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To be honest the more I learn about biology the more I understand why people think someone designed it. Obviously no one did but this stuff insane.
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>>8424481

I think it's the other way around. The more you look at biology the more it becomes obvious why human designs look the way they do. The similarity is there, but human artifice came after biology so it's it which is similar to biology rather than biology being similar to it.
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>>8424481

nice opinion but soon you'll realize living organisms are messy, god would have not allowed this level of disorder
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>>8424503
>level of disorder

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https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/19/tesla-brings-self-driving-hardware-to-its-entire-fleet/

"Eight surround cameras provide 360 degree visibility around the car at up to 250 meters of range. Twelve updated ultrasonic sensors complement this vision, allowing for detection of both hard and soft objects at nearly twice the distance of the prior system. A forward-facing radar with enhanced processing provides additional data about the world on a redundant wavelength, capable of seeing through heavy rain, fog, dust and even the car ahead."

CEO Elon Musk said that the new hardware brings level 5 autonomy. "The foundation is onboard to bring full autonomy," he said during a call with press. That means the vehicles will drive all by itself without any input from the driver a huge improvement from Autopilot which requires the driver pay attention and be able to take control.

Nvidia hardware will be inside each car and is 40x more powerful than current Tesla processing power.
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>Nvidia hardware will be inside each car and is 40x more powerful than current Tesla processing power.

If this doesn't tell you that it's bullshit instantly then nothing will convince you.
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>>8424070
Are you familiar with the huge investment nvidia made into specialized hardware for Deep Neural networks?

It's actually true due to the fact Nvidia is producing hardware that is domain specific to AI-driven cars.
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>>8424070
previous tesla hardware is a linux tablet

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Can scientists be trusted on issues such as global warming, or are they shills made to say a specific answer.

No, this is not a troll post. Many people say many different things.
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>>8421562
Koch brothers have a loooooooooooooooot of money. Second wealthiest company in the world if I remember right. If scientists were bribed then the science would say oil cures cancer.
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>>8421562
There are some issues science can be trusted on and some they cannot. Climate is one they can be counted on. Areas like psychology and social anthropology, no they just p-hack their way to the conclusions they want to arrive at.
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>trusting anyone

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I was curious if I could please learn about /sci/'s opinions regarding: psychiatry, psychology, and/or other mental health care -related fields? I ask, because; I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist with “Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder” back in July of 2013. A psychologist diagnosed me with the following three disorders: “Major Depressive Disorder” — “Generalized Anxiety Disorder” and “Social Anxiety Disorder” back in July of 2016 (after administering the “Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory - 2” alongside several other diagnostic classification, rating scales, checklists, inventories, and surveys.) However, I can't help but notice that most people don't consider these to be real “illnesses”. In fact, even I'm not sure that I believe these to be real illnesses.

Nobody in my family (or anybody else around me, for that matter) seems to care about me having been diagnosed with these disorders. A cousin of mine simply scoffed at the idea of me being diagnosed with ADHD, making a dismissive hand gesture at me and proclaiming, “everybody has ADHD!” My mother tells me, “oh, you have depression? Then why don't you simply stop being depressed? Will yourself out of your depression!” Other people have told me that social anxiety isn't a “real problem”.

I've noticed that even among all of my doctors there's disagreements about what is or isn't “science”. What is or isn't “pseudoscience”. I'll have my psychiatrist telling me, “for testing for personality disorders there's the 'MMPI-2' which isn't very scientific.” I'll have my psychologist telling me, “the psychiatrists of today are like the alchemists of the Middle Ages. The alchemists believed that they could create gold from lead, which we now know is impossible. Psychiatrists believe in 'chemical imbalances'. There is no such thing as 'chemical imbalances'.”

So what do you guys think?
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>>8413161
this board is for science and mathematics m8
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>>8413161
You have autism. Not even kidding.
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>>8413163

Very well.

Let's get a bit more scientific, shall we?

Let's take Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

There's this one study that apparently suggests that they have provided the first "empirical evidence" for Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23777939

To quote it:

>Background:

>Despite the relevance of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) in clinical settings, there is currently no empirical data available regarding the neurobiological correlates of NPD. In the present study, we performed a voxel-based morphometric analysis to provide initial insight into local abnormalities of gray matter (GM) volume.

>Methods

>Structural brain images were obtained from patients with NPD (n = 17) and a sample of healthy controls (n = 17) matched regarding age, gender, handedness, and intelligence. Groups were compared with regard to global brain tissue volumes and local abnormalities of GM volume. Regions-of-interest analyses were calculated for the anterior insula.

>Results

>Relative to the control group, NPD patients had smaller GM volume in the left anterior insula. Independent of group, GM volume in the left anterior insula was positively related to self-reported emotional empathy. Complementary whole-brain analyses yielded smaller GM volume in fronto-paralimbic brain regions comprising the rostral and median cingulate cortex as well as dorsolateral and medial parts of the prefrontal cortex.

