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>>47996054
You could take a page from Resurrection Man. He dies, gets a new power related to how he died, and it y time. So he can either get completely useless garbage or insanely strong stuff

>>47996117
>and it y time
Wow, that should say "it changes every time"

Fuck

>>47996054
Wear a street cone as your pointy hat, and a bathrobe as your mage robe.
Use a tablet as your grimoire and a e-cig as your hand.

>The only thing I can really think of is nature/survival skills that a ranger/druid could bring....
Fighters are assumed to have basic wilderness skills.
For that matter, adventures are assumed to have basic adventuring skills.


Speaking of which, Thief wasn't part of the D&D whitebox, it was originally from a supplement.
Everyone was assumed to know how to climb walls, hide, detect and disarm traps, and the like.
You either made an ability check (for most of that crap) or roleplayed it (for traps and the like).

Even thieves were supposed to behave that way. Thief abilities were more like insurance.
Miss the DM's cue and spring a trap? Roll for detect trap to see if you notice it before springing it.

They were also literally supernatural abilities.
Being able to climb slick, perfectly even walls slanted towards you without using tools.
Being able to completely hide from scrutinous searches in small patches of kind-of dim ligthing.
And so on.

>>47995940
https://youtu.be/PKg2ZzPKl2M?t=11s

Cool, why are they so mundane now though?

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>>47996012

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"You two! Breed for us..."

>>47995594
Call him a weri/d/o and bash him in the head with a mace.

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Is he the DMPC? Then roll for obligatory rape
Otherwise? Remove Bug

>>47995309
They're the basic, dumb approach for newbies who don't know how to play. They don't get cool options because options are confusing and WotC assumes that new players are essentially braindead.

According to some math I saw around release, Champions are reasonably decent in terms of expected DPR, so they don't suck THAT bad.

>>47995309
Champions are for when you run a game for your 11 year old son/daughter.

>>47995309
And? You have two options you like better why do you want everything catered to you?

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com·fort·a·ble
ˈkəmfərdəb(ə)l,ˈkəmftərbəl/
adjective
1.(especially of clothes or furnishings) providing physical ease and relaxation.
"invitingly comfortable beds"
synonyms: cozy, snug, warm, pleasant, agreeable; More
2.as large as is needed or wanted.
"a comfortable income"

Proper environmental regulation and padded seats.

>>47995299
I hate that cross section compared to the original.

It's smaller, the angle is worse, and it's just ugly.

The whole TFA cross section was absolutely awful aside from like... three ships.

Yeah. Played a game at Birmingham university next to a guy in a huge coat. He smelled really bad, and when I asked my friend who'd been playing with him for years his reply surprised me. It was either that he didn't notice, or something like role players and hygiene don't go together. Either way it was depressing and I never went back to play , in part, for that reason. Standards only ever rise to the bare, bare minimum we ever set.

Yep, it's normally the really fat guys.

They're too fat to wipe their arses clean, so walk around with a shitty crack, they're also fat so they sweat a lot. The shitty sweat seeps into their underwear and onto their jeans.

They wash these jeans once every two weeks.

fucking NASTY

Just dock them 50-100 XP for each time they show up and you can smell them.

D&D 3.5 is the best system for melee combat.

>>47994636
>No matter how many divine boons the Paladin gets, a Barbarian will always outmatch him in melee scenarios.jpg

>>47994636
Runequest 6. It's the best. Very intuitive once you get the hang of it and can offer interesting options in combat, which isn't always to the death but can be very quickly over.

>>47994518
I have a beguiler who just got access to evocation because of plot and I also became a red wizard, so I am wondering just how this works.

Should I just pick a specialization (evocation because of plot) now, sacrifice a school and be done with it or does it become complicated since I dont have a specialization to enhance to begin with?

>>47994518
>In 3.5
I don't understand.

>>47994801
DnD 3.5 ed

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>>47994374
Would you like to Interface with my congitator?

WITNESS YOUR GROOOOM

>>47993863
Nobody knows. That's why they're lvl 20.

>>47993891
/thread

>>47993863
13th age has the Prince of Shadows. In lore no one knows anything about them, what race, male or female, or if it's even a person instead of an organization or just some fucked up spirit that manipulates things.

Anywhere from chaotic good to chaotic evil because no one actually knows what the goal is or if there even is one other than screwing up the plans of the most powerful beings in the setting and occasionally leaving notes to screw with them.

