.
I'm glad I finally did read it though. The parts with Levin working on his farm mowing grain or hunting snipe in the marsh with his dog were so damn comfy.
Plus Vronsky was alpha as fuck, fucking married women, racing horses and finally going off to Serbia to remove kebab or die trying
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>>9096741
Nice pasta bro

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I'd genuinely like to get into analytic philosophy but its whole approach seems fucking retarded to me. Anyone familiar with the history of philosophy should be aware of the historical and social situatedness that influence philosophical inquiry, yet analytics seem to live in the illusion that philosophical positions can be neutrally examined and judged by the standards of formal logic. Similarly, they redefine the field of philosophy to suit their own interests, leading to the bizzare proclamations that Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, Heidegger and other "continental" giants aren't actually doing philosophy since they're not commited to analysing concepts in a way reconcilable with anglo thought. This leads to even more radical specialization of academia, since if your interests lie in wide-ranging intellectual developments you can't be an analytic philosopher. Of course, interpretations of Aristotle have been accepted as valid analytic philosophy even though his thought is hardly compatible with their approach, while any thinker that stinks of Hegelianism is just writing poetry or something.

So, the main point of analytic philosophy appears to be rigorous defining of various positions that arise on a
philosophical question - usually revolving around language, with anything going beyond those limits dismissed as nonsense.
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>>9095122
>muh identity thinking, empty husks, and tautologies

Get a life, idiot
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Well you're right, OP, and the childhood and life of analytic philosophers would be a wonderful field for psychoanalytic research. Why do these guys hate anything that has a meaning ? Hell, I even wonder if they're able to enjoy a nice diner at some restaurant.

There's been several books with that kind of approach : philosophers and their mother, the sexual life of philosophers, critique of gastronomic reason, etc. But it's always been focused on "classic" authors, whereas it could be useful too to understand the reasons of the analytic dead-end in modern philosophy.
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analytic philosophy, much like libertarianism, is essentially just a consequence of autism

if you're a neurotypical, I'm afraid this path is blocked for you

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>Private Investigator

What are the best fiction books about realistic PI's??

>Sherlock Holmes

No
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Poirot
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Lehane, Denis
series about Kenzie and Gennaro
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>>9094995
Dashiell Hammett worked at Pinkerton detective agency, so I'd recommend his stuff. Especially Red Harvest and The Thin Man.

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