>Conclusion

>Here we provide the first empirical evidence for structural abnormalities in fronto-paralimbic brain regions of patients with NPD. The results are discussed in the context of NPD patients' restricted ability for emotional empathy.

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Anyone else pretty convinced of this lately? I know I'm late to the party but it finally clicked in terms of Nick Bostrom or Elon Musk's reasoning behind it.

It seems we are either on the verge of destruction or in a simulation.

Is there any plausible strategy for escaping the simulation or determining if it really is one? Seems impossible.
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>>8421378
Roko's basillisk
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>>8421381
That thing seems so faulty in a multitude of ways.

I would go into it but anyone who reads it should immediately intuitively understand it's a retarded idea. Especially because the premise is based on determinism.
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>>8421392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzVRKrJik3U

Maybe universe is entirely deterministic.

Honest question if any of y'all can answer; should I get my baby circumcised? My wife is supposed to deliver in a few days and we already know it's a boy, but I'm unsure about what advantages and disadvantages it could bring for him. I've also done a bit of research and learned that most countries outside the States don't even practice it all that much. What are the benefits and negatives to it?
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>>8417112

Just do it you pussy!
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>>8417112
There are no meaningful benefits. Break the cycle and allow your son the bodily integrity to make his own decisions. It's not your body to decide for.
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>>8417112
Not many benefits to removing it. But not really any benefits by having it either. Personally I say let it be, because don't mess with ain't broke.

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UK Nuffield Council on Bioethics Report on Genome editing: http://nuffieldbioethics.org/wp-content/uploads/Genome-editing-an-ethical-review.pdf

It's utter garbage. How do these people have jobs or employment? They are utterly fucking useless as compared to adding actual science funding. These quotes are all from "bioethics" experts and are shit, low IQ, gibberish, and braindead. They also want to stop scientific advancement.

"The factors that act to attract, secure and consolidate investment may also have the effect of confirming a course for innovation, creating both ‘lock in’ of contingent technological forms and forward momentum along a particular technological pathway."

"In this way, the concept of editing has a certain thickness, whereby, while apparently descriptive, it implies a tacit evaluative judgement."

"No matter which way one looks, the frontiers of technology are seen to be at one and the same time, frontiers of politics."

"Disability justice and rights scholars have made a range of moral arguments against selective technologies, from individual rights based arguments such as the right to life of people with disabilities, to arguments for the social and emotional value (e.g. vulnerability to contingency) of biological difference, to the value to humankind of conserving disability cultures, and the importance of the visibility of disability in establishing social attitudes, behaviour, and structures."

"they consider it to be essential to put in place means for tracking social justice outcomes over time, and social justice goals in regulation of genome editing technologies.”
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>>8423231
In human speak and not low IQ ape that buzzwords to seem smart:

>The factors that act to attract, secure and consolidate investment may also have the effect of confirming a course for innovation, creating both ‘lock in’ of contingent technological forms and forward momentum along a particular technological pathway.

The things that bring in investment focus on one pathway of innovation.

>No matter which way one looks, the frontiers of technology are seen to be at one and the same time, frontiers of politics.

Technology should be politicized.

>"they consider it to be essential to put in place means for tracking social justice outcomes over time, and social justice goals in regulation of genome editing technologies"

We want to arbitrarily control technology based on our personal liberal feelings.
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not like it matters

if they don't do it the chinks definitely will
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>>8423251
They already are.

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Is there any credible evidence to support a genetic basis to homosexuality? Surely, to oversimplify, the faggo gene would have wiped itself out from the gene pool if this was the case.
Bonus points for academic articles for or against the genetic argument.
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I sincerely doubt researchers are gathering groups of homosexuals and analyzing their genes and producing definitive evidence that this shit exists.

I am about 100% sure that all studies that say otherwise are probably funded by researchers / clinics with a left wing agenda
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>ppl still believing in the gay gene
>a fucking gay gene
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>>8413570
if youve ever watched porn with a penis in it, masturbated and ejaculated, youre as "gay" as you are "straight"

in b4

>dont look at the dick
repressed faggotry
>i like to learn how to fuck
by watching dicks, ok
>i get off by imagining im the guy
staring at his dick while jerking it, totally straight

heterosexuality, homosexuality are memes. everyone bisexual hehe

>fucked 12 girls and 3 guys

i think about dicks while fucking pussy and think about pussy while im sucking dick

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Why do people say CS is a meme? I was just reading about how retards say programming is trivial and easy. Could they even do a lower div programming assignment from my uni?
http://www.ics.uci.edu/~thornton/ics46/ProjectGuide/Project2/

That is the project guideline for the second project of a lower div class I took in spring. Its programming an AI in c++

I'd say the only people who are smarter than CS are math majors. I have never met a chem, physics, or bio major that could do what CS can. While CS can do all of their coursework and more.
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And to add, before the people who say "hurr durr programming is just a subset of CS, real schools teach theory" take a look at the website more and notice how we learned tons of theory, not just programming.
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>I'd say the only people who are smarter than CS are math majors.