So basically they're someone who no one knows about that does things that no one can figure out. Because reasons, maybe there's reasons.

As a dashing (gentleman).

I dick ass

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Arcane trickster style

>>47992324
>playing against couples

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I once spilled water on someone's copy of twilight struggle. Nobody told me I was human trash but I still wake up in cold sweats from the incident. Never went back to that board game club.

Worst RPG moment I think was when I tried a new system and not one of 4? 5? 6? players read the fucking rulebook pdf I sent in advance with PLEASE FUCKING READ THE RULES in the mail. Been bitter since.

I had my time wasted. I played 5-hour long Pathfinder sessions and nothing got done anyway.

>is it literally just America that pushes this image?
Maybe.
>Is this true even in America?
That's at least 2/3rds of the player-base here.

>>47992230

>murrica

I'd say no, though those types are overrepresented in the hobby compared to the general population. I've know maybe 2 people that fit all three of those.

I will say that most of them are socially maladjusted /somehow/. I'm an introvert and socially awkward at times, another guy I knew had a pretty severe temper, another was lazy as fuck as never took care of himself or washed his clothes, a few were overweight, a few just had those senses of humor that never evolved past the age of 11. Every one of these people had more things good than bad about them, but the things wrong with them you didn't see much outside the FLGS (I assume since those types usually stay inside like me)

>>47992230
In all /tg/ surveys that have been done, our median build is skinny scraggly vaguely-metalhead.

Man that is a really cool mask, I want that mask

>>47992218
I don't, he can join if he wants to add it, but I'm not doing it.

We know that we're unable to do that, so we make it a farce instead.

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This is also where Stormwind Fallacy most likely reared its head because in a game that emphasizes freeforming and making narrative decisions to overcome in-game obstacles, rolling skills or dice was meant to be a risky but straightforward affair. If you failed, you failed hard, but if you succeeded, you'd just succeed without much description. Considering how TSR began releasing more and more broken content as they attempted to stay alive via shotgunning books out again and again it's easy to see how a generation of players could see these increasingly bonkers rules that give them 50-70% success on a skill and, rather than stopping to describe their search for the secret passageway as DM's were accustomed to: they'd just roll dice and be done with it. Hence: "Roll Player". Now whether or not the act of spending 5 minutes discussing whether or not this room has a secret passageway is fun and interesting for all players is a different tale but lets not get into that now.

Instead lets get into how D&D has changed. Because 3.X changed D&D in some major ways and probably the most major way was: rolling. Again in older D&D's rolling was a risky affair and only one class had 'skills' and they were mostly for dungeoneering. But now 3.X is here and... suddenly there's a lot more rolling now. You roll diplomacy to convince people of your argument. You roll bluff to fool people. You roll spot to notice traps. You roll search to find hidden passageways. The only classes in the game that DON'T rely on rolling is spellcasters and... it shows. And it's particularly aggrivating in 3.X because before where you may have only been rolling 2 or 3 times a session, the flat probability curve and low bonuses felt like you were really pressing your luck. But in 3.X with the game expecting you to be rolling much more consistently the flat probability curve and low bonuses just feel... annoying. Like you're not being the hero you designed yourself to be.

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But again in older editions: everyone had roughly equivolent "skills". Or at least, abilities they could use to interact with people and things. Since it all relied on freeforming until someone messed up or did something really risky it somewhat helped in making fighters and rogues feeling like they had more to contribute.

Then we get to 4th edition and now rolling is more prioritized than ever! With it practically being a combat-focused minature skirmish game. Although at the very least it can be argued it did that well. And (again arguably) the emphasis on combat and lack of overt utility features and spotty skill-challenge system seemed to open up for more old school style "freeform until something happens then just roll" style of play.

And I haven't played 5e so I can't comment on that. But what I can comment on is simply this: if you want to play an Old School D&D game? Like a REALLY OLD SCHOOL D&D GAME? Simple: just don't roll! Kill that little niggling part of your brain that wants to see how this event progresses. Just... freeform really! And if a player does something that is undenyably risky? Then roll, and emphasize the chancey nature of it all. Restraint in the mechanics and when you implement them is the most important factor that goes into old school D&D.

And if you find yourself or your players getting bored or annoyed at this style of play? Well hey, it's not for everyone. And it shouldn't BE for everyone.

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