The only thing that people dont call a meme on here is math. So, get over it.
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>>8419591
>tfw 300k starting

Hey /sci/, look what happens when a person of high IQ is born around literal savages


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EBlfnCSw70
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>>8416670
>iq thread

saged and hidden
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Le bump
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Very interesting

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What does /sci/ think about Medicine?
>Inb4 it's a trade
>Inb4 it's just applied Biology
>Inb4 It's just hard because they crank up the shit you need to memorise

Feels like it's the true academia field.
>Ph.D. Equivalent
>Crazy funding for research
>If you suck at research, can still do the shit you learn in the private sector, aka, practice medicine as a surgeon or a general practitioner.

Why do people diss med students like me so hard? Is it because they're jealous of the opportunities medical students get after graduation?
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Ned student eh.... what year?
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>>8415756
Year 3, clinical studies. Year 1 and 2 was hell.
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>>8415743
no its because medical students are usually full of themselves and form cliches where they talk about medicine all the time and they become really irritating to be arond.... atleast where im from.

>tfw Feel like it's the true academic field.

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The last thing we developed was blue eyes and lactose tolerance. But shouldn't new adaptations have emerged by now?
I think i've read somewhere that we're getting adapted to the increased sugar intake due to our Western diet, but I can't find any studies on it, so that might just be a hearsay.
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When did ASPM and DAB1 gene come about?

ASPM seemed to bring about written language and modern civilization in the west.
I don't know but would guess that the DAB1 in the east had similar consequences.
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>>8415569
Evolution kind of requires the pressure of natural selection. We've adapted to most pressures with our memes instead of adapting with our genetic material. In a way memes are an extension of ourselves and they've adapted far faster than physical evolution would allow. I'm sure our physical ability to use memes has been selectively bred to be strengthened over time.
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>>8415569
We should just get over the ethics thing and start making designer babies. Evolution just works to slow for a species that only breeds ever 25 years, and there isn't enough external pressure anyway.
Designer babies are far more ethical than eugenics. And I'm not just talking about erasing genetic disorders, that's just the start.

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California Environmentalists and liberals just took a shit on renewables in order to "Save the desert".

http://www.desertsun.com/story/tech/science/energy/2016/07/29/why-utilities-and-environmentalists-teaming-up-against-solar-industry/87677852/

Environmentalists don't always see eye to eye with Southern California Edison and Pacific Gas & Electric, California's two largest utilities. But some of the state's most influential environmental groups have joined forces with the utilities to support a massive conservation and clean energy plan, in the face of opposition from the solar and wind industries.

Energy-industry critics say the plan would leave far too little space for solar and wind projects, while doing nothing to speed up development. But many conservationists disagree, and so do the utilities.
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>based high IQ liberals that love science and progress
>if only dumbfuck rednecks could be as smart as Californians

The Desert Renewable Energy Conservation Plan would set aside 5.3 million acres for conservation and 3.8 million acres for recreation, compared to just 388,000 acres for renewable energy projects. Solar developers say that's not nearly enough land to build the projects California will need to meet its 50 percent clean energy mandate, let alone to push for 100 percent clean energy over time. While no one expects all 388,000 acres to be developed, companies say they need more flexibility as the search for the best places to build solar farms.
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The party saving us from global warming

Shut down all their nuclear power plants and just teamed up with traditional utilities to stifle solar and wind.

/sci/ tell me more about which political party is more pro science.
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>>8419633
>t. Republicunt
Please

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How do I make fuckable aliens without making them human girls with green skin? I want to make this biologically realistic.

I was leaning on uber flexable aliens with basic human bodyshape and maybe some facial features.

Pic Semi related, fuckable but doesn't make sense evolutionarily
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>>8418325
You went wrong with four limbs, not to mention the hair... Aliens would have a completely different lineage from us, therefore it's unlikely that they had even remotely similar body structure to ours.
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One word. Tentacles
might wanna consult with /d/ on this
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>>8418336
>Aliens would have a completely different lineage from us, therefore it's unlikely that they had even remotely similar body structure to ours.

The lineage is not always important:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_examples_of_convergent_evolution

The environment is actually more important.

Westworld, the latest original show from HBO, is a stark propaganda piece to promote things called "Ethics". It's utter bullshit and entirely unrealistic but in luddites and normies it will brainwash them that things like sex robots should be illegal.

Is anyone else pissed at how Media tries to impose bullshit ethics by creating shows like this? Now realistic games like westworld or rape simulators with AI victims will be harder for companies to fund.

This anti-transhumanist propaganda needs to end.
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I'll just give an example

>stupid scripted actors that are not human
>media portrays them as randomly gaining consciousness

If this is the case we should ban all NPCs from video games. This is just ridiculous and only going to harm entertainment. A complete propaganda piece that is not based in anything real but will be cited as "hurr we need ethical control over AI and especially in realistic video games."
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Maybe learn to make your own fun or read a book if you don't like propaganda in your bread and circuses.

Fuggin bleb.
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>>8417606
Gee OP, you really convinced me with those hot opinions

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